Markelle Fultz Appreciation Thread

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I'm surprised so many people still state as a matter of fact or common knowledge that he suffered a recurrence of an injury last season or his body just didn't hold up. Unless I missed something, I don't believe anything like that was ever reported. Of course that might be what happened, but does anyone know that definitively? Isn't it just as likely that it was a mental thing, like when golfers get the yips? We've seen it with free-throw shooting before, where the player has more time to think about the shot rather than just shoot on muscle memory. There are members of the media in Philly who speculated that was the problem all along. And isn't it a little weird that no one, including Markelle, ever said an injury caused his shot to go completely off the rails last season? In today's game, a PG who literally stops attempting threes with no explanation is not something that happens every day. If it was as simple as "that old shoulder issue" wouldn't someone have said that? Again, I'm not saying it wasn't physical, I'm just saying I'm not aware of any evidence to support that assumption.

When a player gains a following, and they end up sucking, it has everything to do with anything unrelated to their skill set.

Fultz was a decisive figure here, but I don’t know how he couldn’t be considering he was top 2-3 highest paid players on the roster and was of marginal consequence his entire time in Orlando.

The fact he hasn’t signed with anyone yet should tell you everything.

Actually, his performance so far should tell us everything, not what happens from this point forward. In any case, he is a good guy how ever you spin it. Many of you know I wasn't his biggest fan last season or two, but Markelle gets nothing but respect and best wishes from me.

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I'm surprised so many people still state as a matter of fact or common knowledge that he suffered a recurrence of an injury last season or his body just didn't hold up. Unless I missed something, I don't believe anything like that was ever reported. Of course that might be what happened, but does anyone know that definitively? Isn't it just as likely that it was a mental thing, like when golfers get the yips? We've seen it with free-throw shooting before, where the player has more time to think about the shot rather than just shoot on muscle memory. There are members of the media in Philly who speculated that was the problem all along. And isn't it a little weird that no one, including Markelle, ever said an injury caused his shot to go completely off the rails last season? In today's game, a PG who literally stops attempting threes with no explanation is not something that happens every day. If it was as simple as "that old shoulder issue" wouldn't someone have said that? Again, I'm not saying it wasn't physical, I'm just saying I'm not aware of any evidence to support that assumption.

When a player gains a following, and they end up sucking, it has everything to do with anything unrelated to their skill set.

Fultz was a decisive figure here, but I don’t know how he couldn’t be considering he was top 2-3 highest paid players on the roster and was of marginal consequence his entire time in Orlando.

The fact he hasn’t signed with anyone yet should tell you everything.

Actually, his performance so far should tell us everything, not what happens from this point forward. In any case, he is a good guy how ever you spin it. Many of you know I wasn't his biggest fan last season or two, but Markelle gets nothing but respect and best wishes from me.

Never said he wasn't a good guy.

I wish him luck.

His "injuries" and availability don't change the fact that he cost us Maxey and he was 100% undeserving of his last contract. This roster still doesn't have a starting point guard because this FO settled on Fultz for way too long.

[JoshuaPotter]

When a player gains a following, and they end up sucking, it has everything to do with anything unrelated to their skill set.

Fultz was a decisive figure here, but I don’t know how he couldn’t be considering he was top 2-3 highest paid players on the roster and was of marginal consequence his entire time in Orlando.

The fact he hasn’t signed with anyone yet should tell you everything.

Actually, his performance so far should tell us everything, not what happens from this point forward. In any case, he is a good guy how ever you spin it. Many of you know I wasn't his biggest fan last season or two, but Markelle gets nothing but respect and best wishes from me.

Never said he wasn't a good guy.

I wish him luck.

His "injuries" and availability don't change the fact that he cost us Maxey and he was 100% undeserving of his last contract. This roster still doesn't have a starting point guard because this FO settled on Fultz for way too long.

To be fair. I appreciate Fultz and in no way am upset with him making money.

This dumpster fire of a sittuation was all management. Good news I guess we ended up with Paolo / Franz / Suggs and we can argue now about how they are mistreating player a/b/c.

[The-Stallion70]

Injuries can really **** up an entire players career. Testament to his baseline of talent that he still averaged 14 and 5 on solid efficiency that one year despite not being able to raise his arms above his shoulders some days.

Baseball pitchers lose their entire careers to TOS. When I learned that Markelle had gone to 28 doctors before he found one quack who knew what was going on and that he eventually started working with the same therapist who worked Kobe abd his rotator cuff injury, I knew his thing was serious.

Then he blew his knee out too. ****

Guy looked like a 6'4 215 Steph Curry in the 2017 Summer League.

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Injuries can really **** up an entire players career. Testament to his baseline of talent that he still averaged 14 and 5 on solid efficiency that one year despite not being able to raise his arms above his shoulders some days.

Baseball pitchers lose their entire careers to TOS. When I learned that Markelle had gone to 28 doctors before he found one quack who knew what was going on and that he eventually started working with the same therapist who worked Kobe abd his rotator cuff injury, I knew his thing was serious.

