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Political Roundtable Part XXXII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1921 » by AFM » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:20 pm

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AFM wrote:Yall have neantherdal DNA because Americans were banging monkeys or whatever. I have divinely inspired Persian DNA from the Zoroastrian sun god. Floated down on my magic carpet from agartha. We are not the same


SCIENCE!

An open question in the history of human migration is the identity of the earliest Eurasian populations that have left contemporary descendants. The Arabian Peninsula was the initial site of the out-of-Africa migrations that occurred between 125,000 and 60,000 yr ago, leading to the hypothesis that the first Eurasian populations were established on the Peninsula and that contemporary indigenous Arabs are direct descendants of these ancient peoples. To assess this hypothesis, we sequenced the entire genomes of 104 unrelated natives of the Arabian Peninsula at high coverage, including 56 of indigenous Arab ancestry. The indigenous Arab genomes defined a cluster distinct from other ancestral groups, and these genomes showed clear hallmarks of an ancient out-of-Africa bottleneck. Similar to other Middle Eastern populations, the indigenous Arabs had higher levels of Neanderthal admixture compared to Africans


These are arabs, do you understand what you just did right now? I will give you 10 seconds to edit this post.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1922 » by closg00 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:23 pm

dobrojim wrote:Supreme Corruption. It *is* the worst decision since Dred Scott, or ever (?). It's hard to decide.
Maybe Biden needs to take advantage and do some official acts to save what's left of the country.

I was weighing if it was worse than Dredd Scott too, in the hands of Donald Trump, we’re under a de facto Dictatorship.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1923 » by dobrojim » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:28 pm

SCOTUS has forsaken any pretense of judicial impartiality, ethics, respect for
heritage...
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

Those who are convinced of absurdities, can be convinced to commit atrocities
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1924 » by doclinkin » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:10 pm

AFM wrote:
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AFM wrote:Yall have neantherdal DNA because Americans were banging monkeys or whatever. I have divinely inspired Persian DNA from the Zoroastrian sun god. Floated down on my magic carpet from agartha. We are not the same


SCIENCE!

An open question in the history of human migration is the identity of the earliest Eurasian populations that have left contemporary descendants. The Arabian Peninsula was the initial site of the out-of-Africa migrations that occurred between 125,000 and 60,000 yr ago, leading to the hypothesis that the first Eurasian populations were established on the Peninsula and that contemporary indigenous Arabs are direct descendants of these ancient peoples. To assess this hypothesis, we sequenced the entire genomes of 104 unrelated natives of the Arabian Peninsula at high coverage, including 56 of indigenous Arab ancestry. The indigenous Arab genomes defined a cluster distinct from other ancestral groups, and these genomes showed clear hallmarks of an ancient out-of-Africa bottleneck. Similar to other Middle Eastern populations, the indigenous Arabs had higher levels of Neanderthal admixture compared to Africans


These are arabs, do you understand what you just did right now? I will give you 10 seconds to edit this post.


Not science! Arabs and Persians freely interbreed with fertile offspring, the definition of a species. Those sharing this subcontinent are genetically nearly identical. The differences are solely cultural in the mishmash of fairy tales they tell about their ancestry and origin. Neanderthal remains have been found in the mountains of Northern Iran. https://www.shh.mpg.de/2263040/iran_dispersal Also, have you seen how hairy y'all can get? Compared to the absence of body hair in the rest of Africa. Clearly somebody up there was monkeying around :clown:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1925 » by AFM » Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:10 pm

doclinkin wrote:
AFM wrote:
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SCIENCE!



These are arabs, do you understand what you just did right now? I will give you 10 seconds to edit this post.


Not science! Arabs and Persians freely interbreed with fertile offspring, the definition of a species. Those sharing this subcontinent are genetically nearly identical. The differences are solely cultural in the mishmash of fairy tales they tell about their ancestry and origin. Neanderthal remains have been found in the mountains of Northern Iran. https://www.shh.mpg.de/2263040/iran_dispersal Also, have you seen how hairy y'all can get? Compared to the absence of body hair in the rest of Africa. Clearly somebody up there was monkeying around :clown:


This is the craziest thing I've read on this board including WizD's analysis of Seraphin's tree trunk thigh mobility hyperextension of peace and prosperity. Want to measure my skull with calipers next you racist freak?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1926 » by doclinkin » Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:34 pm

AFM wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
AFM wrote:
These are arabs, do you understand what you just did right now? I will give you 10 seconds to edit this post.


Not science! Arabs and Persians freely interbreed with fertile offspring, the definition of a species. Those sharing this subcontinent are genetically nearly identical. The differences are solely cultural in the mishmash of fairy tales they tell about their ancestry and origin. Neanderthal remains have been found in the mountains of Northern Iran. https://www.shh.mpg.de/2263040/iran_dispersal Also, have you seen how hairy y'all can get? Compared to the absence of body hair in the rest of Africa. Clearly somebody up there was monkeying around :clown:


This is the craziest thing I've read on this board including WizD's analysis of Seraphin's tree trunk thigh mobility hyperextension of peace and prosperity. Want to measure my skull with calipers next you racist freak?


YES! Bring me calipers!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1927 » by montestewart » Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:50 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1928 » by AFM » Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:54 pm

my 23andMe says I'm from Atlantis you are probably from Atlanta.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1929 » by doclinkin » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:44 pm

AFM wrote:my 23andMe says I'm from Atlantis you are probably from Atlanta.


