Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II

[drsd]

Did I miss a trade idea? Who did you have in mind?

I would like Anthony traded for a primary backup SF. Maybe Bojan Bogdanović is available in a mid-season trade.

[drsd]

da Silva literally slots in as a backup SF. Perfect size and skillset for it. Will he be ready for it right away? Who knows, but other guys can chip in there too, like Black at times, Houstan, KCP.

Right…every comp I’ve seen for TdS is Franz- and that’ll be who he backs up. I also think their versatility has them on the court together at times. I’m not seeing the concerns about frontcourt depth some are saying we have…

Goga 5
Mo 4/5
WCJ 4/5
Isaac 3/4/5
Paolo 3/4…Kerr says 5
Franz 1/2/3/4
TdS 3/4
Jett 2/3
Black 1/2/3
Houstan 2/3/4

I’m still more concerned about QUALITY ballhandling & offensive creation in the backcourt. Plenty of bodies, but some missing skillsets

And-1 to the notions.

When Orlando drafted F-Wagner, many here saw him as a PF. But because of the roster and injuries he played SF: and thrived.

As for da Silva, I cannot see him logging many PF minutes, except in short, small-ball defensive matchups. I just don't think he can play to ways at the 4.

[eyriq]

da Silva literally slots in as a backup SF. Perfect size and skillset for it. Will he be ready for it right away? Who knows, but other guys can chip in there too, like Black at times, Houstan, KCP.

I'm concerned with his lateral quickness defensively.

Good observation. Something to watch for.

[Knightro]

da Silva literally slots in as a backup SF. Perfect size and skillset for it. Will he be ready for it right away? Who knows, but other guys can chip in there too, like Black at times, Houstan, KCP.

I'm concerned with his lateral quickness defensively.

Good observation. Something to watch for.

I have basically no concerns whatsoever with his offense.

I just worry he's a tweener defensively. Not physical enough to bang with forwards or bigs, but not quick enough to stay in front of guards or quicker wings.

[DiplomaticMagic]

I just want to say its crazy that a ton of my favorite players last couple years are Moe Wagner dunks

[jezzerinho]

I'm concerned with his lateral quickness defensively.

Good observation. Something to watch for.

I have basically no concerns whatsoever with his offense.

I just worry he's a tweener defensively. Not physical enough to bang with forwards or bigs, but not quick enough to stay in front of guards or quicker wings.

Within a few years he'll be a PF, imo

[RookieStar]

I'm concerned with his lateral quickness defensively.

Good observation. Something to watch for.

I have basically no concerns whatsoever with his offense.

I just worry he's a tweener defensively. Not physical enough to bang with forwards or bigs, but not quick enough to stay in front of guards or quicker wings.

His height makes him a modern day 4. His weight/body build makes him a 3. His speed/quickness is ideal for a 4. His offensive araenal is more suited for a 3.

Enigma.

[Skybox]

Good observation. Something to watch for.

I have basically no concerns whatsoever with his offense.

I just worry he's a tweener defensively. Not physical enough to bang with forwards or bigs, but not quick enough to stay in front of guards or quicker wings.

His height makes him a modern day 4. His weight/body build makes him a 3. His speed/quickness is ideal for a 4. His offensive araenal is more suited for a 3.

Enigma.

His 250lb All-Star teammate also makes him a 3

[tiderulz]

da Silva literally slots in as a backup SF. Perfect size and skillset for it. Will he be ready for it right away? Who knows, but other guys can chip in there too, like Black at times, Houstan, KCP.

Right…every comp I’ve seen for TdS is Franz- and that’ll be who he backs up. I also think their versatility has them on the court together at times. I’m not seeing the concerns about frontcourt depth some are saying we have…

Goga 5
Mo 4/5
WCJ 4/5
Isaac 3/4/5
Paolo 3/4…Kerr says 5
Franz 1/2/3/4
TdS 3/4
Jett 2/3
Black 1/2/3
Houstan 2/3/4

I’m still more concerned about QUALITY ballhandling & offensive creation in the backcourt. Plenty of bodies, but some missing skillsets

And-1 to the notions.

When Orlando drafted F-Wagner, many here saw him as a PF. But because of the roster and injuries he played SF: and thrived.

As for da Silva, I cannot see him logging many PF minutes, except in short, small-ball defensive matchups. I just don't think he can play to ways at the 4.

i dont know that anyone really saw him a PF

[tiderulz]

da Silva literally slots in as a backup SF. Perfect size and skillset for it. Will he be ready for it right away? Who knows, but other guys can chip in there too, like Black at times, Houstan, KCP.

I'm concerned with his lateral quickness defensively.

Good observation. Something to watch for.

if Slomo Kyle Anderson can handle it, im sure he can handle it with bench minutes

[RookieStar]

I have basically no concerns whatsoever with his offense.

I just worry he's a tweener defensively. Not physical enough to bang with forwards or bigs, but not quick enough to stay in front of guards or quicker wings.

His height makes him a modern day 4. His weight/body build makes him a 3. His speed/quickness is ideal for a 4. His offensive araenal is more suited for a 3.

Enigma.

His 250lb All-Star teammate also makes him a 3

Bold of you to assumbe he will play alongside Paolo. In that scenario, Franz Jett KCP AB are injured/bench for him to play in minutes that our coach thinks Paolos is still needed to be in the court.

[Bakomagic]

It doesn't look like he will be a high-level defender individually, but his size and IQ could help him be an average ISO defender and an above-average team defender one day.

