OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race

Clyde_Style · Post #941 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:26 am

Obama set up Biden

Biden set up Harris

The torch has been passed

Riot Randolph · Post #942 » by **Riot Randolph** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:27 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Neutral 123 wrote:He has. I think it was a call in to some event. Rumors were starting..

Read on Twitter

Joe speaks more clearly with the COVID than he did during the debate.

He's a good man. I've grown to respect him. You can hear the gratitude he has and the humility he's bringing to this. Kudos

I met him and talked to him for a good 5 minutes. Gave me a hug and we took a picture of us flexing our biceps…really good dude unbelievably warm and personable

Jalen Bluntson · Post #943 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:30 am

I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

Clyde_Style · Post #944 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:33 am

BigShot Bojan wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Joe speaks more clearly with the COVID than he did during the debate.

He's a good man. I've grown to respect him. You can hear the gratitude he has and the humility he's bringing to this. Kudos
I

met him and talked to him for a good 5 minutes. Gave me a hug and we took a picture of us flexing our biceps…really good dude unbelievably warm and personable

Glad to hear it. Good memory to take with you

Clyde_Style · Post #945 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:37 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

She's ON THE BALLOT. You want a chit show now? Then give those GOP pricks a chance to contest the ballot in 50 states by choosing someone else.

Didn't you see the story about 40,000 people on a 4 hour zoom call held yesterday by black women supporting Harris? That's the tip of the iceberg. You dump Harris and you may be kissing those votes away.

BLACK WOMEN WON THE LAST ELECTION. Don't forget it. They're coming out of the woodwork now. She's a woman of color and she's going to have an army campaigning for her like no one else would have.

robillionaire · Post #946 » by **robillionaire** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:40 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

Does anybody really want to stand up and vie for the position though? I’ve not seen it and across the board everyone in the party seems to endorse Harris. It seems pretty united. It won’t be official until next month so there is a few weeks there but I don’t expect much push back

Jalen Bluntson · Post #947 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:41 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Really? Not even in my top five. Maybe not even top ten. Still a great song though.

Refugee and Breakdown are my two favorites

The Waiting and I Won’t Back Down.

Breakdown
I won't back down
Yer so bad
Running down a dream
You got lucky
Learning to fly
Don't do me like that

Refugee is a great song as well but, he has a bunch of great music.

Clyde_Style · Post #948 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:44 am

robillionaire wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

Does anybody really want to stand up and vie for the position though? I’ve not seen it and across the board everyone in the party seems to endorse Harris. It seems pretty united. It won’t be official until next month so there is a few weeks there but I don’t expect much push back

The delegates have been pledged to her. It's a done deal.

She'd have to shoot Trump on 5th Avenue to be replaced at this point.

HarthorneWingo · Post #949 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:44 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Refugee and Breakdown are my two favorites

The Waiting and I Won’t Back Down.

Breakdown
I won't back down
Yer so bad
Running down a dream
You got lucky
Learning to fly
Don't do me like that

Refugee is a great song as well but, he has a bunch of great music.

I got sick to stomach when I heard TP passed away. Broke my heart. He was such a cool dude.

HarthorneWingo · Post #950 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:45 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

Does anybody really want to stand up and vie for the position though? I’ve not seen it and across the board everyone in the party seems to endorse Harris. It seems pretty united. It won’t be official until next month so there is a few weeks there but I don’t expect much push back

The delegates have been pledged to her. It's a done deal.

She'd have to shoot Trump on 5th Avenue to be replaced at this point.

Immune under the recent US v. Trump Supreme Court decision. :lol:

HarthorneWingo · Post #951 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:47 am

BigShot Bojan wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Joe speaks more clearly with the COVID than he did during the debate.

He's a good man. I've grown to respect him. You can hear the gratitude he has and the humility he's bringing to this. Kudos
I met him and talked to him for a good 5 minutes. Gave me a hug and we took a picture of us flexing our biceps…really good dude unbelievably warm and personable

You have big biceps?

Clyde_Style · Post #952 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:48 am

I'm realizing now the timing of Biden's announcement was brilliant.

He totally snuffed out any momentum the GOP felt they had coming out of the convention and shifted the whole focus of the media to Harris and the Democrats.

Joe's an old pro. He knew exactly what he was doing and how to pull it off, including keeping it Leon Rose quiet until the last minute.

SAVAGE

Clyde_Style · Post #953 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:50 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
He's a good man. I've grown to respect him. You can hear the gratitude he has and the humility he's bringing to this. Kudos
I met him and talked to him for a good 5 minutes. Gave me a hug and we took a picture of us flexing our biceps…really good dude unbelievably warm and personable

You have big biceps?

Wingo be:

Jalen Bluntson · Post #954 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:50 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

She's ON THE BALLOT. You want a chit show now? Then give those GOP pricks a chance to contest the ballot in 50 states by choosing someone else.

Didn't you see the story about 40,000 people on a 4 hour zoom call held yesterday by black women supporting Harris? That's the tip of the iceberg. You dump Harris and you may be kissing those votes away.

BLACK WOMEN WON THE LAST ELECTION. Don't forget it. They're coming out of the woodwork now. She's a woman of color and she's going to have an army campaigning for her like no one else would have.

IDGAF. She wasn't the nominee and wasn't running for the office three days ago. It leaves a bad taste the way she was vaulted to the front of the line. That's not unreasonable to feel that way. You were one of the people pushing back a couple years ago when I mentioned Joe's age IIRC. Here you are trying to force me to accept things I don't like again? I am not alone either but, hopefully others will just bite the bullet and get on board. She's still a better choice than Captain Von Shytstain.

