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frankenwolf wrote:So, correct me if I'm wrong, since PHO is over the 2nd apron, they can not combine outgoing players, right? Who would trade for JO and that $8M salary just to make PHO better? I don't like that addition, but I'm not an NBA GM/POBO either.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:frankenwolf wrote:So, correct me if I'm wrong, since PHO is over the 2nd apron, they can not combine outgoing players, right? Who would trade for JO and that $8M salary just to make PHO better? I don't like that addition, but I'm not an NBA GM/POBO either.
I wonder if they are looking to do something like what Dallas did at the trade deadline. Looking for someone who another team might want to move off of. In the grand scheme of things, someone making $8,250,000 is not untradeable.
BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:frankenwolf wrote:So, correct me if I'm wrong, since PHO is over the 2nd apron, they can not combine outgoing players, right? Who would trade for JO and that $8M salary just to make PHO better? I don't like that addition, but I'm not an NBA GM/POBO either.
I wonder if they are looking to do something like what Dallas did at the trade deadline. Looking for someone who another team might want to move off of. In the grand scheme of things, someone making $8,250,000 is not untradeable.
I think the harder part is finding someone making 8M or less that can jump into their rotation.
The official numbers on Okogie's deal - 8.25 million on his first year.
16 players who make between Little's 6.75 million and Okogie's 8.25. These are now the players we are (legally) allowed to trade for, that we couldn't with Little's contract alone:
Ron Holland
Cody Martin
Jock Landale
Trey Lyles
Kevon Looney
Jaden Ivey
Vasilije Micic
Jonathan Kuminga
Anthony Black
Tidjane Salaun
Ben Mathurin
Jae'Sean Tate
Franz Wagner
Ayo Dosunmu
Bilal Coulibaly.
Donovan Clingan
Realistically, out of this list, it's basically Cody Martin, Looney, Micic and Dosunmu who could be trade targets.
Dosunmu would make the most sense - good defender, and his 3-ball is improving. Wouldn't trade the 2031 for him tho. Not sure Chicago would do it for Okogie + two 2nds
Of course, the other guys making less than 6.75 million are also still available to us. Okogie's expiring deal is probably a lot more enticing than Little's contract, which has 2 more years to go after this year.
So I think the likes of Corey Kispert, Nick Richards, Dean Wade, Tre Mann, Isaiah Jackson, Day'ron Sharpe, Santi Aldama could all be realistic targets.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:I wonder if they are looking to do something like what Dallas did at the trade deadline. Looking for someone who another team might want to move off of. In the grand scheme of things, someone making $8,250,000 is not untradeable.
I think the harder part is finding someone making 8M or less that can jump into their rotation.
It's not as hard as you might think.
From the Suns board:The official numbers on Okogie's deal - 8.25 million on his first year.
16 players who make between Little's 6.75 million and Okogie's 8.25. These are now the players we are (legally) allowed to trade for, that we couldn't with Little's contract alone:
Ron Holland
Cody Martin
Jock Landale
Trey Lyles
Kevon Looney
Jaden Ivey
Vasilije Micic
Jonathan Kuminga
Anthony Black
Tidjane Salaun
Ben Mathurin
Jae'Sean Tate
Franz Wagner
Ayo Dosunmu
Bilal Coulibaly.
Donovan Clingan
Realistically, out of this list, it's basically Cody Martin, Looney, Micic and Dosunmu who could be trade targets.
Dosunmu would make the most sense - good defender, and his 3-ball is improving. Wouldn't trade the 2031 for him tho. Not sure Chicago would do it for Okogie + two 2nds
Of course, the other guys making less than 6.75 million are also still available to us. Okogie's expiring deal is probably a lot more enticing than Little's contract, which has 2 more years to go after this year.
So I think the likes of Corey Kispert, Nick Richards, Dean Wade, Tre Mann, Isaiah Jackson, Day'ron Sharpe, Santi Aldama could all be realistic targets.
frankenwolf wrote:shrink wrote:I agree with everybody here. Good for Josh to get paid $8 mil when he’s a vet min level player, but PHX is betting on using him as a walking trade exception. True, re-signing your own free agents is one of the few ways a team over the second apron can add matching salary, but his contract is only useful if it’s traded, and they don’t have the assets to move him. This is a gamble that they may get assets BEFORE the trade deadline by trading someone else, and before the lux tax becomes due.
I understand the play. We’re in a similar situation to PHX financially and I suggested making a similar gamble on Kyle Anderson. However, I wouldn’t have gone any higher on SloMo than the tax-payer MLE ($5,168,000) (and Anderson is worth that) — Okogie is a worse player and he got offered much more.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, since PHO is over the 2nd apron, they can not combine outgoing players, right? Who would trade for JO and that $8M salary just to make PHO better? I don't like that addition, but I'm not an NBA GM/POBO either.
Klomp wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:I wonder if they are looking to do something like what Dallas did at the trade deadline. Looking for someone who another team might want to move off of. In the grand scheme of things, someone making $8,250,000 is not untradeable.
I think the harder part is finding someone making 8M or less that can jump into their rotation.
It's not as hard as you might think.
From the Suns board:The official numbers on Okogie's deal - 8.25 million on his first year.
