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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1981 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:07 pm

Luv those Knicks wrote:Did you guys hear, maybe it's in the thread. Biden has COVID. Positive test / mild symptoms.


This would be his 3rd time catching it. Not good.

I really wish the Democrats didn't lollygag for 4 f*cking years. Biden had a contentious call with House Dems on Saturday before Trump got shot. If they wanted Biden to not run again they should have aggressively vetted the field for a replacement. Instead they wait less than 4 months before the election and now dude has Covid. Hopefully it's mild and he'll be fine, but 80 year old men catching Covid is never good
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1982 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:09 pm

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It could have been a lot worse. Trump would have fought interest rate hikes that ultimately curbed the spike. He would have actively fought slowing the economy. Maybe less public money in the system but maybe not as the first package came under his watch. Trump is not fiscal conservative.


Trump is frothing at the mouth to kick Jerome Powell out to replace him with Jamie Dimon I heard. That should tell you everything.

Trump isn't even a conservative. Outside of authoritarianism and fascism he has no consistent ideology that he's beholden too. Whatever serves him at the moment.


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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1983 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:13 pm

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Or, and hear me out guys, _Vice_ President Harris.

I think Newsom is a non-starter. As you say, the guy running Cali is a hard sell outside the coasts.


I would absolutely support VP Harris.

My concern? People have like seriously irrational hate for Harris on both sides. It's like Hillary 2.0 and she doesn't even have 1/10th of the baggage. It sucks


I like Harris. I wouldn't say that she's my favorite politician or anything. I don't know her that well, but she seems fine and competent. I don't understand the strong dislike for her either. I think part of it was she was a former prosecutor, but I've never heard any stories of anything outrageous she did. Maybe they're out there, but I've not heard any.


Her prosecutor background is why folks on the left don't like her. I am not holding that against her, it was her job.

To be honest, i think the whole "Kamala is a cop!" thing is just thinly veiled misogyny against a an accomplished Black woman. Her resume and credentials are enough for me personally, can't speak for others.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1984 » by Capn'O » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:14 pm

What a dingbat. They're going to cut because inflation's back down. Does that line up with the election? Yeah. The policy worked.

I don't know if I could take four more years of his idiocy.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1985 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:18 pm

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I would gladly support Newsome but I'm a dirty coastal elite liberal. Whitmer seems like she would pull in the swing states


Or, and hear me out guys, _Vice_ President Harris.

I think Newsom is a non-starter. As you say, the guy running Cali is a hard sell outside the coasts.


I would absolutely support VP Harris.

My concern? People have like seriously irrational hate for Harris on both sides. It's like Hillary 2.0 and she doesn't even have 1/10th of the baggage. It sucks


I’m fine with Harris.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1986 » by Capn'O » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:18 pm

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I would absolutely support VP Harris.

My concern? People have like seriously irrational hate for Harris on both sides. It's like Hillary 2.0 and she doesn't even have 1/10th of the baggage. It sucks


I like Harris. I wouldn't say that she's my favorite politician or anything. I don't know her that well, but she seems fine and competent. I don't understand the strong dislike for her either. I think part of it was she was a former prosecutor, but I've never heard any stories of anything outrageous she did. Maybe they're out there, but I've not heard any.


Her prosecutor background is why folks on the left don't like her. I am not holding that against her, it was her job.

To be honest, i think the whole "Kamala is a cop!" thing is just thinly veiled misogyny against a an accomplished Black woman. Her resume and credentials are enough for me personally, can't speak for others.


It's a big piece of it. Thinly veiled identity attacks certainly feed the impression that she's unliked.

As for her record as a prosecutor, she was doing her job then. Now, as Senator, and as Prez she has a different job.

In her new jobs, she says stuff like:
No one should go to jail for 'smoking weed


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-vp-harris-talk-marijuana-reform-white-house-friday-2024-03-15/
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1987 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:25 pm

Capn'O wrote:What a dingbat. They're going to cut because inflation's back down. I don't know if I could take four more years of this idiocy.


He pressured/threatened them back in office to artificially juice the economy pre pandemic. Which is another reason we had issues with the spike in inflation. Ridiculously low rates has nowhere to go but up!

The dude is an unmitigated disaster for this country! His cult is stashed away from actual facts and truth in their Fox/OAN etc bubbles. It's a disgrace what the media and this tyrant are trying to do to this country.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1988 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:27 pm

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As a hater of the current GOP, I have to say this video is trash.
1) Taco Bell is awesome
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"Dating" was my first thought :lol:

Somebody didn't pay up. He's got a wife and family too. Or had. Shame.


Yeah exactly :lol: "dating" means he was booking her.

Prostitution is pretty much out in the open on Twitter now that Musk has made it 4chan 2.0. Onlyfans models routinely offer opportunities for guys to "book their services" on there because if they get caught on OnlyFans selling pussy they'll get banned.

Don't ask me how i know that.

