Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 8.0: A Forum Divided

RichCollab · Post #1981 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:00 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still having a hard time understanding why we brought Harris back.

Cheap vet. Knows the system. Plays both sides of the ball and is a good shooter.

Can be traded if we need salary filler.

Post #1982 » by **eyriq** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:02 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still having a hard time understanding why we brought Harris back.

Same. Last season AB played as a spot-up shooter, Harris played as a spot-up shooter, and KCP played as a spot-up shooter. I know we want AB to develop into a playmaker, but it feels like overkill to have Harris back.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #1983 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:08 pm

RichCollab wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still having a hard time understanding why we brought Harris back.

Cheap vet. Knows the system. Plays both sides of the ball and is a good shooter.

Can be traded if we need salary filler.

We have enough people who know the system that could take his spot. His spot-up shooting was needed the most in the playoff and he couldn’t be bothered.

I feel the same about Cole but we resigned him in beginning of last year so it is what it is.

Skybox · Post #1984 » by **Skybox** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:16 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
fendilim wrote:
eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
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This simply speaks volumes that there really was no value for fultz around the league. Lol

Fultz is like a boxer/mma fighter that gets KO’d and is the never the same.. gun shy and hesitant. Just a shell of himself now

With all respect...he WAS the #1 overall pick BUT he was NEVER a good pro. Not ever. Not sure when his body fell apart, but he's not the first college superstar that doesn't make it in the NBA...so, maybe just a shell of his "college-self"?

*you can be picky and point out particular nights when he was a good pro, but that's not evidence of anything of substance

anothermagicfan · Post #1985 » by **anothermagicfan** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:52 pm

VFX wrote:
SOUL wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:My dear lord some of you wouldn't sense sarcasm if it came up and bit you in the ass

Being on this board for 18 years will leave people with broken sarcasm detectors with all of the horrible takes

I could easily see that being an Orthoman thread

Yeah. Some people still haven't earned being sarcastic without using green font lol.

Who's the green font police chief around here anyway? I was called out for not using green font by someone that started a thread titled "..."

anothermagicfan · Post #1986 » by **anothermagicfan** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:54 pm

RichCollab wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still having a hard time understanding why we brought Harris back.

Cheap vet. Knows the system. Plays both sides of the ball and is a good shooter.

Can be traded if we need salary filler.

For me it's as simple as Gary>Cole.

VFX · Post #1987 » by **VFX** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:02 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:
VFX wrote:
SOUL wrote:
Being on this board for 18 years will leave people with broken sarcasm detectors with all of the horrible takes

I could easily see that being an Orthoman thread

Yeah. Some people still haven't earned being sarcastic without using green font lol.

Who's the green font police chief around here anyway? I was called out for not using green font by someone that started a thread titled "..."

Don’t look at me. lol.

I read this board maybe once a day at this point.

pepe1991 · Post #1988 » by **pepe1991** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:24 pm

Kent wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Audi wrote:
Killian doesn't have micro fractures in the same knee that he tore his ACL, so I can see why

Well, even before that, no ones been trading for kelle.

Sucks that markelle is damaged goods. Would have easily been a multiple time allstar easily

The Nets aren't trying to win though.

Context matters.

It's not like Fultz would make them any better :lol:

Killian is just 4 years younger and has more "team friendly" playstyle

basketballRob · Post #1989 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:59 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
?t=S0azDlVF9-cABNPI5bsbEQ&s=19

Killian is actually very good defender and has one of bettter assist/turnover rates in nba.
He is probably modern day homless/s***y Rondo/Ricky Rubio.

Can't shoot, can't score, but can pass. Not so usless if your team has solid offensive options around him, also he is 22 years old and was stuck in hell named Detroit Pistons. Maybe he is better than we saw. Who knows...

Maybe pairing him with Cam Thomas who doesn't pass, doesn't defend, but can score like lightning will be the perfect yin/yang backcourt.

I thought that Cam had similar defensive numbers as Franz did prior to last season. I'm not sure what we could trade for him. I would assume Cole would be part of the package to get him.

