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Post#1981 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:14 pm

DOT wrote:CSM 174:

Man, people are just the worst

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Also, they really trust a devil? Seriously, they think "oh this devil is asking for 10,000 children to die for no reason, let's take it at its word"?

I can't help but feel like this is thematic, cause if the aging devil gets eaten, it means everybody freezes at their current age. Babies will be babies forever, old people will continue on forever regardless of how decrepit they are, and sacrificing literal children to hold on to power is symbolic of how the boomers refuse to give up power and actively sabotage future generations

Also, Chainsaw man eating the mouth devil seems deliberate, like I don't think public safety sent it to him, it looks like he hunted it down so they couldn't make him throw anything up.


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Sacrificing a future generation to maintain power is 100% Boomer behavior that is multicutural. I feel like Fujimoto is definitely making some kind of commentary here with this.

I think that eating the aging devil will bring about something horrible. People not being able to age carries consequences as you mentioned.

Also, Molester Girl needs to feel Pochita's wrath. I saw fans begin to speculate that she is indeed The Death Devil but I feel like Nayuta would have picked that up.
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Post#1982 » by DOT » Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:29 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:CSM 174:

Man, people are just the worst

Spoiler:
Also, they really trust a devil? Seriously, they think "oh this devil is asking for 10,000 children to die for no reason, let's take it at its word"?

I can't help but feel like this is thematic, cause if the aging devil gets eaten, it means everybody freezes at their current age. Babies will be babies forever, old people will continue on forever regardless of how decrepit they are, and sacrificing literal children to hold on to power is symbolic of how the boomers refuse to give up power and actively sabotage future generations

Also, Chainsaw man eating the mouth devil seems deliberate, like I don't think public safety sent it to him, it looks like he hunted it down so they couldn't make him throw anything up.


Spoiler:
Sacrificing a future generation to maintain power is 100% Boomer behavior that is multicutural. I feel like Fujimoto is definitely making some kind of commentary here with this.

I think that eating the aging devil will bring about something horrible. People not being able to age carries consequences as you mentioned.

Also, Molester Girl needs to feel Pochita's wrath. I saw fans begin to speculate that she is indeed The Death Devil but I feel like Nayuta would have picked that up.

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I'm just questioning whether or not the aging devil is being 100% truthful here

It has less to do with the obvious downsides and more, if a devil asks you to sacrifice a bunch of people to it and tells you it will be compliant, maybe don't believe it? It would fit with the theme of old people sacrificing the youth only to have it blow up in their faces.
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Post#1983 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:48 pm

DOT wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:CSM 174:

Man, people are just the worst

Spoiler:
Also, they really trust a devil? Seriously, they think "oh this devil is asking for 10,000 children to die for no reason, let's take it at its word"?

I can't help but feel like this is thematic, cause if the aging devil gets eaten, it means everybody freezes at their current age. Babies will be babies forever, old people will continue on forever regardless of how decrepit they are, and sacrificing literal children to hold on to power is symbolic of how the boomers refuse to give up power and actively sabotage future generations

Also, Chainsaw man eating the mouth devil seems deliberate, like I don't think public safety sent it to him, it looks like he hunted it down so they couldn't make him throw anything up.


Spoiler:
Sacrificing a future generation to maintain power is 100% Boomer behavior that is multicutural. I feel like Fujimoto is definitely making some kind of commentary here with this.

I think that eating the aging devil will bring about something horrible. People not being able to age carries consequences as you mentioned.

Also, Molester Girl needs to feel Pochita's wrath. I saw fans begin to speculate that she is indeed The Death Devil but I feel like Nayuta would have picked that up.

Spoiler:
I'm just questioning whether or not the aging devil is being 100% truthful here

It has less to do with the obvious downsides and more, if a devil asks you to sacrifice a bunch of people to it and tells you it will be compliant, maybe don't believe it? It would fit with the theme of old people sacrificing the youth only to have it blow up in their faces.


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Yeah dude and i don't recall anything in the series that says a Devil has to be truthful to humans either. They very well could be lying....have we seen any Devil for that matter that's trustworthy?

This is about to make The Gun Devil massacre look like a minor incident.
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Post#1984 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:09 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Spoiler:
Sacrificing a future generation to maintain power is 100% Boomer behavior that is multicutural. I feel like Fujimoto is definitely making some kind of commentary here with this.

I think that eating the aging devil will bring about something horrible. People not being able to age carries consequences as you mentioned.

Also, Molester Girl needs to feel Pochita's wrath. I saw fans begin to speculate that she is indeed The Death Devil but I feel like Nayuta would have picked that up.

