Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him

[Sofia]

I feel like this is a Warrior Complaint thread

No this is my complaint thread. You'll find many Warriors fans around here who find my observations embarrassing for some reason and who aren't willing to stick up for Curry even when his own organization is trivializing him even to the consternation of neutral fans.

Great job sticking up for Steph, I hope he sees this bro

[Zvaart]

yes everything is always about the player on your favorite team. And any time they don;t get every single flower its a coordinated gaslighting hit job.

I mean imagine coming through that dynasty and still being this insecure. I can imagine the OP being a fan of the Russell Celtics and writing diatribes about the 2 titles they didn't win and how it was a giant conspiracy.

Steph is amazing. So is Lebron. Sometimes the guy on your team shares an era with another great player. My boy Dirk had to come through with Timmy and Kobe and Shaq and Lebron and KD and..... Doesn't make Dirk any less great that some other guys got their shine too.

OP is maybe the greatest curry stan here, take what he writes with a lot of salt, not only a pinch.

I am fine with lebron getting the mvp, steph cruised till semi-finals. I think he only cared about that medal, not the mvp stuff.

[MavsDirk41]

Do we even know who voted for the Olympic basketball MVP?

I have seen about five minutes of women playing basketball in my life and I heard about it just randomly scrolling through Facebook...

I dont have facebook and didnt see it on espn

I don't think the logical conclusion then should be, "since I didn't see one for the women (though I didn't check lol), they must have made this just give it to Lebron"

Ok lol i looked on espn and didnt see it on there….maybe i missed it man

[JHFVF07]

If you watch those Gsw vs Cavs finals (anyone of the 3) and got the impression that Curry was the best player on the floor, Im sorry for you.

Lebron dont need gaslight or market campaign to be considered a better player than Curry, you just need to watch the game.

[homecourtloss]

Haha got em

Did he really think there was only MEN MVP and it was because of LeBron? I dont even know with these people...

It wouldn’t have suprised me no and i didnt know cause i heard nothing about it lol

This is what irrational hate does to a person.

[Iwasawitness]

I don't think I've ever met someone more insecure, desperate, and delusional than WarriorGM. Over something that not only isn't a big deal but isn't hard to understand, he writes an autobiography explaining why he disagrees with it.

Bruh.

A bunch of dumb nonsense

Overreacting. Overthinking.

Calling this overthinking would be a massive compliment. I don't think any legitimate thinking went into this at all, which is par the course with WarriorGM posts.

[KyRo23]

Your favorite player just won a gold medal... something he has been wanting to do for awhile and you're upset that he didn't win an MVP award that you didn't even know existed 3 weeks ago?

[Sedale Threatt]

We give Ray Allen so much credit for the shot he hit against the Spurs and deservedly so. It was one of the greatest shots in NBA history. But what isn't talked about enough is what happened right before that. Several Lebron missed jumpers and turnovers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306180MIA.html

What happened is that LeBron outscored the whole Spurs starting five in the 4th quarter you pathetic liar:D

It's crazy how much some people are willing to twist/ignore facts because they have some crusade to pursue.

"What isn't talked about is what happened right before that." Lol, you mean the 3-pointer LeBron hit FIFTEEN SECONDS before Allen hit his to cut a 5-point lead down to 2? Then he assisted on or scored all 3 of Miami's buckets in OT, finishing with 32/10/11 as by faaaaar their best player. To say nothing of the 37/12 he put up in Game 7 with several massive FGs down the stretch.

Like I don't expect everybody to like or even agree on every single player. But again, some of the stuff people do to discredit the ones they dislike -- LeBron, Durant, Steph, whoever -- is really mind-numbing.

Case example: How is the player with the most playoff game-winners in history, the highest Game 7 scoring average in history and the highest elimination game scoring average in history a choke artist? How do fans of a team who watched him absolutely obliterate them to lead a 3-1 comeback in the Finals subscribe to this? It defies reality. And yet...

[EmpireFalls]

Steph had every chance to play better in the group stage.

Was it an “agenda” and “gaslighting” when he shot 1-9 with 4 fouls and had a negative plus minus vs Sudan? It’s also funny how through the entirety of your opening post the word “defense”, which is half the game, didn’t enter the conversation. I wonder why?

I may be wrong but my understanding is that a loss to South Sudan wouldn't have been fatal to gold medal aspirations. A loss to Serbia in their last game or to France would have been.

