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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#41 » by doclinkin » Wed Jul 3, 2024 12:17 pm

AFM wrote:The fact that he's swiss doesn't help either. Bub for example has the swag of a young balla from bodymore murdaland, George has the swag of a kid who grew up drinking hot chocolate after skiing down the bunny slopes

one of the softest countries of all time



I mean right? He plays defense like he doesn't want to pick a side. Staying neutral.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#42 » by gesa2 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 12:40 pm

AFM wrote:The fact that he's swiss doesn't help either. Bub for example has the swag of a young balla from bodymore murdaland, George has the swag of a kid who grew up drinking hot chocolate after skiing down the bunny slopes

one of the softest countries of all time


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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#43 » by closg00 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:11 pm

NatP4 wrote:
closg00 wrote:We traded Gafford for this kid, so a lot is riding on this swing.


Traded Gafford and #51, picked him over Pacome Dadiet.


Yeah, I was NOT a fan on draft night when this happened. Pacome looks like a baller and George was a meh player at UM, he wasn’t played like he was an elite prospect there, will re-evaluate during SL.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#44 » by payitforward » Wed Jul 3, 2024 7:15 pm

Well... he can shoot the 3. Plus... let me see... oh yeah... he can shoot the 3.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#45 » by LyricalRico » Wed Jul 3, 2024 8:44 pm

payitforward wrote:Well... he can shoot the 3. Plus... let me see... oh yeah... he can shoot the 3.


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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#46 » by Kanyewest » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:32 pm

doclinkin wrote:
AFM wrote:The fact that he's swiss doesn't help either. Bub for example has the swag of a young balla from bodymore murdaland, George has the swag of a kid who grew up drinking hot chocolate after skiing down the bunny slopes

one of the softest countries of all time



I mean right? He plays defense like he doesn't want to pick a side. Staying neutral.


I went to Switzerland once as a kid and I remember staying in someone's apartment and the rule was that if you went to the bathroom at night, then you couldn't flush the toilet because it would make too much noise and wake up everyone. Hopefully George doesn't get overwhelmed with the ability to flush toilets whenever he wants to (or he doesn't wake up in the middle of night when people finish up their business)
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#47 » by AFM » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:22 am

Kanyewest wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
AFM wrote:The fact that he's swiss doesn't help either. Bub for example has the swag of a young balla from bodymore murdaland, George has the swag of a kid who grew up drinking hot chocolate after skiing down the bunny slopes

one of the softest countries of all time



I mean right? He plays defense like he doesn't want to pick a side. Staying neutral.


I went to Switzerland once as a kid and I remember staying in someone's apartment and the rule was that if you went to the bathroom at night, then you couldn't flush the toilet because it would make too much noise and wake up everyone. Hopefully George doesn't get overwhelmed with the ability to flush toilets whenever he wants to (or he doesn't wake up in the middle of night when people finish up their business)


Maybe he'll follow in Gilbert's footsteps and take a deuce in someone's shoes instead.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#48 » by NatP4 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:50 pm

Some team context

Miami finished 15-17 and ranked outside of the top 100 in all of the following: FG%, 2pt%, FTA, rebounding, assists, steals, blocks, turnovers, fouls.

George actually ranked 4th on the team in offensive/defensive rating and posted the 2nd highest BPM figure behind Norchad Omier. 2nd highest TS%.

It was an awful situation for George. Miami finished the year on a 10 game losing streak and lost 15 of the last 19 games after starting 11-2.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#49 » by Kanyewest » Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:12 pm

AFM wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
doclinkin wrote:

I mean right? He plays defense like he doesn't want to pick a side. Staying neutral.


I went to Switzerland once as a kid and I remember staying in someone's apartment and the rule was that if you went to the bathroom at night, then you couldn't flush the toilet because it would make too much noise and wake up everyone. Hopefully George doesn't get overwhelmed with the ability to flush toilets whenever he wants to (or he doesn't wake up in the middle of night when people finish up their business)


Maybe he'll follow in Gilbert's footsteps and take a deuce in someone's shoes instead.

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Post#50 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:56 pm

closg00 wrote:We traded Gafford for George and he would not have been my pick, he is doughy and possibly fat in few years, lacks twitch and burst, but he can shoot from range and has upside, I like the guys taken after him
He looks weak to me. There were many better players on the board.

I don't like this pick.

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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#51 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:58 pm

nate33 wrote:I posted a while ago when SUPERBALLMAN was touting George that I thought he reminded me a bit of Nicolas Batum. He is tall, long and can shoot, but he has no quickness or explosion. He can't get any separation at all off the bounce. He had an awful lane agility score (11.90) and 3/4 sprint (3.32)

He had a late growth spurt so he used to play PG, and that gives him pretty good vision and awareness as a connector, but he won't be running pick-and-rolls anytime soon.