Spoiler:
I'm just questioning whether or not the aging devil is being 100% truthful here

It has less to do with the obvious downsides and more, if a devil asks you to sacrifice a bunch of people to it and tells you it will be compliant, maybe don't believe it? It would fit with the theme of old people sacrificing the youth only to have it blow up in their faces.


Spoiler:
Yeah dude and i don't recall anything in the series that says a Devil has to be truthful to humans either. They very well could be lying....have we seen any Devil for that matter that's trustworthy?

This is about to make The Gun Devil massacre look like a minor incident.


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Someone on reddit pointed out that everything that has been erased so far by Pochita is related to Denji's past traumas. Like for instance:

Snow devil = denji and aki's snowball fight scene.

Ears = Makima's seduction scene where she made Denji memorize the feel of her ears.

Mouth = Himeno vomiting in Denji's mouth, and Reze biting off his tongue

Bitterness = The taste of Coffee makes Denji think of Reze.

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Post#1985 » by DOT » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:10 pm

OP 1123:

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Post#1986 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:29 pm

Looks like One Piece S2 on Netflix is not gonna get to Alabasta...yo, I hope these guys don't age out...there are so many arcs to get through.
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Post#1987 » by DOT » Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:53 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:Looks like One Piece S2 on Netflix is not gonna get to Alabasta...yo, I hope these guys don't age out...there are so many arcs to get through.

Alabasta is big enough it kinda needs its own season, especially at the rate they went through in season 1

They got through Arlong Park, which is the first 95 chapters of the manga, Alabasta is chapters 155-217

Especially if they're gonna adapt the Koby and Helmeppo training and make that its own side story to keep them and Garp involved in the plot, that'll add some runtime

I don't think it's gonna get through the whole manga, but how they adapt Little Garden is gonna say a lot about how far they expect to go, given the events of Egghead.
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Post#1988 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:27 pm

I just read Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 267's raw pages, the end of The Shinjuku Showdown.



That's all I could hear in my head when reading it.
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Post#1990 » by DOT » Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:44 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I just read Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 267's raw pages, the end of The Shinjuku Showdown.



That's all I could hear in my head when reading it.

Here's my issue

Spoiler:
We have 4 chapters left

Nobara isn't gonna get any real development, plus she's been gone for the majority of the manga. I'm not even joking, she went out in chapter 125, 142 chapters ago

I get Gege's trying to pull off a twist, but you could've worked her back into the story before now, had her be an actual character in it, and still had her come out of nowhere to RKO Sukuna when he least expects it

It just goes back to my overall problem with late-stage JJK, the streamlining of everything leading to just action scenes without
breaths for reaction scenes really kills the character development. It drops it down a peg from being potentially incredible to just really good. Lots of wasted potential, same thing as MHA.
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Post#1991 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:26 pm

DOT wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I just read Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 267's raw pages, the end of The Shinjuku Showdown.



That's all I could hear in my head when reading it.

Here's my issue

Spoiler:
We have 4 chapters left

Nobara isn't gonna get any real development, plus she's been gone for the majority of the manga. I'm not even joking, she went out in chapter 125, 142 chapters ago

I get Gege's trying to pull off a twist, but you could've worked her back into the story before now, had her be an actual character in it, and still had her come out of nowhere to RKO Sukuna when he least expects it

It just goes back to my overall problem with late-stage JJK, the streamlining of everything leading to just action scenes without
breaths for reaction scenes really kills the character development. It drops it down a peg from being potentially incredible to just really good. Lots of wasted potential, same thing as MHA.


Indeed.

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Late stage JJK is really bad, I agree. As a fan I was happy to see her again, but the execution of this is terrible.

Nobara was one of many characters who ended up just being not written well by Gege after a strong start.

He makes a bunch of cool characters and then seemingly doesn't know what to do with them. Look at how Kenjaku was handled. They were an interesting villain and we don't even get anything on him or his time as Yuji's mother, or the past. Gojo may be the most developed character in the series and even then how he ended was just plain odd.

I feel like his editor failed him too. Character development went out the window right after The Shibuya Incident in favor of shock moments and non stop fighting.

JJK is a success and no one can take that away from Gege, but this is not an example of what I'd point to as a well written series. Fans give Demon Slayer sh*t for being straightforward, but I'll take The Infinity Castle and Countdown to Sunrise over The Culling Games and The Shinjuku Showdown ten times out of ten.
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Post#1992 » by DOT » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:10 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I just read Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 267's raw pages, the end of The Shinjuku Showdown.



That's all I could hear in my head when reading it.

Here's my issue

Spoiler:
We have 4 chapters left

Nobara isn't gonna get any real development, plus she's been gone for the majority of the manga. I'm not even joking, she went out in chapter 125, 142 chapters ago

I get Gege's trying to pull off a twist, but you could've worked her back into the story before now, had her be an actual character in it, and still had her come out of nowhere to RKO Sukuna when he least expects it

It just goes back to my overall problem with late-stage JJK, the streamlining of everything leading to just action scenes without
breaths for reaction scenes really kills the character development. It drops it down a peg from being potentially incredible to just really good. Lots of wasted potential, same thing as MHA.


