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Post#1361 » by RCM88x » Wed Jul 3, 2024 6:46 pm

I was pretty against Lebron taking any sort of paycut so the Lakers could theoretically sign another player. However with the reporting on Bronny's contract... yeah he should definitely take a pay cut for that lol. Pretty insane deal for a 55th pick even if he lives up to it somehow.

FWIW I don't think DeRozan helps this team at all, either now or going forward. Bad on defense, can't space the floor, old... would just be another Westbrook. Anyone who can play at least some defense and stand on the perimeter would be better.
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Post#1363 » by Ian Scuffling » Wed Jul 3, 2024 7:26 pm

Yeah, adding DeRozan means nothing for the reasons that you and others have mentioned. Doesn't help with spacing in the least and he plays old, especially on defense. As usual, I'll just be watching to watch the GOAT do his thing, still playing at an unprecendented level at his age. But, hoping for a championship? Nope, not at all.
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Post#1365 » by tsherkin » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:25 pm

ShaqAttac wrote:derozan isnt good?


He's okay in the RS. Still a net negative on D, still not an impact playmaker, still dreadful in the playoffs, still not a spacer because he isn't a particularly good 3pt shooter. He doesn't address any of LA's issues.
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Post#1366 » by nzahir » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:03 pm

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ShaqAttac wrote:derozan isnt good?


He's okay in the RS. Still a net negative on D, still not an impact playmaker, still dreadful in the playoffs, still not a spacer because he isn't a particularly good 3pt shooter. He doesn't address any of LA's issues.

He does address lack of playmaking when Bron sits, but I don't know if he can close games with our ok spacing

Dlo probably still a better fit, so moving DLO (and maybe more) wouldn't be a big upgrade, if its even an upgrade

At least Dlo can hit open 3s in the reg season

But not sure what our options are now
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Post#1367 » by tsherkin » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:05 pm

nzahir wrote:He does address lack of playmaking when Bron sits,


Eh. He's one of the most underwhelming 5 apg players I know. Very simplistic. Not materially superior to Pascal Siakam in that respect. If you're looking for him to create a lot, it's going to be a problem.
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Post#1369 » by Dupp » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:49 pm

Colbinii wrote:Pretty crazy Golden State added Melton, Hield and SlowMo while the Lakers added absolutely nobody but Delonte West's nephew.



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Post#1371 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:05 am

LeBron staying for a season to play with son and then bouncing hopefully
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Post#1372 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:07 am

Hopefully Lakers pull of a trade for CamJ and DFS.

I'd be thrilled with that.

DLo+Rui+JHS or something like that.
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Post#1373 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:19 am

Prince is gone too....thanks to us not having any open spots......for Cam Reddish and Hayes.....great job Pelinka

Rob is such a horrible GM its insane. How have we still not addressed our backup C concern? That should be simple

We aren't asking for unreasonable stuff here imo. Boston built a team off of multiple great moves, why cant we make any good moves?

I hope to god bron took a little less to keep us under the 2nd apron. That can be fixed anyways if we dump a vet (cost a 2nd or so) but a million or so shouldnt be a big deal to him

I am dissapointed he didnt take a paycut, but also looks like we were striking out and I doubt Bron wanted to take a 15m paycut for someone like GTJ on the MLE

Soo are we going to somehow get Miles Bridges for the mini mle? (yes we are that desperate)

Trading multiple guys for 1 may be the best bet from a flexibility standpoint, but doing the math on Lavine its pretty hard. Unless we are fine moving 1 of Rui or Vando, but can't replace them too well. Not sure who we would be able to get for a backup/starting wing and backup pg. Not a lot of great cheap options out there. Any names?

My favorite idea is still going out and getting Cam Johnson and a solid backup C (would even take Sharpe from BKN)
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Post#1374 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:29 am

nzahir wrote:Prince is gone too....thanks to us not having any open spots......for Cam Reddish and Hayes.....great job Pelinka

Rob is such a horrible GM its insane. How have we still not addressed our backup C concern? That should be simple

We aren't asking for unreasonable stuff here imo. Boston built a team off of multiple great moves, why cant we make any good moves?

I hope to god bron took a little less to keep us under the 2nd apron. That can be fixed anyways if we dump a vet (cost a 2nd or so) but a million or so shouldnt be a big deal to him

I am dissapointed he didnt take a paycut, but also looks like we were striking out and I doubt Bron wanted to take a 15m paycut for someone like GTJ on the MLE

Soo are we going to somehow get Miles Bridges for the mini mle? (yes we are that desperate)

Trading multiple guys for 1 may be the best bet from a flexibility standpoint, but doing the math on Lavine its pretty hard. Unless we are fine moving 1 of Rui or Vando, but can't replace them too well. Not sure who we would be able to get for a backup/starting wing and backup pg. Not a lot of great cheap options out there. Any names?

