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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1441 » by Parliament10 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:25 pm

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Hal14 wrote:We might need to have a competiton in training camp for that 2-way spot between JD and House.

Winner gets the 2-way..loser is a maine celtics affiliate..


You think they'd gives both guys significant minutes at Maine? I think it's a one or other situation.

I'd give House a Two-Way. He might take the Waive and become an Affiliate, as well.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1442 » by lon3lytoaster » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:25 pm

phincsfan wrote:Whoever mentioned the Walsh and Gerald Green comp, good job. The only difference was Green was o was flying all over the place without a care in the w world. Walsh is playing scared and it’s in his head right now.


Young Gerald Green was such an enigma. One of the best vertical athletes ever, horrible laterally and horizontally. But compared to Walsh he was an offensive dynamo.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1443 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:27 pm

darrendaye wrote:
Hal14 wrote:We might need to have a competiton in training camp for that 2-way spot between JD and House.

Winner gets the 2-way..loser is a maine celtics affiliate..


You think they'd gives both guys significant minutes at Maine? I think it's a one or other situation.

I don't see why not.

House is more of a 2-guard than a PG.

Last year we had 2 small guards playing heavy mins in Maine - JD and DJ Steward.

JD is more of an offensive player/facilitator..House is more of a defensive player..
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1444 » by Parliament10 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:29 pm

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darrendaye wrote:
Hal14 wrote:We might need to have a competiton in training camp for that 2-way spot between JD and House.

Winner gets the 2-way..loser is a maine celtics affiliate..


You think they'd gives both guys significant minutes at Maine? I think it's a one or other situation.

I don't see why not.

House is more of a 2-guard than a PG.

Last year we had 2 small guards playing heavy mins in Maine - JD and DJ Steward.

JD is more of an offensive player/facilitator..House is more of a defensive player..

I'd much rather give House 1 year on a Two-Way, than Davison on a 3rd year.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1445 » by phincsfan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:30 pm

What sucks about Walsh's SL play is he isn't even showcasing himself to any other team. If you're another scout are you really interested in what you see? This is why Maine is so tough for raw and I hate to say it low iq players like Walsh. Last summer he played like a 19 year old who just got drafted, but he gave great effort. Right now it's like paralysis by analysis with him.
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Post#1446 » by threrf23 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:30 pm

phincsfan wrote:Whoever mentioned the Walsh and Gerald Green comp, good job. The only difference was Green was o was flying all over the place without a care in the w world. Walsh is playing scared and it’s in his head right now.


Sophomore slump?

I was thinking (last year) Corey Brewer, Matt Barnes, Jaime Jacquez. Brewer is a passable statistical comp and his scouting capsules read very similar to Walsh's, similar strengths and weaknesses. Barnes is a better fit from a physical standpoint, and was a scrappy, high motor defender who entered the league kind of raw but had enough talent to develop into something better. Jacquez comp was mostly statistical (but a very close comp in that context).

These are guys who had (or project to have) a long NBA career, can't really ask for more than that with the 45th pick. There are also guys who entered the league later than Walsh did and still took some time to develop.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1447 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:30 pm

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darrendaye wrote:
Hal14 wrote:We might need to have a competiton in training camp for that 2-way spot between JD and House.

Winner gets the 2-way..loser is a maine celtics affiliate..


You think they'd gives both guys significant minutes at Maine? I think it's a one or other situation.

I don't see why not.

House is more of a 2-guard than a PG.

Last year we had 2 small guards playing heavy mins in Maine - JD and DJ Steward.

JD is more of an offensive player/facilitator..House is more of a defensive player..


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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1448 » by phincsfan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:32 pm

lon3lytoaster wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Whoever mentioned the Walsh and Gerald Green comp, good job. The only difference was Green was o was flying all over the place without a care in the w world. Walsh is playing scared and it’s in his head right now.


Young Gerald Green was such an enigma. One of the best vertical athletes ever, horrible laterally and horizontally. But compared to Walsh he was an offensive dynamo.


Absolutely, and at least he was part of the KG trade. He had some value :D
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1449 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:33 pm

Is it crazy to think we might waive Walsh?

He's only a $1.8mil cap hit for this season.

Also looks like about a $2 mil cap hit for next season too.

I guess waiving him probably won't happen but maybe we just try to dump him on someone in a trade? Otherwise it looks like it could be a waste of a roster spot.

And we might be leaving the 15th roster spot open again, so that would be 2 wasted roster spots..with KP out for half the season..
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1450 » by Homerclease » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:34 pm

Walsh blows, after Springers celebrity appearance and Queta, JD Davidson has been the best player on the team this summer league and it’s showing today.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1451 » by playa-hater » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:35 pm

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Hal14 wrote:I thought Walsh was gonna finally make a 3, when he was wide open on the sideline out of bounds play. But it was WAY off.

Man, what a rough shooting performance this SL for him..it's gotta be in his head at this point.


I feel bad for him, but this is turning into Grant rookie season, Ben Simmons level stuff.

