How is CC's rookie year going to go?

[MrDollarBills]

looks like CC currently has the lead in ROY voting, at least among the panel of AP voters

https://apnews.com/article/wnba-rookie-of-year-clark-reese-6f29bc3c7bd2bd4ce07e8cdfcaaf34b6

NEW YORK (AP) — Caitlin Clark leads Angel Reese in the race for WNBA Rookie of the Year honors at the midpoint of the season, according to a national panel of voters who also rank the AP Power Poll each week.

Clark and Reese have garnered national attention with record-setting rookie seasons — leading to them being the first rookie duo to make an All-Star team since 2014 — so it’s no surprise that they’re the leading candidates for the award.

The pair have helped the league to huge increases in ratings, attendance and merchandise sales and with so much basketball still to be played an argument can be made for either to win the award.

But at the halfway point, the 15-member panel gives the edge to Clark in a 9-5 vote. One person didn’t vote.

“Today, I would say Clark, only because they have one more win overall as a team and have a 2-1 lead head-to-head,” said voter Christy Winters-Scott, a basketball analyst for the Mystics. “Clearly this could change as the WNBA season progresses. It has been a complete joy for me to witness how both players have evolved as professionals in such a short amount of time in the league.”

Can you remember a time where two players have come into a pro league and made this much noise as rookies in the post Magic/Bird era?

I am hard pressed to think of anyone outside of Jason Kidd and Grant Hill, and even then they weren't doing historical things like Angel and CC are.

hmm lebron and melo come to mind as another somewhat close great race but yeah even that was a long time ago

That's a gold comparison. Both guys were 19 years old and hit the ground running.

Statistically Clark and Reese are putting up insane numbers at age 22. 16/6/6 and 14/12 at their respective positions is elite stuff

[TerrenceClarke]

Can you remember a time where two players have come into a pro league and made this much noise as rookies in the post Magic/Bird era?

I am hard pressed to think of anyone outside of Jason Kidd and Grant Hill, and even then they weren't doing historical things like Angel and CC are.

hmm lebron and melo come to mind as another somewhat close great race but yeah even that was a long time ago

That's a gold comparison. Both guys were 19 years old and hit the ground running.

Statistically Clark and Reese are putting up insane numbers at age 22. 16/6/6 and 14/12 at their respective positions is elite stuff

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

[Ghetto Gospel]

hmm lebron and melo come to mind as another somewhat close great race but yeah even that was a long time ago

That's a gold comparison. Both guys were 19 years old and hit the ground running.

Statistically Clark and Reese are putting up insane numbers at age 22. 16/6/6 and 14/12 at their respective positions is elite stuff

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

rookie of the year was never in doubt that year though. it was always going to be AI by a landslide if i remember correctly

[TerrenceClarke]

That's a gold comparison. Both guys were 19 years old and hit the ground running.

Statistically Clark and Reese are putting up insane numbers at age 22. 16/6/6 and 14/12 at their respective positions is elite stuff

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

rookie of the year was never in doubt that year though. it was always going to be AI by a landslide if i remember correctly

That’s not what he said he said who came in as rookies
and had the league lit

4 of these cats was monsters from the jump

[TerrenceClarke]

Also AI only beat Steph by 9 votes that’s hardly a landslide

35 to 44 is a good race.

And Steph was 2 years younger to boot

[Ghetto Gospel]

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

rookie of the year was never in doubt that year though. it was always going to be AI by a landslide if i remember correctly

That’s not what he said he said who came in as rookies
and had the league lit

4 of these cats was monsters from the jump

oh, i was thinking about it like a close ROY race with guys taking over the league but yeah

it's crazy we don't see a bunch of rookies going crazy in the league anymore. it's only ever 1 or 2 and the rest take a while to get there

[Ice Man]

“Today, I would say Clark, only because they have one more win overall as a team and have a 2-1 lead head-to-head,” said voter Christy Winters-Scott, a basketball analyst for the Mystics.

So, her decision comes down to "if the teammates of one candidate play better than the teammates of another candidate, how the people who are not in contention for the award perform will decide my award vote."

[TerrenceClarke]

For comparison Lebron beat Melo by 38 votes.

[Ghetto Gospel]

Also AI only beat Steph by 9 votes that’s hardly a landslide

35 to 44 is a good race.

And Steph was 2 years younger to boot

i wonder why voting went that way. iverson numbers go crazy over stephs, maybe team success?

[TerrenceClarke]

rookie of the year was never in doubt that year though. it was always going to be AI by a landslide if i remember correctly

That’s not what he said he said who came in as rookies
and had the league lit

4 of these cats was monsters from the jump

oh, i was thinking about it like a close ROY race with guys taking over the league but yeah

it's crazy we don't see a bunch of rookies going crazy in the league anymore. it's only ever 1 or 2 and the rest take a while to get there

The skill level dropped a lot. It used be stud rookies came in an and was nasty. I can name a schit load of them.

Most of the 90s studs only played one extra year than the one and done era.

[MrDollarBills]

“Today, I would say Clark, only because they have one more win overall as a team and have a 2-1 lead head-to-head,” said voter Christy Winters-Scott, a basketball analyst for the Mystics.

So, her decision comes down to "if the teammates of one candidate play better than the teammates of another candidate, how the people who are not in contention for the award perform will decide my award vote."

Yeah I would have just said it's a tight race and kept it moving. Record should have nothing to do with this.

[TerrenceClarke]

Also AI only beat Steph by 9 votes that’s hardly a landslide

35 to 44 is a good race.

And Steph was 2 years younger to boot

i wonder why voting went that way. iverson numbers go crazy over stephs, maybe team success?

Scoring wise yeah for sure

But coming in as PG in the hand check era with 16 & 8 is pretty elite

He also shot 35% from 3 which is not shabby either.

