Around the NBA (Part Two)

[Klomp]

What worries me is that this will influence how much NAW makes, and maybe price him off the team.

I think this price range was already roughly where NAW would end up, so this changes nothing.

[KGdaBom]

I'd rather give those minutes to our young guys.

I think many of us are underrating our young guys other than Dilly and TJ. I believe Miller and Minott have something to offer and Clark could develop into a defensive stopper.

They have plenty to offer. In Iowa.

What was your purpose in making this post with a very snarky tone. You could have just said you are among those that think Miller isn't good enough for the NBA. IMO the Wolves will play Miller almost every game. Minott will be far down the depth chart, but could come in handy in certain circumstances. I don't expect Miller to spend more than a few days in Iowa this year. Minott probably some. Clark needs a year before he's ready if he ever will be.

[Klomp]

You are among many that are underrating Miller and Minott. I don't expect Miller to spend time in Iowa this year at all. Minott probably some, but not much.

I don't expect either to spend much time in Iowa, if at all. But I don't think they will be in the regular rotation either.

[minimus]

Somebody here got Nembhard right. He is getting a $59 mil 3 yr contract from IND.

I have been big believer in Nembhard. A big defensive minded comboguard, who would fit in MIN

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He’s an okay player in the perfect situation for him, he isn’t a starter on most other playoff teams and certainly not for the wolves he would be 8th man at best.

He literally started all 17 games in playoffs, including ECF

[winforlose]

I have been big believer in Nembhard. A big defensive minded comboguard, who would fit in MIN

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He’s an okay player in the perfect situation for him, he isn’t a starter on most other playoff teams and certainly not for the wolves he would be 8th man at best.

He literally started all 17 games in playoffs, including ECF

Fair, but starting there and starting here isn’t the same thing. Conley is more effective than him, and he isn’t starting over Ant. NAW is the better player overall, and Naz was 6th man of the year, thus 8th man.

[winforlose]

What worries me is that this will influence how much NAW makes, and maybe price him off the team.

I think this price range was already roughly where NAW would end up, so this changes nothing.

I actually think/thought NAW belongs in the 12-15 range.

[minimus]

I have been big believer in Nembhard. A big defensive minded comboguard, who would fit in MIN

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He’s an okay player in the perfect situation for him, he isn’t a starter on most other playoff teams and certainly not for the wolves he would be 8th man at best.

I still think NAW plays better defense and shoots a higher percentage 3. What worries me is that this will influence how much NAW makes, and maybe price him off the team.

That's correct. NAW is better defender and 3pt shooter. But we have learned that NAW can't play PG, while Nembhard is PG. NAW role and skillet is drifting towards extreme 3&D guy without in between game. And I am saying this despite being his big fan

[KGdaBom]

You are among many that are underrating Miller and Minott. I don't expect Miller to spend time in Iowa this year at all. Minott probably some, but not much.

I don't expect either to spend much time in Iowa, if at all. But I don't think they will be in the regular rotation either.

I expect Miller to get regular minutes. Less than 10, but very few DNP CDs.

[Klomp]

What worries me is that this will influence how much NAW makes, and maybe price him off the team.

I think this price range was already roughly where NAW would end up, so this changes nothing.

I actually think/thought NAW belongs in the 12-15 range.

Maybe 4-5 years ago, but not even close in today's financial climate. Shooters who also provide elite defense get paid. He's not far off defensively from Jaden, but has a more defined role already on offense. Two years older will put him a little below Jaden in contract value, but not much.

Nembhard $19.6M AAV
McDaniels $27.2 AAV

I'd put NAW about midway between the two in overall impact, maybe a little lower due to being 25 already. A $20-23M AAV sounds about right to me. Look at what Bruce Brown got paid, as an example...and he's not a good shooter.

[Klomp]

I expect Miller to get regular minutes. Less than 10, but very few DNP CDs.

That would shock me, to be honest. I'm guessing at least 40-50 DNP-CDs (he had 65 DNP-CDs in 2023-24).

[Slim Tubby]

Somebody here got Nembhard right. He is getting a $59 mil 3 yr contract from IND.

I have been big believer in Nembhard. A big defensive minded comboguard, who would fit in MIN

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You've been advocating for Nembhard on here for quite some time.

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[BlacJacMac]

He’s an okay player in the perfect situation for him, he isn’t a starter on most other playoff teams and certainly not for the wolves he would be 8th man at best.

He literally started all 17 games in playoffs, including ECF

Fair, but starting there and starting here isn’t the same thing. Conley is more effective than him, and he isn’t starting over Ant. NAW is the better player overall, and Naz was 6th man of the year, thus 8th man.

He was really good in the Playoffs. And got better as they went along.