Nope: Hyperborea or Hyperlogorrhea.

(EDIT: I do have .2% North African. Morocco or thereabouts. Probably via Spain. And 9% Ashkenazi Jewish. But its from my dad's side so according to the Jews it doesn't count).
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1930 » by montestewart » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:54 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1931 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:41 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1932 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:49 am

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This is stupid. Yes, the government can murder people. Duh. Obama was one of the worst offenders. Don't act all shocked.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1933 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:10 am

AFM wrote:my 23andMe says I'm from Atlantis you are probably from Atlanta.


That's the spirit!

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1934 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:02 pm

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This is stupid. Yes, the government can murder people. Duh. Obama was one of the worst offenders. Don't act all shocked.


This is a false equivalence, especially bringing up Obama. There’s due process under the law operating in the U.S. unless you believe it’s normal that Trump could have you shot for protesting him.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1935 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:02 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1936 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:04 pm

Yeah you guys aren’t sufficiently worried enough

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1937 » by closg00 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:17 pm

Pointgod wrote:Yeah you guys aren’t sufficiently worried enough

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Oh I am crapping in my pants scared, SCOTUS has teed-up a Trump Dictatorship.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1938 » by Kanyewest » Wed Jul 3, 2024 6:12 pm

A family member is writing letters for Biden (the group is aiming to write 10,000 letters) but also wants Biden to drop out. This person gave money to Biden when he was 4th in the primaries. I think people haven't really been paying attention to how much Biden has declined (and it may have accelerated even moreso since when Jon Stewart released those clippings) and there were also no viable candidates in the 2024 primary. It has also been seen as divisive when people run presidency or the primary but most people wouldn't seem to mind if Biden dropped out. A poll in the New York Times said that 74% of voters thought Biden was too old

Note, had a couple of friends in Maryland who have always voted democratic and they were willing to vote for Ron DeSantis before he ran had run in the primary. Before, I just took it that they were out of touch, but now it feels like that Biden could lose if he holds on to the nomination. Everyone in my age group had been saying Biden was too old even in last year - although most of them would vote for anyone against Trump - but I am worried about what voters are thinking about in battleground states.

Granted I agree that there is no consensus candidate that is eligible but at this point some people feel that they have reached the point where those who think Biden is too old are willing to compromise. I've heard moderates now who are willing to consider Bernie Sanders. I've heard progressives willing to nominate Gavin Newsom. Although, enthusiasm for Kamala Harris seems quite low.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1939 » by pancakes3 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 6:35 pm

closg00 wrote:
dobrojim wrote:Supreme Corruption. It *is* the worst decision since Dred Scott, or ever (?). It's hard to decide.
Maybe Biden needs to take advantage and do some official acts to save what's left of the country.

I was weighing if it was worse than Dredd Scott too, in the hands of Donald Trump, we’re under a de facto Dictatorship.


Taney writing Dred Scott certainly remains the worse opinion in a vacuum when comparing opinions 1v1. However, I would argue that Dred Scott was written at a time, and in a historical context where Taney was "merely" perpetuating the status quo and refusing to grant new rights to people whereas the Roberts Court thus far has been defined by a continuous effort to make the nation more regressive and is actively taking away existing rights, which is a crazy thing to type out.

Also, Trump v. United States is, from a technical perspective, a worse opinion, in terms of its structure, logic, lack of foundation, and direct contradiction of the words of the Constitution. Furthermore, Taney was at least the exercising the power of the judiciary as a check on the other branches. Roberts is actively surrendering power and abdicating responsibility as a check to the executive and legislative branches.

Holistically, considering Roberts' body of work, he may be the worst chief justice ever. Compare Roberts to Burger and Rehnquist, who were both considered to be reactionary conservative courts that sought to undo the progress made by the Warren Court. Despite being conservatives, Burger decided Chevron, Roe v. Wade, and US v. Nixon (President can't shield himself from producing evidence in a criminal prosecution on the doctrine of executive privilege). Rehnquist decided Lawrence v. Texas (can't criminalize homosexuality), and Grutter v. Bollinger (upheld affirmative action).

Rehnquist was chief justice for 19 years, and Burger for 17 years. Roberts, thus far in his 19 year tenure, has only produced one landmark decision that could be considered "good:" Obergefell (legalizing gay marriage). The "bad" opinions include (a) overturning affirmative action; (b) overturning Chevron; (c) overturning Roe v. Wade; and (d) negating a number of Nixon-era executive privilege/immunity cases with Trump v. United States.

Oh, and don't forget Shelby County, US v. Heller, Kneecapping Obamacare with Sebelius, an entire string of cases relating to campaign finance starting with Citizens United, an entire string of cases relating to gerrymandering, and an entire string of cases that uses "religious liberty" for all sorts of previously prohibited conduct such as discrimination, and inermixing of Church and State.

And the footnote to all of this is the non-legal stuff like Alito and Thomas's naked partisan biases and conflicts of interest, the bribery, Gorsuch's contentious confirmation over Garland, Kavannaugh's contentious confirmation being mired by sexual assault allegations, ACB's weird religious trad sect ties, etc.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1940 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:14 am

The Dem governors are sticking with Biden. For now

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