Defensively, he has the tools other than being a little slow of foot. Right now, he makes plenty of mistakes as most young players do, and he isn't strong enough to hold up against the big boys, which will improve over time.

Overall, I'd say there's virtually no chance he becomes a star, but there's a fair chance he could develop into a 4th or 5th starter, or at least a rotation player. I would not have been happy with this pick in the lotto, but if you told me we would land him at #24, I don't think I'd be too upset.

However, once we actually got to #24 and I saw some of the other names still on the board, I am a little disappointed. I would have probably taken Terrence Shannon Jr.
Shannon would have been a much better pick.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#52 » by doclinkin » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:23 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Shannon would have been a much better pick.


Except for the whole ‘on trial for sexual assault’ thing. I don’t think a rebuilding team with a mess of rookies and youth wants to risk that energy in the locker room.

If they wanted a tall shooter I’d have looked at the Aussie Furphy. Me I think I’d have taken the guy OKC traded for in Dillon Jones. He might be doughy looking too but he can flat out play.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#53 » by DCZards » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:55 pm

doclinkin wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Shannon would have been a much better pick.


Except for the whole ‘on trial for sexual assault’ thing. I don’t think a rebuilding team with a mess of rookies and youth wants to risk that energy in the locker room.

If they wanted a tall shooter I’d have looked at the Aussie Furphy. Me I think I’d have taken the guy OKC traded for in Dillon Jones. He might be doughy looking too but he can flat out play.

I would have drafted Shannon. I’m not holding the arrest against the young man since he was acquitted.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#54 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 10:39 pm

Rookie forward Pacome Dadiet agreed to sign with the New York Knicks for 80% of his rookie scale amount. Players picked in the first round are eligible to sign for at least 80% and up to 120% of the rookie scale. Most players sign for 120% of the scale amount.

Dadiet may have gotten a promise from the Knicks that he would be drafted in the first round, if he took less than the scale amount. This will result in over $900 thousand in in savings for New York. That amount is significant, as the Knicks are trying to create as much wiggle room as possible to say below the tax aprons.


This is interesting to me, so the Knicks were always going to take Dadiet whether he was there at 24 or 26, and were assured by Washington that they were going to take George to secure the trade?
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#55 » by payitforward » Thu Jul 4, 2024 10:53 pm

Absolutely not! He was found to be innocent. No problem at all.

All the same, Shannon was not at the top of my list. I'm with doc on this one -- Dillon Jones.

But, that's at 26. I.e. no trade. Meaning I get Dillon Jones & someone at 51.

Edit: That said, I hope Kyshaun George proves me foolish by playing well! :)
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Post#56 » by payitforward » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:14 pm

closg00 wrote:
Rookie forward Pacome Dadiet agreed to sign with the New York Knicks for 80% of his rookie scale amount. Players picked in the first round are eligible to sign for at least 80% and up to 120% of the rookie scale. Most players sign for 120% of the scale amount.

Dadiet may have gotten a promise from the Knicks that he would be drafted in the first round, if he took less than the scale amount. This will result in over $900 thousand in in savings for New York. That amount is significant, as the Knicks are trying to create as much wiggle room as possible to say below the tax aprons.


This is interesting to me, so the Knicks were always going to take Dadiet whether he was there at 24 or 26, and were assured by Washington that they were going to take George to secure the trade?

In which case, why did we trade up?

If they required assurance that we were not going to take Dadiet w/ 24 but were going to take George, then if they made the trade it means they can't have wanted George. If they'd wanted to get George, they wouldn't have made the trade.

But, if they didn't want George, we didn't have to trade up to be sure of getting him!

Hence... why did we trade up? Once they were receptive, we could have just said we'd "changed our minds." & George would have been there at 26.
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#57 » by payitforward » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:25 pm

TBH, it seems to me that we were out-maneuvered & lost 51 for no reason whatever!

Note, btw, that the Knicks didn't even use 51. They traded it to Dallas for the #58 pick, cash, & the meaningless rights to Petteri Koponen (the 30th overall pick in 2007).
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#58 » by NatP4 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:36 pm

One of two horrible draft night trades
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#59 » by closg00 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 12:32 am

payitforward wrote:TBH, it seems to me that we were out-maneuvered & lost 51 for no reason whatever!

Note, btw, that the Knicks didn't even use 51. They traded it to Dallas for the #58 pick, cash, & the meaningless rights to Petteri Koponen (the 30th overall pick in 2007).

It appears that way, trying to think of any other scenario
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Re: Kyshawn George 

Post#60 » by payitforward » Fri Jul 5, 2024 1:17 am

Well... other scenarios are certainly possible. They may have had another suitor for the pick, for example -- one that did want George.

I probably wouldn't be grousing about this if I liked George a little more. Off of what I see on youtube & in his numbers... I don't get it. Great if he surprises!

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