EC1: 14 PPG (60/45/67), 3.3 RPG, 4.7 APG
ECS: 12 PPG (55/53/75), 3.0 RPG, 5.0 APG
ECF: 21 PPG (54/48/89), 3.8 RPG, 7.8 APG

He might've been our 7th or 8th man this year, but (before drafting Dilly), he would've been an outstanding player to groom as Mike's replacement.

[BlacJacMac]

I expect Miller to get regular minutes. Less than 10, but very few DNP CDs.

That would shock me, to be honest. I'm guessing at least 40-50 DNP-CDs (he had 65 DNP-CDs in 2023-24).

Agreed. I really like Miller, but watching him in SL, I don't see how his game translates against better competition as it stands now.

There is so much fundamental stuff he needs to work on in practice. I think he mostly gets garbage time minutes.

Garza played in 25 games last year, for a total of 122 minutes. That's a likely benchmark for Miller this year, IMO.

[KGdaBom]

I expect Miller to get regular minutes. Less than 10, but very few DNP CDs.

That would shock me, to be honest. I'm guessing at least 40-50 DNP-CDs (he had 65 DNP-CDs in 2023-24).

Agreed. I really like Miller, but watching him in SL, I don't see how his game translates against better competition as it stands now.

There is so much fundamental stuff he needs to work on in practice. I think he mostly gets garbage time minutes.

Garza played in 25 games last year, for a total of 122 minutes. That's a likely benchmark for Miller this year, IMO.

I expect more. Lucky we aren't dealing with Iocaine powder. Some of us would guess right and others would end up dead.

[BlacJacMac]

That would shock me, to be honest. I'm guessing at least 40-50 DNP-CDs (he had 65 DNP-CDs in 2023-24).

Agreed. I really like Miller, but watching him in SL, I don't see how his game translates against better competition as it stands now.

There is so much fundamental stuff he needs to work on in practice. I think he mostly gets garbage time minutes.

Garza played in 25 games last year, for a total of 122 minutes. That's a likely benchmark for Miller this year, IMO.

I expect more. Lucky we aren't dealing with Iocaine powder. Some of us would guess right and others would end up dead.

Who does he take minutes from? KAT, Rudy, Naz, McDaniels, Ingles, TSJ?

[KGdaBom]

Agreed. I really like Miller, but watching him in SL, I don't see how his game translates against better competition as it stands now.

There is so much fundamental stuff he needs to work on in practice. I think he mostly gets garbage time minutes.

Garza played in 25 games last year, for a total of 122 minutes. That's a likely benchmark for Miller this year, IMO.

I expect more. Lucky we aren't dealing with Iocaine powder. Some of us would guess right and others would end up dead.

Who does he take minutes from? KAT, Rudy, Naz, McDaniels, Ingles, TSJ?

Probably minutes from Ingles/TSJ.

[Klomp]

I expect more. Lucky we aren't dealing with Iocaine powder. Some of us would guess right and others would end up dead.

Who does he take minutes from? KAT, Rudy, Naz, McDaniels, Ingles, TSJ?

Probably minutes from Ingles/TSJ.

Miller is far more PF/C than he is SF/PF though.

[KGdaBom]

Who does he take minutes from? KAT, Rudy, Naz, McDaniels, Ingles, TSJ?

Probably minutes from Ingles/TSJ.

Miller is far more PF/C than he is SF/PF though.

I believe he is talented enough that Finchy is going to have to find minutes for him someway/somehow. There will be injuries to KAT/NAZ/Gobert and rest days for old fogies like Ingles. It's not my job to figure out where the minutes come from. My job is to be an armchair PG and speculate.

[winforlose]

He literally started all 17 games in playoffs, including ECF

Fair, but starting there and starting here isn’t the same thing. Conley is more effective than him, and he isn’t starting over Ant. NAW is the better player overall, and Naz was 6th man of the year, thus 8th man.

He was really good in the Playoffs. And got better as they went along.

EC1: 14 PPG (60/45/67), 3.3 RPG, 4.7 APG
ECS: 12 PPG (55/53/75), 3.0 RPG, 5.0 APG
ECF: 21 PPG (54/48/89), 3.8 RPG, 7.8 APG

He might've been our 7th or 8th man this year, but (before drafting Dilly), he would've been an outstanding player to groom as Mike's replacement.

Still makes him 7th or 8th man behind Naz and maybe NAW.

[minimus]

He’s an okay player in the perfect situation for him, he isn’t a starter on most other playoff teams and certainly not for the wolves he would be 8th man at best.

He literally started all 17 games in playoffs, including ECF

Fair, but starting there and starting here isn’t the same thing. Conley is more effective than him, and he isn’t starting over Ant. NAW is the better player overall, and Naz was 6th man of the year, thus 8th man.

It does not matter because he makes 2 mil next season.