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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1989 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:27 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Luv those Knicks wrote:
I like Harris. I wouldn't say that she's my favorite politician or anything. I don't know her that well, but she seems fine and competent. I don't understand the strong dislike for her either. I think part of it was she was a former prosecutor, but I've never heard any stories of anything outrageous she did. Maybe they're out there, but I've not heard any.


Her prosecutor background is why folks on the left don't like her. I am not holding that against her, it was her job.

To be honest, i think the whole "Kamala is a cop!" thing is just thinly veiled misogyny against a an accomplished Black woman. Her resume and credentials are enough for me personally, can't speak for others.


It's a big piece of it. Thinly veiled identity attacks certainly feed the impression that she's unliked.

As for her record as a prosecutor, she was doing her job then. Now, as Senator, and as Prez she has a different job.

In her new jobs, she says stuff like:
No one should go to jail for 'smoking weed


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-vp-harris-talk-marijuana-reform-white-house-friday-2024-03-15/


Not to mention the climate and attitudes in America towards weed today are waaaay different than it was when she was a prosecutor.

I think as President she would work to fix to completely decriminalize it because she knows full well how absurd it is to lock people up for it
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1990 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:28 pm

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Newsom would wipe the floor with Trump. He may be a little full of himself but he went onto Fox ”news” and kicked Sean Hannity’s ass in a debate. He’s an excellent communicator.


There would not be a debate though.

With the debate structure this year anyhow -- not even sure how much one would be worth as long as people don't freeze and have a stroke.


I’m not sure what you’re referring to by “the debate structure.”

Newsom would probably make the proposal for one. Even if there’s no debate, Newsom, or whoever would be the nominee, could at least campaign across the country giving speeches and doing press conferences in ways that Biden can’t anymore.


It used to be that presidential candidates would go to the debates. There was none of this WWE cat and mouse where everyone had to get their requirements met.
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Post#1991 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:30 pm

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LOL. If it was that easy, then government could just start and stop inflation.

The free market determines the economy far more than the president. Oil prices went up because of the Ukraine war and companies were waiting for the end of covid and people returning to work in larger numbers to kick up prices.

But I'll meet you halfway. The covid stimulus package, which was written in congress, but Biden put his name on it, did add to inflation, but it wasn't the sole cause.

This is pretty good summary.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/apr/20/jane-timken/bidens-american-rescue-plan-fueled-inflation-so-di/

Removing liquidity once you've added it involves taking from someone. That can certainly be done easily, but is very difficult politically.

This is done gradually through raising of interest rates that slows down the creation of new debt (money) and reduction in government spending. This takes time.

There are a lot of good sources on this topic and economics in general.


That's true, but what irritates the crap out of me is how everyone says inflation is Biden's fault. Like it wouldn't have happened under Trump. It would have. Maybe 7% instead of 8%, but it still happens.

They put too much into the COVID recovery package, but people don't have crystal balls. Add to that, the war in Ukraine which spiked gas prices and corporations eager to make record profits post COVID and the inflation was bad, and it's already showing signs that the problem has been fixed. Prices can't go up forever.

Inflation was inevitable when the government needed to support people who weren't allowed to work. This of course should have been greatly limited if things were opened up sooner. I think it's fair to question how much of a difference Trump would have made, but that would be because the media and Dems would accuse him of trying to kill grandma.

We are just dealing with two very opposing worldviews. One that seeks the best possible outcomes, and one that seeks the most emotionally satisfying ideas. I agree that inflation isn't Biden's fault. It's ultimately the fault of an immoral population who simply want what they want and don't want to hear that everything in life is a trade off.

The honest thing to do would have been to say that we can support the public now, but the more and longer we do this, the higher inflation will be shown the road. That was the only outcome. But of course no politician from either side can say that today. A real shame. Most people hate the truth.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1992 » by Luv those Knicks » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:30 pm

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Not to mention the climate and attitudes in America towards weed today are waaaay different than it was when she was a prosecutor.

I think as President she would work to fix to completely decriminalize it because she knows full well how absurd it is to lock people up for it


I like her better than Biden. :D
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1993 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:32 pm

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I’m not sure what you’re referring to by “the debate structure.”

Newsom would probably make the proposal for one. Even if there’s no debate, Newsom, or whoever would be the nominee, could at least campaign across the country giving speeches and doing press conferences in ways that Biden can’t anymore.


I would gladly support Newsome but I'm a dirty coastal elite liberal. Whitmer seems like she would pull in the swing states


Or, and hear me out guys, _Vice_ President Harris.

I think Newsom is a non-starter. As you say, the guy running Cali is a hard sell outside the coasts.


I read an article online, so it has to be true, that said that African Americans would be pissed if Harris was passed up on for a white guy.

Optics of a glass ceiling would be rampant if Biden was replaced and Harris was not the replacement.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1994 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:36 pm

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Not to mention the climate and attitudes in America towards weed today are waaaay different than it was when she was a prosecutor.