I mean, he's still young -- but he's older than GG Jackson. :cry:


No not Ben Simmons. Walsh can not make a 3 into the Ocean.. But Ben doesn't even go near the beach. 8-)

When Boston drafted Walsh, I was a bit surprised but did buy into his potential based on what I saw early last year. Clearly he not only hasn't Progressed, but possibly became much worse. Not even a sign of anything positive offensively.

And before Boston drafted, I made it clear that GG Jackson was my top pick. GG showed a nice natural shooting touch in college . Walsh never really did.

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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1452 » by Dogen » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:36 pm

Accentuating the positive: 8 boards for Walsh!
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1453 » by phincsfan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:37 pm

threrf23 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Whoever mentioned the Walsh and Gerald Green comp, good job. The only difference was Green was o was flying all over the place without a care in the w world. Walsh is playing scared and it’s in his head right now.


Sophomore slump?

I was thinking (last year) Corey Brewer, Matt Barnes, Jaime Jacquez. Brewer is a passable statistical comp and his scouting capsules read very similar to Walsh's, similar strengths and weaknesses. Barnes is a better fit from a physical standpoint, and was a scrappy, high motor defender who entered the league kind of raw but had enough talent to develop into something better. Jacquez comp was mostly statistical (but a very close comp in that context).

These are guys who had (or project to have) a long NBA career, can't really ask for more than that with the 45th pick. There are also guys who entered the league later than Walsh did and still took some time to develop.


When it becomes a mental thing it's tough and that's what I see. He'll get coddled by the coaches and his teammates but at the end of the day he has to find his way out of his own head. High level golfers say that's the worst problem to have because you can have great coaching and practice sessions but tournaments are the worst if its in your head. You play terrible but practice great.
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Post#1454 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:37 pm

OMP has really played well. i remember him from the last Draft...
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Post#1455 » by threrf23 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:39 pm

Hal14 wrote:Is it crazy to think we might waive Walsh?

He's only a $1.8mil cap hit for this season.

Also looks like about a $2 mil cap hit for next season too.

I guess waiving him probably won't happen but maybe we just try to dump him on someone in a trade? Otherwise it looks like it could be a waste of a roster spot.

And we might be leaving the 15th roster spot open again, so that would be 2 wasted roster spots..with KP out for half the season..


It's clearly not crazy to think we would consider waiving him if we needed to waive someone.

It would be crazy to make that decision based on a few summer league games.

I think Watson might demand a spot. Willing role player who just "gets it." Can prob spell Hauser or Horf where needed in the reg season. He's the type of player who might play better in Boston than in Maine IMO.
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Post#1456 » by playa-hater » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:40 pm

should add that Walsh is not only 0-14 from 3, but almost every single miss has been way off. That is way more than just having "Yipes"
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1457 » by phincsfan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:42 pm

Hal14 wrote:Is it crazy to think we might waive Walsh?

He's only a $1.8mil cap hit for this season.

Also looks like about a $2 mil cap hit for next season too.

I guess waiving him probably won't happen but maybe we just try to dump him on someone in a trade? Otherwise it looks like it could be a waste of a roster spot.

And we might be leaving the 15th roster spot open again, so that would be 2 wasted roster spots..with KP out for half the season..


I don't think they do that. I really believe that Stevens will do the best he can for these kids. Call me :crazy: . Professional sports is so brutal, but every now and then you see some good. I feel that with JD. Now JD may be having attitude issues that could shut that door, but I think Stevens see's Walsh as a really good kid, who has some ability and he'll do his best to get him going somewhere.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1458 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:42 pm

Hal14 wrote:Is it crazy to think we might waive Walsh?

He's only a $1.8mil cap hit for this season.

Also looks like about a $2 mil cap hit for next season too.

I guess waiving him probably won't happen but maybe we just try to dump him on someone in a trade? Otherwise it looks like it could be a waste of a roster spot.

And we might be leaving the 15th roster spot open again, so that would be 2 wasted roster spots..with KP out for half the season..

Celtics are not waiving Walsh. They may move him but I doubt it
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1459 » by darrendaye » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:42 pm

playa-hater wrote:should add that Walsh is not only 0-14 from 3, but almost every single miss has been way off. That is way more than just having "Yipes"


Doing some stupid #&^@ with his feet on a number of them.
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Re: Sum. League, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics vs Mavericks – 4:30PM, July 19, 2024 

Post#1460 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:43 pm

threrf23 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Is it crazy to think we might waive Walsh?

He's only a $1.8mil cap hit for this season.

Also looks like about a $2 mil cap hit for next season too.

I guess waiving him probably won't happen but maybe we just try to dump him on someone in a trade? Otherwise it looks like it could be a waste of a roster spot.

And we might be leaving the 15th roster spot open again, so that would be 2 wasted roster spots..with KP out for half the season..


It's clearly not crazy to think we would consider waiving him if we needed to waive someone.

It would be crazy to make that decision based on a few summer league games.

I think Watson might demand a spot. Willing role player who just "gets it." Can prob spell Hauser or Horf where needed in the reg season. He's the type of player who might play better in Boston than in Maine IMO.

Yeah, let's at least keep him on the team into training camp.

But if we need to waive someone in camp and if he doesn't show improvement, he could be on the chopping block..

I think it's just a slump and he could turn it around..
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