16 players who make between Little's 6.75 million and Okogie's 8.25. These are now the players we are (legally) allowed to trade for, that we couldn't with Little's contract alone:
Ron Holland
Cody Martin
Jock Landale
Trey Lyles
Kevon Looney
Jaden Ivey
Vasilije Micic
Jonathan Kuminga
Anthony Black
Tidjane Salaun
Ben Mathurin
Jae'Sean Tate
Franz Wagner
Ayo Dosunmu
Bilal Coulibaly.
Donovan Clingan
Realistically, out of this list, it's basically Cody Martin, Looney, Micic and Dosunmu who could be trade targets.
Dosunmu would make the most sense - good defender, and his 3-ball is improving. Wouldn't trade the 2031 for him tho. Not sure Chicago would do it for Okogie + two 2nds
Of course, the other guys making less than 6.75 million are also still available to us. Okogie's expiring deal is probably a lot more enticing than Little's contract, which has 2 more years to go after this year.
So I think the likes of Corey Kispert, Nick Richards, Dean Wade, Tre Mann, Isaiah Jackson, Day'ron Sharpe, Santi Aldama could all be realistic targets.
It wouldn’t be surprising if the NBA, in an effort to avoid an arbitration hearing over Timberwolves-Lynx ownership with Glen Taylor, offers the Alex Rodriguez-Mark Lore tandem that initially agreed to buy the teams for $1.5 billion, first chance at an expansion team in Seattle, where Rodriguez was a popular player with the Mariners.
Charley Walters – Pioneer Press
It wouldn’t be surprising if the NBA, in an effort to avoid an arbitration hearing over Timberwolves-Lynx ownership with Glen Taylor, offers the Alex Rodriguez-Mark Lore tandem that initially agreed to buy the teams for $1.5 billion, first chance at an expansion team in Seattle, where Rodriguez was a popular player with the Mariners.
In any deal, it would expected that Taylor buys out Rodriguez-Lore’s 40 percent investment at nearly double what the pair initially paid because of the dramatically increased value of the franchises the past three years, especially after the NBA’s new media deal last week, apparently worth $76 billion (that’s billion, not million) over 11 years.
The reason the value of NBA teams has exploded is because basketball has become a popular international sport. More than a fifth of the league’s recent first-round draft picks were international players; the same for the second round.
Saltine wrote:
Charley hasn't had a scoop in a decade. He was the fool pushing Towns to NY trades all offsesason....It wouldn’t be surprising if the NBA, in an effort to avoid an arbitration hearing over Timberwolves-Lynx ownership with Glen Taylor, offers the Alex Rodriguez-Mark Lore tandem that initially agreed to buy the teams for $1.5 billion, first chance at an expansion team in Seattle, where Rodriguez was a popular player with the Mariners.
In any deal, it would expected that Taylor buys out Rodriguez-Lore’s 40 percent investment at nearly double what the pair initially paid because of the dramatically increased value of the franchises the past three years, especially after the NBA’s new media deal last week, apparently worth $76 billion (that’s billion, not million) over 11 years.
The reason the value of NBA teams has exploded is because basketball has become a popular international sport. More than a fifth of the league’s recent first-round draft picks were international players; the same for the second round.
https://www.twincities.com/2024/07/13/charley-walters-from-start-mauer-had-cooperstown-potential/
jpatrick wrote:Saltine wrote:
Charley hasn't had a scoop in a decade. He was the fool pushing Towns to NY trades all offsesason....It wouldn’t be surprising if the NBA, in an effort to avoid an arbitration hearing over Timberwolves-Lynx ownership with Glen Taylor, offers the Alex Rodriguez-Mark Lore tandem that initially agreed to buy the teams for $1.5 billion, first chance at an expansion team in Seattle, where Rodriguez was a popular player with the Mariners.
In any deal, it would expected that Taylor buys out Rodriguez-Lore’s 40 percent investment at nearly double what the pair initially paid because of the dramatically increased value of the franchises the past three years, especially after the NBA’s new media deal last week, apparently worth $76 billion (that’s billion, not million) over 11 years.
The reason the value of NBA teams has exploded is because basketball has become a popular international sport. More than a fifth of the league’s recent first-round draft picks were international players; the same for the second round.
https://www.twincities.com/2024/07/13/charley-walters-from-start-mauer-had-cooperstown-potential/
This is absolute made up nonsense. How do I know? First, it’s from Charley Walters, who is a joke. Second, Arod/Lore bought the Wolves for 1.5 billion, a crazy bargain, as the Wolves are worth more than double that. The Seattle expansion franchise will probably sell for between 4-6 billion. Why would Arod/Lore agree to pay more than double for a different franchise? And the other NBA owners aren’t going to sell a franchise for a discount, which puts less money in their pockets now and also devalues their franchises slightly. Not going to happen.
minimus wrote:
I am more impressed by Klintman passing.
P.S. You cant win it all, but damn, I already hate that trade
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Saltine wrote:I dont think Charley has much of a rep, not a good one anyway, lol
Klomp wrote:minimus wrote:
I am more impressed by Klintman passing.
P.S. You cant win it all, but damn, I already hate that trade
If you want a few player comps for him, I see Trey Lyles, Adreian Payne, Zeke Nnaji, etc. He might give them production, but not someone I worry about.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
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