I think as President she would work to fix to completely decriminalize it because she knows full well how absurd it is to lock people up for it


I like her better than Biden. :D


I do too tbh. Nothing against Joe mind you, but I really like liked how much of a hard ass she was in the Senate.

I'm also biased because she's a fellow Caribbean American whose parents were immigrants like mine. Is she not what America is all about?
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1995 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:38 pm

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I would gladly support Newsome but I'm a dirty coastal elite liberal. Whitmer seems like she would pull in the swing states


Or, and hear me out guys, _Vice_ President Harris.

I think Newsom is a non-starter. As you say, the guy running Cali is a hard sell outside the coasts.


I read an article online, so it has to be true, that said that African Americans would be pissed if Harris was passed up on for a white guy.

Optics of a glass ceiling would be rampant if Biden was replaced and Harris was not the replacement.


Depending on polling, I wouldn't be upset if someone else got the nod. I think the well on both the left and right have been poisoned against her.

I can't help but notice that anytime a female Democrat politician gains steam the vultures come out for them on both sides. Whitmer seems to be immune which is why I would support her if she wants to step up.
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Post#1996 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:39 pm

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Corporations have seen record profits during this period due to jacked up prices. I too wish I could afford to be this detached from reality

Lol even the exact verbiage regurgitated verbatim from the media. Have you verified if that's true? What companies have had record profits? All of them? Are these record profits adjusted for the massive amounts of inflation? You've looked into that correct?


Here you go:

https://www.kansascityfed.org/research/economic-review/how-much-have-record-corporate-profits-contributed-to-recent-inflation/


I'll grant you this much. It's a dicy subject to tell companies that "you can't profit because it increases inflation" - which it ABSOLUTELY does. But there's nothing wrong with giving corporations there share of the blame when inflation happens and they are a key part of it. If we're not allowed to speak the truth, what are we allowed to do?

This article was just a fancy way to say the companies raised prices in anticipation of higher costs due to actual inflation aka the increase in money supply. These price increases were not due to any sort of advantage in the marketplace they were exploiting.

In short, the price increases were necessary.

And just to be clear. This record profit narrative is said to erase any blame from the government. The money supply was increased. That's why prices increased across the board. That is why everyone, including workers are making 'record incomes' while actually having less spending power. These people are very clever. I have to hand it to them...
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Post#1997 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:44 pm

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Or, and hear me out guys, _Vice_ President Harris.

I think Newsom is a non-starter. As you say, the guy running Cali is a hard sell outside the coasts.


I read an article online, so it has to be true, that said that African Americans would be pissed if Harris was passed up on for a white guy.

Optics of a glass ceiling would be rampant if Biden was replaced and Harris was not the replacement.


Depending on polling, I wouldn't be upset if someone else got the nod. I think the well on both the left and right have been poisoned against her.

I can't help but notice that anytime a female Democrat politician gains steam the vultures come out for them on both sides. Whitmer seems to be immune which is why I would support her if she wants to step up.


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Post#1998 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:46 pm

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I read an article online, so it has to be true, that said that African Americans would be pissed if Harris was passed up on for a white guy.

Optics of a glass ceiling would be rampant if Biden was replaced and Harris was not the replacement.


Depending on polling, I wouldn't be upset if someone else got the nod. I think the well on both the left and right have been poisoned against her.

I can't help but notice that anytime a female Democrat politician gains steam the vultures come out for them on both sides. Whitmer seems to be immune which is why I would support her if she wants to step up.


Harris/Whitmer 2024. All female ticket!


I prefer Harris/Fetterman, but there is a chance that ticket could crash
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Post#1999 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:51 pm

I would vote for a liverwurst and dog shyt sammich over Trump/Vance.
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Post#2000 » by spree8 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:52 pm

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Her prosecutor background is why folks on the left don't like her. I am not holding that against her, it was her job.

To be honest, i think the whole "Kamala is a cop!" thing is just thinly veiled misogyny against a an accomplished Black woman. Her resume and credentials are enough for me personally, can't speak for others.


It's a big piece of it. Thinly veiled identity attacks certainly feed the impression that she's unliked.

As for her record as a prosecutor, she was doing her job then. Now, as Senator, and as Prez she has a different job.

In her new jobs, she says stuff like:
No one should go to jail for 'smoking weed


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-vp-harris-talk-marijuana-reform-white-house-friday-2024-03-15/


Not to mention the climate and attitudes in America towards weed today are waaaay different than it was when she was a prosecutor.

I think as President she would work to fix to completely decriminalize it because she knows full well how absurd it is to lock people up for it



It’s just really hypocritical because she admitted to smoking weed in college and then ruins people’s lives for doing the same. She even opposed legalizing it in 2010. I personally can’t get behind that… looking at her record as a prosecutor is scary too. Seems like she’s part of the machine to me…

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