Then he blew his knee out too. ****

Guy looked like a 6'4 215 Steph Curry in the 2017 Summer League.

Bro was 1 injury away from being prime Michael Jordan. Too bad for those pesky injuries.

Remind me again, did Orlando trade for him before or after he looked like dog water?

Anyway.. Im bowing out of this thread.

Good luck to Markelle in Israel, China, or wherever he ends up. You are welcome for all the money you made sitting on the bench while the Magic media blew you for being a meme.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I'm surprised so many people still state as a matter of fact or common knowledge that he suffered a recurrence of an injury last season or his body just didn't hold up. Unless I missed something, I don't believe anything like that was ever reported. Of course that might be what happened, but does anyone know that definitively? Isn't it just as likely that it was a mental thing, like when golfers get the yips? We've seen it with free-throw shooting before, where the player has more time to think about the shot rather than just shoot on muscle memory. There are members of the media in Philly who speculated that was the problem all along. And isn't it a little weird that no one, including Markelle, ever said an injury caused his shot to go completely off the rails last season? In today's game, a PG who literally stops attempting threes with no explanation is not something that happens every day. If it was as simple as "that old shoulder issue" wouldn't someone have said that? Again, I'm not saying it wasn't physical, I'm just saying I'm not aware of any evidence to support that assumption.

our media is an absolute joke and has been for a long time. No one is going to ask the tough questions and if they do they get slapped around and credentials taken away for a bit.

The BIGGER issue is that the FO knew at the beginning of the year MF was an issue and still had him playing over AB. Then AB had to play due to injuries and he looked solid, once everyone came back he got put back into playing time jail for MF who was clearly broken. There's 0 logical explanation why MF was getting minutes over AB except the FO was too scared to make a **** decision.
Waste of 1 year for AB and continues to prove the point that this FO is so risk averse and would rather just do the easy thing.

[The-Stallion70]

I'm surprised so many people still state as a matter of fact or common knowledge that he suffered a recurrence of an injury last season or his body just didn't hold up. Unless I missed something

I would pay closer attention then. He reaggrevated his knee after 5 games.

https://clutchpoints.com/magic-news-orlando-markelle-fultz-injury-jazz

[fendilim]

Yips? No.

TOS? Yes.

[The-Stallion70]

Injuries can really **** up an entire players career. Testament to his baseline of talent that he still averaged 14 and 5 on solid efficiency that one year despite not being able to raise his arms above his shoulders some days.

Baseball pitchers lose their entire careers to TOS. When I learned that Markelle had gone to 28 doctors before he found one quack who knew what was going on and that he eventually started working with the same therapist who worked Kobe abd his rotator cuff injury, I knew his thing was serious.

Then he blew his knee out too. ****

Guy looked like a 6'4 215 Steph Curry in the 2017 Summer League.

Bro was 1 injury away from being prime Michael Jordan. Too bad for those pesky injuries.

Remind me again, did Orlando trade for him before or after he looked like dog water?

Anyway.. Im bowing out of this thread.

Good luck to Markelle in Israel, China, or wherever he ends up. You are welcome for all the money you made sitting on the bench while the Magic media blew you for being a meme.

Your inability to grasp facts is entertaining. The overachiever Jalen Suggs certainly couldn't play in the NBA at all if he lost his ability to shoot.

[SOUL]

Thread goes so predictably lol

[anothermagicfan]

Markelle Fultz I enjoyed being a fan of you on the Orlando Magic.

Who knows, maybe you'll be back someday?

[cedric76]

You'll be missed kelle

[Audi]

It's fascinating that so many Twitter posters are saying that Fultz is one of their absolute favs. How is that possible?

I mean, it's more understandable when you consider how unique his style of play is. The way he couples ball handling with unpredictable, herky-jerky movements and drastically varying speeds is pretty unparalleled. *If* that style appeals to you, he was just a knock down distance shooter away from stardom. If he had the shooting that he had coming in to the league, I think he would've certainly reached the ceiling he had. To be honest, I can't really think of a good comp for his controlled-yet-chaotic, spastic-yet-fluid style - can you? Mayyybee CP3? Couple that memorable uniqueness with knock down shooting - that's a star.

Injuries didn't just take his shot away, they also robbed we basketball fans of a seeing a truly unique player get to showcase. There's nothing really more to say about it. That either makes you a bit dismissive or a bit depressed…and between the irrational haters and lovers, I think that's the spectrum where the general fan feelings on Fultz falls.

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It's never too late to lock a thread before eulogy gets too ugly.

[pepe1991]

Fultz literally never was good basketball player in NBA. Like. Ever.
He was empty calories guy at college and got overdrafted (Tatum trade is easly one of worst lottery f***ups ever, by any franchise and franchise altering mistake by 76ers) .
He was 56% TS- 31% usage guy on 9-22 college team

Even whole "no help" thing was overblown.
His teammates- David Crips- turned pro, plays in Denmark in first tear league, Noah Dickenson - turned pro, plays in first division of Swiss league, Malik Dime really played everywhere as pro, now signed with Granada ( Spanish league) and that's probably, from national perspective, second best league in the world ( Euroleague being second best league, but that's multinational competition ).