Defense could have been provided by others. The firepower to keep the team in it or to put the game away? Unless KD or Booker were going to raise their game to Steph's level it wasn't really obvious where it would be coming from.

The gaslighting isn't a result of this one decision. As I said there's a one-sided history of it.

Yes, Defense was provided by other players, specifically, the player who did eventually win MVP.

I completely agree with you on three points;

a) Steph not winning 2015 finals MVP was a travesty of justice. I’d go as far as to say it is the most undeserved award in the past decade. Ludicrous.

b) Steph definitely deserves more praise as an integral part of basketball history. he’s arguably the best offensive player of the 21st century, certainly the best shooter ever, and the league has changed forever in no small part due to his contributions.


c) Steph did ultimately make the difference in the SF/F and was the best player if we limit it to just that two game sample size.

However… you venture into logical fallacy territory quite quickly. LeBron was also great, not just good, great vs Serbia and France. Serbia especially when he scored/assisted on 18 points in the 4th AND guarded Jokic, taking Serbia out of their offensive rhythm and flow. Curry was incandescent of course but it’s not like LeBron was not good.

What you’ve presented is an argument for why you feel Steph should’ve won this award (and others). And I agree with parts of it, and would have been happy to see Steph get the MVP in the end. But there are factual reasons that have nothing to do with “agenda” or “gaslighting” that explain why LeBron and to a lesser extent KD won their awards instead of Curry. Defense matters to voters more than you personally think it does, and so does consistency across all games.

[NZB2323]

I think Curry should have won Finals MVPs over Iggy and Durant, but considering the Olympic MVP is for the whole tournament and not just the Gold Medal games, it makes sense that LeBron won it, and I’m not a LeBron fan.

[Sedale Threatt]

I think Curry should have won Finals MVPs over Iggy and Durant, but considering the Olympic MVP is for the whole tournament and not just the Gold Medal games, it makes sense that LeBron won it, and I’m not a LeBron fan.

I would have not only given Curry that Finals MVP, I would have given him the Olympic MVP too. (An award he probably would have used as a doorstop in his 4th mansion given everything else he's won.) Hell, I might have even given it to Jokic just how great he was. But one of my bigger irritations with awards is how many people seem to think there's only one candidate or one deserving winner. Sometimes it's clear-cut. Sometimes you have several options that are both deserving. Such was the case here. Steph was absolutely incredible over the last two games, LeBron was the nerve center of one of the most efficient offensive teams we've ever seen at the international level. It's not a travesty of justice just because Favorite Guy From Your Favorite Team didn't win it.

[picko]

The Olympics MVP award was for the entire tournament and prior to the semi-finals Curry was pretty putrid. If it was an award for the Gold Medal games or across the Semi-Final / Final then he would have been a clear winner. But across the entire tournament, LeBron was the best player on Team USA and since they won't the entire thing he's a more than reasonable choice for tournament MVP.

Also shouldn't you just be happy that 'your guy' just won an Olympic Gold Medal. Why be so miserable?

[ghillphx]

I think Steph Curry himself would find the OP insane. Repelling with his obsessing.

[TrueFan420]

Sometimes the guy on your team shares an era with another great player. My boy Dirk had to come through with Timmy and Kobe and Shaq and Lebron and KD and..... Doesn't make Dirk any less great that some other guys got their shine too.

To be fair, that narrative about Dirk being soft up until he won his championship was BS. While this guy is being hyper sensitive, can you imagine if they still kept calling him soft? Curry really does seem to be down played a lot more than other stars of his stature.

[HMFFL]

Steph Curry has impacted the game naturally more than any player since Michael Jordan. For me it's the case because I see the impact in the different countries I travel too. His game has even impacted the WNBA more than most would realize. He's a treasure to the world.

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[TheGOATRises007]

Curry's my favorite player and your posts on Curry are genuinely hilarious.

Curry isn't as good as LeBron. Get over it.

The OP is probably the worst 'fanboy' of a player on this forum and that's saying something considering the LeBron/MJ/Kobe stans on here.

[axeman23]

[cpower]

that has a lot to do with his playstyle...playing offball and setting screen/opening up his teammates do not show up in box scores and yet most of the awards are based on box scores and PER...sadly it might take another 20 years for the general public to realize that.

[AmIWrongDude]

The mental gymnastics on display here is worthy of a gold medal

[Airmiess]

OP is good at writing.. I don’t necessarily agree with what he’s presenting but it’s provocative.