Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At?

[R-DAWG]

So he should have named him Jordan 'N' James?

Jordan James honestly is a great name for a kid you want to aspire to play basketball.

Hakeem Abdul-Jabbar

Eddy Marbury

The order way around is:

Stephon Curry

[3toheadmelo]

Wiretap has that the Knicks offered Tyus Jones the full 2 year taxpayer MLE. I would assume that also included a player option in year 2.

The difference between the vet minimum for a vet with 9 years experience and the taxpayer MLE is about $2.15MM/year. Interesting that Jones didn’t get a 2nd year player option from PHX.

I guess this makes sense for Jones. He gets a chance to be the starting PG on a high profile team for maybe the last time in his career. With the Knicks, he only would get about 15MPG backing up Brunson.

It’s too bad for NY as Jones is one of if not the best backups in the league. But not a huge needle mover.

Meh, I rather have Deuce getting mins at backup PG (although he isnt really a point). And we still have Kolek who can be a really good bench PG.

[Juco24]

One thing me and sham can agree on, trading Randle and Mitch for KAT is a very bad idea. As low as I am on Mitch, I rather have his defense at C than relying on stone footed KAT.

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

[3toheadmelo]

One thing me and sham can agree on, trading Randle and Mitch for KAT is a very bad idea. As low as I am on Mitch, I rather have his defense at C than relying on stone footed KAT.

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

Facts

[BowlRips]

One thing me and sham can agree on, trading Randle and Mitch for KAT is a very bad idea. As low as I am on Mitch, I rather have his defense at C than relying on stone footed KAT.

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

[DaGawd]

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

entirely fantasy

[Knicksfan1992]

Yeah Tyus is overrated a bit because he's an extremely risk-averse pg who racks up easy assists and doesn't turn the ball over so some advanced metrics really love him. Not saying that isn't valuable in some ways but, I don't think it's something we should be really upset about missing out on.

He probably would have been a decent fit here because he's become a reliable shooter but you can't really play Tyus next to Brunson while Deuce can hold up defensively better next to JB (even if he is tad bit overrated on that side IMO) and I think Deuce's upside offensively this season is roughly the level that Tyus would give you anyway. I'm really high on Deuce's shooting ability continuing to improve though so others might feel that Tyus's offense is better.

Also, I'm high on Kolek who makes much tougher/rewarding passes than Tyus does. I think eventually Kolek will become a better playoff player because his ability to read defenses is at another notch than both Deuce and Tyus. Kolek is just going to need to become a pull up threat to leverage his ability to make insane passes. I think he will. He has too good of a feel and is too good of a spot up guy to not at least become passable pulling up down the line.

[spree2kawhi]

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

Yup. Of course you would. Towns is that type of talent and in contrast to the other two he can legitimately play two positions, shoot the three at an elite clip and doesn’t stop the ball.

[spree2kawhi]

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

entirely fantasy

Like the bridges and OG trades? I agree that it likely won’t happen, but I won’t be surprised if it does.

[3toheadmelo]

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

We wont have assets for Kessler after we give up the farm for KAT

[moocow007]

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

entirely fantasy

Like the bridges and OG trades? I agree that it likely won’t happen, but I won’t be surprised if it does.

After the Bridges and OG trades the Knicks likely won't have the assets to make the Kessler trade (knowing Ainge). Most likely replacement center for when Mitch gets injured is still going to be the less young upside-ish and less star studded group of Valanciunas, Richards, Adams, etc. Guys that are gettable and who's contracts can fit cap wise.

[RHODEY]

Yeah Tyus is overrated a bit because he's an extremely risk-averse pg who racks up easy assists and doesn't turn the ball over so some advanced metrics really love him. Not saying that isn't valuable in some ways but, I don't think it's something we should be really upset about missing out on.

He probably would have been a decent fit here because he's become a reliable shooter but you can't really play Tyus next to Brunson while Deuce can hold up defensively better next to JB (even if he is tad bit overrated on that side IMO) and I think Deuce's upside offensively this season is roughly the level that Tyus would give you anyway. I'm really high on Deuce's shooting ability continuing to improve though so others might feel that Tyus's offense is better.

Chris Duhon 2.0?

[Richard4444]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/277049/Omer-Yurtseven-Panathinaikos-Agree-In-Principle-To-Deal

[MrDollarBills]

Seppuku, is that some kind of Japanese tentacle porn?

No that's hentai. Seppuku is self disembowelment

Someone could **** the disemboweled bowels though

....I've seen some things in my lifetime.

[Iron Mantis]

Like the bridges and OG trades? I agree that it likely won’t happen, but I won’t be surprised if it does.

Before the bridges trade if you asked anyone who the Knicks were more likely to trade for, between Bridges and KAT, everyone would have said that KAT is more attainable.

Really, everyone thought getting Mikal off the Nets was impossible for the Knicks .

I learned not to doubt Leon the Don. He gits 'er dun.

[WaltFrazier]

No one who would like the Knicks to compete for a title would want that trade.

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

Which is probably near impossible.

But that's the thing, you can't just trade Randle AND Mitch for one guy who's a center. You have to have a back-up center or a two center platoon like Hartenstein and Mitch. If you have only Kat who's not even a pure C, then you're really thin in the middle especially if he got hurt.

[DaGawd]

Facts

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

Which is probably near impossible.

But that's the thing, you can't just trade Randle AND Mitch for one guy who's a center. You have to have a back-up center or a two center platoon like Hartenstein and Mitch. If you have only Kat who's not even a pure C, then you're really thin in the middle especially if he got hurt.

and kat is def no iron man

[Iron Mantis]

New CBA makes building a multi-year contender difficult if you want to pay your main guys top dollar.

[3toheadmelo]

I'd do it in a second if there was a way to get Walker Kessler to NYK also.

Which is probably near impossible.

But that's the thing, you can't just trade Randle AND Mitch for one guy who's a center. You have to have a back-up center or a two center platoon like Hartenstein and Mitch. If you have only Kat who's not even a pure C, then you're really thin in the middle especially if he got hurt.

and kat is def no iron man

and kat will get exposed by boston 100%

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[moocow007]

The apron is going to increase so there's that. Still it's not likely going to be able to support a supermax contract along with a deep talented roster (unless you have it timed perfectly like the Thunder or are super smart and managing the contracts like the Knicks).