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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1441 » by BKlutch » Wed Jul 3, 2024 7:16 pm

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Red Vines wrote:Hukporti needs his own thread. I was watching those highlights today and he can be a big contributor especially with all the attention the other 4 guys will have on them. His footwork is great, he moves easily even coming off his achilles injury and has shooting touch. Then you watch his interviews and he's just very mature, high IQ...I really want to see him play here.

That's very encouraging to hear... I need to research him.

Update...

Oh Damn he can really ball well ...he has post moves and a floater.



and he's 7ft, thought he was smaller..

he appears to be more skilled than Sims on offense already.

He does, and that's not surprising. I wonder if there's truth to the rumor that Thibs wants Sims on the roster because Sims has lots of good, thick hair and Thibs hopes he can get some of it for a hair transplant.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1442 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 3, 2024 7:55 pm

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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1443 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jul 3, 2024 7:55 pm

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Poor kid is cursed already

Hopefully he doesn’t turn out like your guy Poku!


I have no idea what your talking about but have a happy 4th!

I have no idea what curse you speak of as well!!! Only curse I’m familiar with is the sham curse!!!

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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1444 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 3, 2024 7:59 pm

sol537 wrote:If Hardy’s not gonna play Kessler then CAA is going to demand a trade and the clock is ticking.

Ainge would settle for McBride, Sims, WAS 1st, 2030 swap


Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1445 » by RHODEY » Wed Jul 3, 2024 8:08 pm

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sol537 wrote:If Hardy’s not gonna play Kessler then CAA is going to demand a trade and the clock is ticking.

Ainge would settle for McBride, Sims, WAS 1st, 2030 swap


Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.



With Kolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center position.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1446 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 3, 2024 8:10 pm

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sol537 wrote:If Hardy’s not gonna play Kessler then CAA is going to demand a trade and the clock is ticking.

Ainge would settle for McBride, Sims, WAS 1st, 2030 swap


Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.



With Dolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center postion.


Not with Thibs. It took Deuce 3 seasons to get to this point.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1447 » by Guano » Wed Jul 3, 2024 8:13 pm

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Poor kid is cursed already

Hopefully he doesn’t turn out like your guy Poku!


Tough to tell apart

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Its shocking that he didn't turn out to be a star. He definitely has the look of one
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1448 » by Buttah304 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 8:35 pm

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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1449 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 3, 2024 9:09 pm

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HopelessKnick wrote:The doom and gloom here by some is really ridiculous.....you'd think we lost a star player. Hartenstein was really solid for us but he was far from someone irreplacable. Also taken all 4 playoff series together that he played for us---they were relatively underwhelming if we are honest. Last season he averaged 3points/4rebounds in 20minutes through 11 playoff games and was invisible. This time he had some very good games but also a lot of bad ones in the playoffs and ended up getting 9points/8rebounds in 30minutes. Good, solid but definitely not some irreplacable force. There are at least like 10-15 backup Centers that provide things that he does but haven't gotten the playing time to showcase it.

Again, we have two protected FRPs remaining, we can pick swap as well. If the FO can create two salaries that aggregate around 10mill.-15mill. we will be able to correct this deficit during the season 100%. The worst case scenario is we go into the playoffs with a slightly worse backup Center than Hartenstein. That's the absolute worst case....like a Jonas Valanciunas type backup. Anyone thinking we'll go into the playoffs with Mitch and Sims has not followed this FO the past 2-3 years.


Who’s that?

I do agree with you on the doom and gloom part. The thing that IHart gave us was another playmaker bc of his passing and smart play. The team with the best record in the western conference last season is now paying him $27 million per year to be its starting center. But that’s life.


Valanciunas is a pretty solid Center capable of doing a bit of everything. He was a better defender when he was younger but he is still ok. Averaged 12/9 last season with the Pelicans and signed with the Wizards for 3years/30mill.

The thing about Ihart's playmaking is true but there is one catch: Randle was out and we didn't have Mikal.....with both of them here the opportunities for Ihart to playmake with the ball in his hands would have been nowhere near last season. People overlook that and assume he would have just continued that. I remember in december watching a knick game and the german commentator said something long the lines of: "Rumors around Hartenstein are he is pretty unhappy in NY because he has been reduced to a rebounder and 15minute backup by the Knicks. He feels capable of doing much more." I actually think that if it wasn't for the Mitch and Randle injuries, Hartenstein would have continued playing 15-20 minutes a game and left in FA anyways. Keep in mind that up until the Mitch injury, Hartenstein was playing less minutes than his first season here.