Up until last season, Cam's net rating was really good, and his defensive rating was low. I remember Phoenix fans saying he was a good defender.

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629661

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yoyojw17 · Post #1990 » by **yoyojw17** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:48 pm

https://youtu.be/IBKOHCt2jxw?si=RDv_daViHlQeJutD
KCP interview with Draymond...

... Loved the Steph curry comment and screen navigation.

fendilim · Post #1991 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:16 pm

Kent wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Audi wrote:
Killian doesn't have micro fractures in the same knee that he tore his ACL, so I can see why

Well, even before that, no ones been trading for kelle.

Sucks that markelle is damaged goods. Would have easily been a multiple time allstar easily

The Nets aren't trying to win though.

Context matters.

Fultz actually played on our roster during our tanking years lol

Killian hayes doesnt even have a guaranteed roster spot.

Fultz wasnt even starter when we made the playoffs last year.

Both of them dont contribute to winning.

Fultz simply sucks and doesnt even have a career that can be rescued from purgatory.

Kent · Post #1992 » by **Kent** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:08 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Kent wrote:
fendilim wrote:Well, even before that, no ones been trading for kelle.

Sucks that markelle is damaged goods. Would have easily been a multiple time allstar easily

The Nets aren't trying to win though.

Context matters.

It's not like Fultz would make them any better
Killian is just 4 years younger and has more "team friendly" playstyle

I get what you're saying but I would rather have a high character guy who at least used to be good and knows what it's like to battle adversity and persevere. That's just me.

What I'm saying is if they both cancel each other out on the floor, I'll take the guy who's perceived as a good dude and positive influence on the locker room.

KillMonger · Post #1993 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:42 am

If the Cam Johnson noise has anything to it then who are we trading? Cam is a starter

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #1994 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:57 am

KillMonger wrote:If the Cam Johnson noise has anything to it then who are we trading? Cam is a starter

Cam is a pf so obviously we need to trade our starting pf. :dontknow:

RichCollab · Post #1995 » by **RichCollab** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:44 pm

KillMonger wrote:If the Cam Johnson noise has anything to it then who are we trading? Cam is a starter

Let’s trade Franz. We need better shooting around Paolo.

zaymon · Post #1996 » by **zaymon** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:27 pm

RichCollab wrote:
KillMonger wrote:If the Cam Johnson noise has anything to it then who are we trading? Cam is a starter

Let’s trade Franz. We need better shooting around Paolo.

MagicHolland · Post #1997 » by **MagicHolland** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:12 pm

Tyus Jones went extremely cheap. Would’ve preferred him over Harris.

Post #1998 » by **Knightro** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:13 pm

Read on Twitter

I know people are going to complain about not signing him and instead signing Cory Joseph.

But Tyus is probably going to start in Phoenix, or at the very least play enough minutes where he could rebuild his value.

That wouldn't have necessarily been the case in Orlando, at least not without trading Cole.

tiderulz · Post #1999 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:15 pm

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

I know people are going to complain about not signing him and instead signing Cory Joseph.

But Tyus is probably going to start in Phoenix, or at the very least play enough minutes where he could rebuild his value.

That wouldn't have necessarily been the case in Orlando, at least not without trading Cole.

how does he need to "rebuild value"? he had arguably his best year. Career high in ppg, career high in 3pt%, apg, rpg, highest TS, tied for highest PER.

Post #2000 » by **Knightro** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:19 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

I know people are going to complain about not signing him and instead signing Cory Joseph.

But Tyus is probably going to start in Phoenix, or at the very least play enough minutes where he could rebuild his value.

That wouldn't have necessarily been the case in Orlando, at least not without trading Cole.

how does he need to "rebuild value"? he had arguably his best year. Career high in ppg, career high in 3pt%, apg, rpg, highest TS, tied for highest PER.

My sense is that much like Gary Trent Jr., Tyus Jones went into free agency looking for big money and a starting role and in both cases, the market just wasn’t there for that.

And by the time the player realized it, it was too late and they had to take the minimum with a contender to try and get their value back up for next summer.