I did finish it by saying she's getting my support if they go that route but, I don't have to like the way this shyt show went down. They should have figured his out before the primary. Period.

Clyde_Style · Post #955 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:56 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

She's ON THE BALLOT. You want a chit show now? Then give those GOP pricks a chance to contest the ballot in 50 states by choosing someone else.

Didn't you see the story about 40,000 people on a 4 hour zoom call held yesterday by black women supporting Harris? That's the tip of the iceberg. You dump Harris and you may be kissing those votes away.

BLACK WOMEN WON THE LAST ELECTION. Don't forget it. They're coming out of the woodwork now. She's a woman of color and she's going to have an army campaigning for her like no one else would have.

IDGAF. She wasn't the nominee and wasn't running for the office three days ago. It leaves a bad taste the way she was vaulted to the front of the line. That's not unreasonable to feel that way. You were one of the people pushing back a couple years ago when I mentioned Joe's age IIRC. Here you are trying to force me to accept things I don't like again? I am not alone either but, hopefully others will just bite the bullet and get on board. She's still a better choice than Captain Von Shytstain.

I did finish it by saying she's getting my support if they go that route but, I don't have to like the way this shyt show went down. They should have figured his out before the primary. Period.

Disagree. That's what being the VP is all about. You voted for Biden, you also voted for her. If he steps down, she steps up. That's the normal hierarchy.

You make it sound like she's some kind of carpetbagger or opportunist which is pretty bizarre. She's in the middle of serving her first term as VP, not some wannabe.

Nobody forced Kamala Harris on you. That's the narrative the GOP is using.

Your take on it is basically you think she's hot garbage, therefore it is easy for you to say she's being shoved down your throat even when that is counter to reality.

To think it would be desirable to invite a knockdown, dragout fight on a convention floor less than two months before the general election would be sheer madness and be a likely path to failure. People back unity, not division. The party is clearly united behind her.

FACTS: Delegates have been pledged to her. She's the nominee.

You want to talk about civics?

Those delegates came from the primaries which invests them with the powers to pledge their support behind the candidate voted for and to support another should that voted for candidate becomes sidelined. Them's the rules bud. Actual electoral procedure. You don't hold a second set of primaries. The delegates step in like they just have. They represent you and just like any representative you may not like their choice, but that's what you get when you voted for Biden in the primaries.

Fury · Post #956 » by **Fury** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:58 am

Read on Twitter

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HarthorneWingo · Post #957 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:58 am

Clyde_Style wrote:I'm realizing now the timing of Biden's announcement was brilliant.

He totally snuffed out any momentum the GOP felt they had coming out of the convention and shifted the whole focus of the media to Harris and the Democrats.

Joe's an old pro. He knew exactly what he was doing and how to pull it off, including keeping it Leon Rose quiet until the last minute.

SAVAGE

I hate to destroy your lovely narrative but the real story beat you to the punch. It was the polling data.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-quit-race-re-election-after-agonizing-over-poll-data-sources-say-2024-07-22/

Jalen Bluntson · Post #958 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:59 am

robillionaire wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

Does anybody really want to stand up and vie for the position though? I’ve not seen it and across the board everyone in the party seems to endorse Harris. It seems pretty united. It won’t be official until next month so there is a few weeks there but I don’t expect much push back

I agree that no one SEEMS to want to get in the way. It's been a day and half though and NO ONE was really given a chance. It isn't a good look and I really don't appreciate the way this went down.

I am not a party liner. I don't fall in line like a sheep the way most of the country does. There is a lot at stake here though and the other party is a complete disaster. No way can I vote for that insanity. So I will vote blue no matter who for this election. The two party system is in complete meltdown at this point. I don't like any of it these days. 2000/2004/2016/2020/2024 election cycles have all been a shyt show in one way or another.

HarthorneWingo · Post #959 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:04 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.

Does anybody really want to stand up and vie for the position though? I’ve not seen it and across the board everyone in the party seems to endorse Harris. It seems pretty united. It won’t be official until next month so there is a few weeks there but I don’t expect much push back

I agree that no one SEEMS to want to get in the way. It's been a day and half though and NO ONE was really given a chance. It isn't a good look and I really don't appreciate the way this went down.

I am not a party liner. I don't fall in line like a sheep the way most of the country does. There is a lot at stake here though and the other party is a complete disaster. No way can I vote for that insanity. So I will vote blue no matter who for this election. The two party system is in complete meltdown at this point. I don't like any of it these days. 2000/2004/2016/2020/2024 election cycles have all been a shyt show in one way or another.

It was an unusual set of facts and circumstances that led to this. Realistically, there just isn’t enough time for other candidates to fill out and submit all the necessary campaign paperwork in each of the 50 states, set up their staffs, rent out office spaces, etc. The Biden-Harris campaign has that already taken care of.

You’ll have your chance in 4 years when other Democrats may challenge her.

Clyde_Style · Post #960 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:04 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I'm realizing now the timing of Biden's announcement was brilliant.

He totally snuffed out any momentum the GOP felt they had coming out of the convention and shifted the whole focus of the media to Harris and the Democrats.

Joe's an old pro. He knew exactly what he was doing and how to pull it off, including keeping it Leon Rose quiet until the last minute.

SAVAGE

I hate to destroy your lovely narrative but the real story beat you to the punch. It was the poll data.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-quit-race-re-election-after-agonizing-over-poll-data-sources-say-2024-07-22/

Why are you being contrary? We're both right.