Anyway, back to Fultz.
Rookie year- 14 games played. Nobody knew what's up with him.
Second year- 19 games played. Still nobody knew what's wrong with him
Third year - 12 ppg on 70 games
Fourth year - 8 games played
Fifth year- 18 games played
Sixth year - 60 games- 14 ppg
Seventh year- 43 games - 7,8 ppg

Cumulatve 11 ppg on 33 games a year, 51% TS. On his best day, he is stop gap backup PG on serious team, or backup on team that can't afford anybody better ( if he accepts to be vets minimum player ).
If you take in considirations somebody traded Tatum for him, all the expetations of 1# pick, constant injuries and excuses, him telling how he will shoot more 3s ( to shoot 4/18 very next year) , no wonder nobody wants him.

Fultz myth among twitter/ some real gm people and reality are two separated realities.

[eyriq]

Fultz literally never was good basketball player in NBA. Like. Ever.
He was empty calories guy at college and got overdrafted (Tatum trade is easly one of worst lottery f***ups ever, by any franchise and franchise altering mistake by 76ers) .
He was 56% TS- 31% usage guy on 9-22 college team

Even whole "no help" thing was overblown.
His teammates- David Crips- turned pro, plays in Denmark in first tear league, Noah Dickenson - turned pro, plays in first division of Swiss league, Malik Dime really played everywhere as pro, now signed with Granada ( Spanish league) and that's probably, from national perspective, second best league in the world ( Euroleague being second best league, but that's multinational competition ).


Anyway, back to Fultz.
Rookie year- 14 games played. Nobody knew what's up with him.
Second year- 19 games played. Still nobody knew what's wrong with him
Third year - 12 ppg on 70 games
Fourth year - 8 games played
Fifth year- 18 games played
Sixth year - 60 games- 14 ppg
Seventh year- 43 games - 7,8 ppg

Cumulatve 11 ppg on 33 games a year, 51% TS. On his best day, he is stop gap backup PG on serious team, or backup on team that can't afford anybody better ( if he accepts to be vets minimum player ).
If you take in considirations somebody traded Tatum for him, all the expetations of 1# pick, constant injuries and excuses, him telling how he will shoot more 3s ( to shoot 4/18 very next year) , no wonder nobody wants him.

Fultz myth among twitter/ some real gm people and reality are two separated realities.

As a college prospect he was legit. His NBA career has been a mixed bag. Chronic availability issues. He's damaged goods and it has capped his ceiling. Upside is a bottom ten starter. I'm curious to see what the rest of his career looks like. I'm retrospect, trading for him was a Weltman loss. Though looking back at the re-tool the move makes sense. We needed to catch lightning in a bottle to make that build work.

[fendilim]

Fultz was good in college, too bad his tos derailed his career.

So has any team signed him yet?

[zaymon]

Fultz was good in college, too bad his tos derailed his career.

So has any team signed him yet?

Mayo Clinic

[JF5]

Fultz literally never was good basketball player in NBA. Like. Ever.
He was empty calories guy at college and got overdrafted (Tatum trade is easly one of worst lottery f***ups ever, by any franchise and franchise altering mistake by 76ers) .
He was 56% TS- 31% usage guy on 9-22 college team

Even whole "no help" thing was overblown.
His teammates- David Crips- turned pro, plays in Denmark in first tear league, Noah Dickenson - turned pro, plays in first division of Swiss league, Malik Dime really played everywhere as pro, now signed with Granada ( Spanish league) and that's probably, from national perspective, second best league in the world ( Euroleague being second best league, but that's multinational competition ).


Anyway, back to Fultz.
Rookie year- 14 games played. Nobody knew what's up with him.
Second year- 19 games played. Still nobody knew what's wrong with him
Third year - 12 ppg on 70 games
Fourth year - 8 games played
Fifth year- 18 games played
Sixth year - 60 games- 14 ppg
Seventh year- 43 games - 7,8 ppg

Cumulatve 11 ppg on 33 games a year, 51% TS. On his best day, he is stop gap backup PG on serious team, or backup on team that can't afford anybody better ( if he accepts to be vets minimum player ).
If you take in considirations somebody traded Tatum for him, all the expetations of 1# pick, constant injuries and excuses, him telling how he will shoot more 3s ( to shoot 4/18 very next year) , no wonder nobody wants him.

Fultz myth among twitter/ some real gm people and reality are two separated realities.

It's obvious if the injuries didn't get in the way he would've been a star in the league.

You could see glimpses of it here and he was around 30-40 percent of what he could've been. He could control the game and has a very high BBIQ that made him a borderline starter without a jumpshot.


It's just his body was not made to play basketball at a high level unfortunately. Wish him the best going forward.

[eyriq]

AB>Fultz