I am not super worried about his defense next year, especially if he is sharing the court with a bench unit that puts him next to guys like JI and AB and other times with Suggs, KCP and even Goga once in awhile.

[drsd]

i dont know that anyone really saw him a PF

After the Magic drafted F-Wagner and we all looked at the roster, we saw: some sort of roster that included Anthony, Suggs, Carter, (little-did-we-know), Okeke, and Bamba.

Clearly the draft reports had F-Wagner as a combo-forward, and when it was leaked that he was a tall 6'11" and WAY above the pre-media books listing of 6'9", that cemented a ReamGM pre pre-season idea, F-Wagner will be a backup PF his rookie year.

Interesting that with the preseason injuries, etc., opening night led to both rookies starting with this five on the court:
Anthony/Suggs/F-Wagner/Carter/Bamba

And from that game-1, F-Wagner is rightly in his proper place: starting SF!

[tiderulz]

i dont know that anyone really saw him a PF

After the Magic drafted F-Wagner and we all looked at the roster, we saw: some sort of roster that included Anthony, Suggs, Carter, (little-did-we-know), Okeke, and Bamba.

Clearly the draft reports had F-Wagner as a combo-forward, and when it was leaked that he was a tall 6'11" and WAY above the pre-media books listing of 6'9", that cemented a ReamGM pre pre-season idea, F-Wagner will be a backup PF his rookie year.

Interesting that with the preseason injuries, etc., opening night led to both rookies starting with this five on the court:
Anthony/Suggs/F-Wagner/Carter/Bamba

And from that game-1, F-Wagner is rightly in his proper place: starting SF!

but his game itself was not that of a PF

[RookieStar]

i dont know that anyone really saw him a PF

After the Magic drafted F-Wagner and we all looked at the roster, we saw: some sort of roster that included Anthony, Suggs, Carter, (little-did-we-know), Okeke, and Bamba.

Clearly the draft reports had F-Wagner as a combo-forward, and when it was leaked that he was a tall 6'11" and WAY above the pre-media books listing of 6'9", that cemented a ReamGM pre pre-season idea, F-Wagner will be a backup PF his rookie year.

Interesting that with the preseason injuries, etc., opening night led to both rookies starting with this five on the court:
Anthony/Suggs/F-Wagner/Carter/Bamba

And from that game-1, F-Wagner is rightly in his proper place: starting SF!

but his game itself was not that of a PF

But in all fairness, all we really saw of him play was with MICH and he was playing the PF role. That's why a lot including me thought he is/was a AK47 type of PF.

[RichCollab]

After the Magic drafted F-Wagner and we all looked at the roster, we saw: some sort of roster that included Anthony, Suggs, Carter, (little-did-we-know), Okeke, and Bamba.

Clearly the draft reports had F-Wagner as a combo-forward, and when it was leaked that he was a tall 6'11" and WAY above the pre-media books listing of 6'9", that cemented a ReamGM pre pre-season idea, F-Wagner will be a backup PF his rookie year.

Interesting that with the preseason injuries, etc., opening night led to both rookies starting with this five on the court:
Anthony/Suggs/F-Wagner/Carter/Bamba

And from that game-1, F-Wagner is rightly in his proper place: starting SF!

but his game itself was not that of a PF

But in all fairness, all we really saw of him play was with MICH and he was playing the PF role. That's why a lot including me thought he is/was a AK47 type of PF.

Franz is pretty unique as he can defend guards pretty well. That makes it much easier to slot him at SF.

[tiderulz]

After the Magic drafted F-Wagner and we all looked at the roster, we saw: some sort of roster that included Anthony, Suggs, Carter, (little-did-we-know), Okeke, and Bamba.

Clearly the draft reports had F-Wagner as a combo-forward, and when it was leaked that he was a tall 6'11" and WAY above the pre-media books listing of 6'9", that cemented a ReamGM pre pre-season idea, F-Wagner will be a backup PF his rookie year.

Interesting that with the preseason injuries, etc., opening night led to both rookies starting with this five on the court:
Anthony/Suggs/F-Wagner/Carter/Bamba

And from that game-1, F-Wagner is rightly in his proper place: starting SF!

but his game itself was not that of a PF

But in all fairness, all we really saw of him play was with MICH and he was playing the PF role. That's why a lot including me thought he is/was a AK47 type of PF.

was he? seemed playing more the SF role to me

[RookieStar]

but his game itself was not that of a PF

But in all fairness, all we really saw of him play was with MICH and he was playing the PF role. That's why a lot including me thought he is/was a AK47 type of PF.

was he? seemed playing more the SF role to me

In MICH? Yeah think so... probably because he was the 2nd tallest in the lineup? Although I confess I was there to check out on Hunter more and gave Franz just a second thought.

[RookieStar]

but his game itself was not that of a PF

But in all fairness, all we really saw of him play was with MICH and he was playing the PF role. That's why a lot including me thought he is/was a AK47 type of PF.

Franz is pretty unique as he can defend guards pretty well. That makes it much easier to slot him at SF.

Yes we know that now but during just after draft? I think it was like the Ra$$$hard-Hedo-Battie scenario. We signed Ra$$$$hard to be a SF and slotted Hedo as a backup. Then Battie got injured and SVG played him as a PF with Hedo as SF. Then booom.

Like in that d12 era, Franz fit just worked out well in the end.

[jezzerinho]

Don't remember anyone pegging Franz as a PF and I don't know why they would have.