Indeed.

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Late stage JJK is really bad, I agree. As a fan I was happy to see her again, but the execution of this is terrible.

Nobara was one of many characters who ended up just being not written well by Gege after a strong start.

He makes a bunch of cool characters and then seemingly doesn't know what to do with them. Look at how Kenjaku was handled. They were an interesting villain and we don't even get anything on him or his time as Yuji's mother, or the past. Gojo may be the most developed character in the series and even then how he ended was just plain odd.

I feel like his editor failed him too. Character development went out the window right after The Shibuya Incident in favor of shock moments and non stop fighting.

JJK is a success and no one can take that away from Gege, but this is not an example of what I'd point to as a well written series. Fans give Demon Slayer sh*t for being straightforward, but I'll take The Infinity Castle and Countdown to Sunrise over The Culling Games and The Shinjuku Showdown ten times out of ten.

Hey, I don't give Demon Slayer sh*t for being straightforward, I'm just saying it limits what its ceiling is in all time rankings :lol:

It and JJK end up in similar positions in those rankings though, both are really good but neither achieved greatness. Just, series like JJK or MHA made you think they would at the start, which is why they're somewhat disappointing.
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Post#1993 » by DOT » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:53 pm

OP 1124:

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I really like the character development of Borsalino this arc. I think people are trying too hard to make him into one of the good guys, but personally I've always held that his thing is he understands the difference between good and evil but won't actually do the right thing if it conflicts with his orders. The official translation says "close friend", but I think the unofficial translation of "best friend" works better, and it starts a theme with the original 3 admirals. Aokiji "killed" his best friend Saul, and now Borsalino kills his best friend Vegapunk, both for betraying the World Government. I heard a theory that Sakazuki's "best friend" used to be Dragon, and the two fought and that's what drove Dragon out of the Marines. Which would be super interesting if it's true

Also not really a cop-out being "in short, everybody's alive", cause they are dead, just not completely. They're all just aspects of one personality after all, I think what happened is they all got uploaded to Lilith, so she has all their memories or something. So, yeah, still dead, but somewhat alive from a certain point of view.
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Post#1994 » by DOT » Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:44 pm

JJK 268:

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The more I sit with this, the more I think it's emblematic of the problems with JJK

Having Megumi and Yuji having no reaction to Nobara being alive kind of mirrors my reaction to it. Yeah, cool, but I'm sort of ambivalent to it. I like her as a character, but it's been so long and the reveal was kind of underwhelming, and she was fridged because Gege didn't want to write around her, so it's just kind of whatever


3 chapters left and my general feeling is I get why we're at this point, I just think the execution in getting here was at best lackluster. Similar to my feelings on GoT season 8, logically it makes sense, I just think you needed to do a better job fleshing out the story.
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Post#1995 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:21 pm

DOT wrote:JJK 268:

Spoiler:
The more I sit with this, the more I think it's emblematic of the problems with JJK

Having Megumi and Yuji having no reaction to Nobara being alive kind of mirrors my reaction to it. Yeah, cool, but I'm sort of ambivalent to it. I like her as a character, but it's been so long and the reveal was kind of underwhelming, and she was fridged because Gege didn't want to write around her, so it's just kind of whatever


3 chapters left and my general feeling is I get why we're at this point, I just think the execution in getting here was at best lackluster. Similar to my feelings on GoT season 8, logically it makes sense, I just think you needed to do a better job fleshing out the story.


The execution was terrible and it's more emblematic of Gege just wanting to be done with this and retire.

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If I'm not mistaken, back during the Culling Games, while the reader didn't know, Megumi and Yuji knew that she was in a coma but that was it.

I feel like her character was just wasted just to set up the final finisher. I have no issue with how Sukuna was beaten by the main trio, but there could have been a way better method of handling Nobara, a character he was forced to create by his editor to begin with so that the series wasn't a complete sausage fest. It's a shame to, because she was a really fun character.

At the end of the day though, this was really bad. We learned very little about Sukuna, Kenjaku, and Urame (seriously wtf was that?). What was done to Fushigoro's sister was awful writing, we hardly got to know her. I can point to numerous plot lines that just went nowhere or unanswered.