I think basketball voters understood what Marbs was doing was pretty elite for a rookie.

[MrDollarBills]

hmm lebron and melo come to mind as another somewhat close great race but yeah even that was a long time ago

That's a gold comparison. Both guys were 19 years old and hit the ground running.

Statistically Clark and Reese are putting up insane numbers at age 22. 16/6/6 and 14/12 at their respective positions is elite stuff

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

That class was an all time great, but there was no question who the ROY would be in that season.

Kidd, Grant Hill and LeBron, Melo are the only guys that I can remember where there were legit arguments for both players like how it is with Reese/Clark now.

[TerrenceClarke]

That's a gold comparison. Both guys were 19 years old and hit the ground running.

Statistically Clark and Reese are putting up insane numbers at age 22. 16/6/6 and 14/12 at their respective positions is elite stuff

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

That class was an all time great, but there was no question who the ROY would be in that season.

Kidd, Grant Hill and LeBron, Melo are the only guys that I can remember where there were legit arguments for both players like how it is with Reese/Clark now.

This was your question

Can you remember a time where two players have come into a pro league and made this much noise as rookies in the post Magic/Bird era?

A bunch of 96 cats made huge noise.

And Steph and AI was closer than Lebron and Melo by a lot

[TerrenceClarke]

Just to show the depth of 96 rookies

Besides Melo and Lebron not other rookie got votes.

Shareef got 25 votes that year

Walker got 5

Kittles got 5

3rd place votes to AI were closer than 2nd place votes to Lebron with Melo.

[MrDollarBills]

Since yall having brain freeze right now I will just post this here.


AI is not even in this photo. That’s tells you how elite this is. 2 is not enough for the 96 draft class which had multiple.

That class was an all time great, but there was no question who the ROY would be in that season.

Kidd, Grant Hill and LeBron, Melo are the only guys that I can remember where there were legit arguments for both players like how it is with Reese/Clark now.

This was your question

Can you remember a time where two players have come into a pro league and made this much noise as rookies in the post Magic/Bird era?

A bunch of 96 cats made huge noise.

And Steph and AI was closer than Lebron and Melo by a lot

Oh yeah, for sure. Some guys didn't hit the ground running right away though like AI did. Steph, Kittles, Ray, Camby i remember being good pretty much right away.

Voting wise sure, I just think that AI was better than Steph that season overall. I thought LeBron and Melo were really close in terms of individual play that year.

[jc23]

“Today, I would say Clark, only because they have one more win overall as a team and have a 2-1 lead head-to-head,” said voter Christy Winters-Scott, a basketball analyst for the Mystics.

So, her decision comes down to "if the teammates of one candidate play better than the teammates of another candidate, how the people who are not in contention for the award perform will decide my award vote."

Maybe its contagious; Monica Mcnutt said pretty much the same thing. Its a take i have never heard from an NBA analyst before.

[TerrenceClarke]

That class was an all time great, but there was no question who the ROY would be in that season.

Kidd, Grant Hill and LeBron, Melo are the only guys that I can remember where there were legit arguments for both players like how it is with Reese/Clark now.

This was your question

Can you remember a time where two players have come into a pro league and made this much noise as rookies in the post Magic/Bird era?

A bunch of 96 cats made huge noise.

And Steph and AI was closer than Lebron and Melo by a lot

Oh yeah, for sure. Some guys didn't hit the ground running right away though like AI did. Steph, Kittles, Ray, Camby i remember being good pretty much right away.

Voting wise sure, I just think that AI was better than Steph that season overall. I thought LeBron and Melo were really close in terms of individual play that year.

Bruh Shareef was better than everyone you named but AI & Steph by a lot.

I’m suprised you don’t remember what shareef was doing as a rookie.

He was hurt for the exposure playing in Vancouver but as a child I always read the box scores in the NY post religiously and saw his numbers nightly.

At the end of the day we all have our opinions but it’s the voters who make the call.

I can think Reese is having the better season but if they vote CC then thats what goes down in the history books.


Historically speaking Steph and AI was universally seen as close all things realtive. AI destroyed Steph mostly culturally. That’s where the landslide is. Not in actual NBA play.

Steph was a teenager going ham. AI was 21.

[Ghetto Gospel]

This was your question





A bunch of 96 cats made huge noise.

And Steph and AI was closer than Lebron and Melo by a lot

Oh yeah, for sure. Some guys didn't hit the ground running right away though like AI did. Steph, Kittles, Ray, Camby i remember being good pretty much right away.

Voting wise sure, I just think that AI was better than Steph that season overall. I thought LeBron and Melo were really close in terms of individual play that year.

Bruh Shareef was better than everyone you named but AI & Steph by a lot.

I’m suprised you don’t remember what shareef was doing as a rookie.

He was hurt for the exposure playing in Vancouver but as a child I always read the box scores in the NY post religiously and saw his numbers nightly.

At the end of the day we all have our opinions but it’s the voters who make the call.

I can think Reese is having the better season but if they vote CC then thats what goes down in the history books.


Historically speaking Steph and AI was universally seen as close all things realtive. AI destroyed Steph mostly culturally. That’s where the landslide is. Not in actual NBA play.

Steph was a teenager going ham. AI was 21.

ultimately, it might not even matter in the long run who wins ROY b/w clark and reese.

when people rank magic and bird all-time no ones thinking about who won ROY that year. they rank the stats, wins, MVPs, etc. i think most people these days don't even know. the crazy thing is they came into the league together and off-rip they were seen as near equals and even on the all-time rankings its usually magic and bird right next to each other as near equals

[rmontro]

Although I'm trying to forget the Fever's game with the Mystics, Clark's 29 points, 13 assists, 5 rebounds, and 5 steals were impressive.