We are going to be good anyways. The only thing of importance right now is to create one or two bigger salaries for midseason trades.

As for OKC: The reason they paid him that is very easy---their upcoming big extensions are 2 years from now mostly. They overpaid like crazy for Hartenstein because it does not hurt their longterm position and boosts their current title hopes. I heard the third year is not fully guaranteed---thus meaning that this insane 30mill. per year salary only last for two years---which OKC can afford. Also they would have to overpay big to make him leave NY. the 30mill. salary is more circumstantial and not because Presti believes Hartenstein is actually worth it (which he isn't)....like in Philly, two of our rivals were in a unique salary cap position where they could afford these moves without hurting their chances too much....were Williams and Holmgreen due for an extension next year for example, there was 0% chance they would have made Hartenstein this offer.


Valencunas was signed by the Wizards so he’s gone. 3 years/$30 million
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1450 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 3, 2024 9:13 pm

Buttah304 wrote:Isaiah wife after walking through downtown OKC trying to find a bar/restaurant but only seeing museums

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If you cut Isaiah’s contract in half - after the D-I-V-O-R-C-E - he’d be making more money is he had stayed married in NYC :lol:

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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1451 » by sol537 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 9:33 pm

I want to see Mitch, OG, Hart, Mikal, and McBride out there at the same time… could be a league leading 5-man defensive rotation in advanced metrics…
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1452 » by RHODEY » Wed Jul 3, 2024 9:50 pm

sol537 wrote:I want to see Mitch, OG, Hart, Mikal, and McBride out there at the same time… could be a league leading 5-man defensive rotation in advanced metrics…


I want to see Hart, Mcbride, Divo , Kolek, and whichever big we get (or already have) terrorize the other team's 2nd units.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1453 » by RHODEY » Wed Jul 3, 2024 9:52 pm

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Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.



With Dolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center postion.


Not with Thibs. It took Deuce 3 seasons to get to this point.


Are you saying he woudn't play Kessler? Because Thibs is a junkie for rim protection....something that Kessler would provide in abundance.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1454 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jul 3, 2024 9:54 pm

sol537 wrote:I want to see Mitch, OG, Hart, Mikal, and McBride out there at the same time… could be a league leading 5-man defensive rotation in advanced metrics…



The glaring issue is that 2 of those guys are very injury prone, we have guys that can pickup the slack when OG misses time, there's nobody that Tom is comfortable starting if Mitch is out, and odds are he will miss time. That's why the loss of Ihart stings, and why almost everyone agrees that we need another C.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1455 » by stuporman » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:58 pm

RHODEY wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
sol537 wrote:If Hardy��s not gonna play Kessler then CAA is going to demand a trade and the clock is ticking.

Ainge would settle for McBride, Sims, WAS 1st, 2030 swap


Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.



With Dolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center postion.


Dolek? Is that like...
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1456 » by RHODEY » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:00 am

stuporman wrote:
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Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.



With Dolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center postion.


Dolek? Is that like...
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our new center .....duh :D
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1457 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:30 am

RHODEY wrote:
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With Dolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center postion.


Dolek? Is that like...
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our new center .....duh :D
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Man those were some horrible times
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1458 » by DaGawd » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:33 am

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Dolek? Is that like...
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our new center .....duh :D
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Man those were some horrible times

knicks were fkin unusable in 2k lol. doleac was like a 53 overall rating himself lol
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1459 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:35 am

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Man those were some horrible times

knicks were fkin unusable in 2k lol. doleac was like a 53 overall rating himself lol


Had like one random good player in Keith van horn randomly
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1460 » by Zenzibar » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:18 am

RHODEY wrote:
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sol537 wrote:If Hardy’s not gonna play Kessler then CAA is going to demand a trade and the clock is ticking.

Ainge would settle for McBride, Sims, WAS 1st, 2030 swap


Deuce has to stay. We'll give them a couple of seconds instead.



With Kolek maybe we could spare Deuce....I hate to do that, because Deuce was a stud in the playoffs, but Kessler would really fortify us at the center position.


Kolek is not a rotation piece, Deuce is. This year it's all about having a top 3 defense in the NBA.
Noone is sure when Kolek will earn Thibs' trust on that end of the floor.

Until such time McBride, who is under a super friendly contract and may be ready to take another leap, is our backup point guard.
If by some unmentionable reason Deuce has to start, Kolek moves up.
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