I try not to be too critical because the toll a weekly serial takes on a person is horrible, but this is just another sign that Shonen Jump needs to change their business model. This is a clear case of burn out.
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Post#1996 » by DOT » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:01 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:JJK 268:

Spoiler:
The more I sit with this, the more I think it's emblematic of the problems with JJK

Having Megumi and Yuji having no reaction to Nobara being alive kind of mirrors my reaction to it. Yeah, cool, but I'm sort of ambivalent to it. I like her as a character, but it's been so long and the reveal was kind of underwhelming, and she was fridged because Gege didn't want to write around her, so it's just kind of whatever


3 chapters left and my general feeling is I get why we're at this point, I just think the execution in getting here was at best lackluster. Similar to my feelings on GoT season 8, logically it makes sense, I just think you needed to do a better job fleshing out the story.


The execution was terrible and it's more emblematic of Gege just wanting to be done with this and retire.

Spoiler:
If I'm not mistaken, back during the Culling Games, while the reader didn't know, Megumi and Yuji knew that she was in a coma but that was it.

I feel like her character was just wasted just to set up the final finisher. I have no issue with how Sukuna was beaten by the main trio, but there could have been a way better method of handling Nobara, a character he was forced to create by his editor to begin with so that the series wasn't a complete sausage fest. It's a shame to, because she was a really fun character.

At the end of the day though, this was really bad. We learned very little about Sukuna, Kenjaku, and Urame (seriously wtf was that?). What was done to Fushigoro's sister was awful writing, we hardly got to know her. I can point to numerous plot lines that just went nowhere or unanswered.


I try not to be too critical because the toll a weekly serial takes on a person is horrible, but this is just another sign that Shonen Jump needs to change their business model. This is a clear case of burn out.

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Post#1997 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:35 pm

DOT wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:JJK 268:

Spoiler:
The more I sit with this, the more I think it's emblematic of the problems with JJK

Having Megumi and Yuji having no reaction to Nobara being alive kind of mirrors my reaction to it. Yeah, cool, but I'm sort of ambivalent to it. I like her as a character, but it's been so long and the reveal was kind of underwhelming, and she was fridged because Gege didn't want to write around her, so it's just kind of whatever


3 chapters left and my general feeling is I get why we're at this point, I just think the execution in getting here was at best lackluster. Similar to my feelings on GoT season 8, logically it makes sense, I just think you needed to do a better job fleshing out the story.


The execution was terrible and it's more emblematic of Gege just wanting to be done with this and retire.

Spoiler:
If I'm not mistaken, back during the Culling Games, while the reader didn't know, Megumi and Yuji knew that she was in a coma but that was it.

I feel like her character was just wasted just to set up the final finisher. I have no issue with how Sukuna was beaten by the main trio, but there could have been a way better method of handling Nobara, a character he was forced to create by his editor to begin with so that the series wasn't a complete sausage fest. It's a shame to, because she was a really fun character.

At the end of the day though, this was really bad. We learned very little about Sukuna, Kenjaku, and Urame (seriously wtf was that?). What was done to Fushigoro's sister was awful writing, we hardly got to know her. I can point to numerous plot lines that just went nowhere or unanswered.


I try not to be too critical because the toll a weekly serial takes on a person is horrible, but this is just another sign that Shonen Jump needs to change their business model. This is a clear case of burn out.

Regarding Urame:



:lol:

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Yeah like...Urame was interesting based on the fact that she/they are the only character that was close to Sukuna...and we learned nothing about them. Why did they serve him? Love? Where did the devotion come from? How did they come to be basically inseparable even in death? What was the extent of their relationship?


What a waste.
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Post#1998 » by TerrenceClarke » Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:25 pm

I know that Dragon Ball writer is a legend and deserves his respect and gets it from me ,but to me he is one of the worst writers I have ever seen in any genre with Dragon Ball Z. I forgot how cheesy this show is.

He is good at creating characters, but that is about it.

And it has nothing to do with the era cause there are plenty of Japanese media from the same era with much better writing.

After just watching the Cell saga. That has to be one of the dumbest things I ever seen.

Freiza saga was still cheesy but better and more enjoyable. But Cell saga was annoying to sit thru and I’m watching the Kai version at that.

He is the master of cheese writing.

I remember when people used to try to claim dragon ball was better than Naruto.

I’m trying to figure out on what planet is that.

Respect to the OG of most of what we see today, but still…..Bad writing ….is bad writing.

With all that said I’m still going to by Sparking Zero when it comes out.

But I have to keep it real on the writing.
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Post#1999 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Sep 3, 2024 3:43 pm

Chainsaw Man Chapter 176

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"Come to Mother..."

Spoiler:
Uh Pochita Man is about to get clapped
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Post#2000 » by DOT » Tue Sep 3, 2024 3:53 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Chainsaw Man Chapter 176

:o

"Come to Mother..."

Spoiler:
Uh Pochita Man is about to get clapped

Spoiler:
"With her life on the line, Yoru made a binding vow..."


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