My favorite idea is still going out and getting Cam Johnson and a solid backup C (would even take Sharpe from BKN)



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Post#1375 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:10 am

zimpy27 wrote:LeBron staying for a season to play with son and then bouncing hopefully


Bouncing where though?

He's not 29. He's 39.

I doubt he'll leave LA now since he hasn't already.
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Post#1376 » by therealbig3 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:17 am

nzahir wrote:Prince is gone too....thanks to us not having any open spots......for Cam Reddish and Hayes.....great job Pelinka

Rob is such a horrible GM its insane. How have we still not addressed our backup C concern? That should be simple

We aren't asking for unreasonable stuff here imo. Boston built a team off of multiple great moves, why cant we make any good moves?

I hope to god bron took a little less to keep us under the 2nd apron. That can be fixed anyways if we dump a vet (cost a 2nd or so) but a million or so shouldnt be a big deal to him

I am dissapointed he didnt take a paycut, but also looks like we were striking out and I doubt Bron wanted to take a 15m paycut for someone like GTJ on the MLE

Soo are we going to somehow get Miles Bridges for the mini mle? (yes we are that desperate)

Trading multiple guys for 1 may be the best bet from a flexibility standpoint, but doing the math on Lavine its pretty hard. Unless we are fine moving 1 of Rui or Vando, but can't replace them too well. Not sure who we would be able to get for a backup/starting wing and backup pg. Not a lot of great cheap options out there. Any names?

My favorite idea is still going out and getting Cam Johnson and a solid backup C (would even take Sharpe from BKN)


Ok so honest question:

What do the Lakers have to trade to make any good moves here? Their assets are all pretty crappy, and they dont really have a great collection of draft picks to trade, so how do you plan on acquiring good players from other teams without anything good to actually give them in return?

I mean, an actually smart move would have been to say goodbye to LeBron and to trade Davis and recoup some assets and go for a rebuild, because this roster isn’t doing anything, it’s just a waste of whatever good years LeBron and Davis have left.
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Post#1377 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:42 am

TheGOATRises007 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:LeBron staying for a season to play with son and then bouncing hopefully


Bouncing where though?

He's not 29. He's 39.

I doubt he'll leave LA now since he hasn't already.


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Post#1378 » by jalengreen » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:43 am

therealbig3 wrote:
nzahir wrote:Prince is gone too....thanks to us not having any open spots......for Cam Reddish and Hayes.....great job Pelinka

Rob is such a horrible GM its insane. How have we still not addressed our backup C concern? That should be simple

We aren't asking for unreasonable stuff here imo. Boston built a team off of multiple great moves, why cant we make any good moves?

I hope to god bron took a little less to keep us under the 2nd apron. That can be fixed anyways if we dump a vet (cost a 2nd or so) but a million or so shouldnt be a big deal to him

I am dissapointed he didnt take a paycut, but also looks like we were striking out and I doubt Bron wanted to take a 15m paycut for someone like GTJ on the MLE

Soo are we going to somehow get Miles Bridges for the mini mle? (yes we are that desperate)

Trading multiple guys for 1 may be the best bet from a flexibility standpoint, but doing the math on Lavine its pretty hard. Unless we are fine moving 1 of Rui or Vando, but can't replace them too well. Not sure who we would be able to get for a backup/starting wing and backup pg. Not a lot of great cheap options out there. Any names?

My favorite idea is still going out and getting Cam Johnson and a solid backup C (would even take Sharpe from BKN)


Ok so honest question:

What do the Lakers have to trade to make any good moves here? Their assets are all pretty crappy, and they dont really have a great collection of draft picks to trade, so how do you plan on acquiring good players from other teams without anything good to actually give them in return?

I mean, an actually smart move would have been to say goodbye to LeBron and to trade Davis and recoup some assets and go for a rebuild, because this roster isn’t doing anything, it’s just a waste of whatever good years LeBron and Davis have left.


Lakers FRPs are pretty valuable given that they're likely to be trash post-Bron/AD
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Post#1379 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:51 am

zimpy27 wrote:
TheGOATRises007 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:LeBron staying for a season to play with son and then bouncing hopefully


Bouncing where though?

He's not 29. He's 39.

I doubt he'll leave LA now since he hasn't already.


Cavs for retirement run is my hope

I can see that if this year is another failure (rd 1 exit or anything before)

He only took a 1+1, so maybe there is some thought in his head
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Post#1380 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:52 am

Prince went as a vet min...

That's sad that Lakers couldnt keep this dude. Pelinka needs to be fired. What does it take to fire this guy?
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