OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us

[Luv those Knicks]

This is sad. Darnold >> Daniel Jones

Drew Lock > Daniel Jones too.

[DaGawd]

please draft shaduer sanders you old fk

[Ghetto Gospel]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

[mpharris36]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

very fair after that performance.

Add Daboll into the discussion as well...thought he called an atrocious game.

Obviously we have issues in the QB room but they can change that next year. But I'm talking about the overall roster right now. Where are the impact players? Do we want this group picking the next QB?

Anyone not named Dexter Lawerence better look hard at themselves because this season could turn into a disaster quick.

[DaGawd]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

very fair after that performance.

Add Daboll into the discussion as well...thought he called an atrocious game.

Obviously we have issues in the QB room but they can change that next year. But I'm talking about the overall roster right now. Where are the impact players? Do we want this group picking the next QB?

Anyone not named Dexter Lawerence better look hard at themselves because this season could turn into a disaster quick.

we looked cooked against a team not even projected to be that much better than us at home… def not looking good for this regime

[Kampuchea]

please draft shaduer sanders you old fk

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft

Beck or Sanders

[Ghetto Gospel]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

very fair after that performance.

Add Daboll into the discussion as well...thought he called an atrocious game.

Obviously we have issues in the QB room but they can change that next year. But I'm talking about the overall roster right now. Where are the impact players? Do we want this group picking the next QB?

Anyone not named Dexter Lawerence better look hard at themselves because this season could turn into a disaster quick.

joe schoen

>> got his career off of brandon beane drafting josh allen
>> gave daniel jones 160m
>> 3 1st round draft picks, 2 in the top 7, all busts
>> every other draft pick is a bust
>> traded a low 2nd for a pass rusher who had 0 impact on a losing team to pay him 150m to have 0 impact on our losing team
>> after 3 years as GM trots out a team whose best players come from the previous regime

[Ghetto Gospel]

please draft shaduer sanders you old fk

lol, we're drafting quinn ewers or carson beck, let's be real

[mpharris36]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

very fair after that performance.

Add Daboll into the discussion as well...thought he called an atrocious game.

Obviously we have issues in the QB room but they can change that next year. But I'm talking about the overall roster right now. Where are the impact players? Do we want this group picking the next QB?

Anyone not named Dexter Lawerence better look hard at themselves because this season could turn into a disaster quick.

we looked cooked against a team not even projected to be that much better than us at home… def not looking good for this regime

yeah I mean this should have been a competitive game. Hot take I was more disappointed with our defense than our offense. I say that because we know we don't have a QB that is going to come back from a multiple score deficit...that is certainly not how this team is going to win just dropping back a ton of time and trying to come back.

We got that early turnover and then after that the defense was horrible.

Got that PI call (questionable) but then Darnold started cookin us. And we invested a ton of assets into our D-line and Dexter was the only one who showed up.

We had a 3 and out to start the 3rd when this was still a game and then KT (who did absolutely nothing all game) got that face mask which then instead of punting Vikings went down and scored again.

When Dexter went to the bench a few times our dline was gashed for big runs.

I thought our play calls were also unimaginatory. Like the screen that got picked off and ran back for a TD when technically it was still a game...whats the point of that play...from my couch I knew that was going to be a quick screen...everyone knew it...why is Daboll calling that?

[3toheadmelo]

please draft shaduer sanders you old fk

lol, we're drafting quinn ewers or carson beck, let's be real

how much of a downgrade are those guys compared to shaduer

[DaGawd]

please draft shaduer sanders you old fk

lol, we're drafting quinn ewers or carson beck, let's be real

how much of a downgrade are those guys compared to shaduer

they’re arguably better or on par so it wouldn’t be a bad thing

[3toheadmelo]

lol, we're drafting quinn ewers or carson beck, let's be real

how much of a downgrade are those guys compared to shaduer

they’re arguably better or on par so it wouldn’t be a bad thing

count me in

[3toheadmelo]

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[Ghetto Gospel]

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[Ghetto Gospel]

daboll was better when he was fat, someone needs to take away his ozempic stash

[DaGawd]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/MHcAxWWxtP26RzaL/?mibextid=CTbP7E

ouch

[Synciere]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

This is the regimes third year. They came in hamstrung by a young qb that wasn’t good, isn’t good, and looking like hell never be good. I don’t know how Schoen or Daboll felt about Danny coming in, but we know Mara loved/loves him, and Mara’s rhetoric is echoed throughout the fan base. He’s made more excuses for Danny than anybody. If you’re Schoen, in order to get the job you basically have to commit to making it work with Danny. Do you take the job with that arm tied behind your back?? Of course! There are only 32 GM jobs. Can’t bank on a better situation coming up later.

To me a GM’s job is threefold: players and acquisitions, coaches and staff like scouts, and resource allocation I.e salary cap and contracts. He hasn’t drafted a true stud yet. He did trade for one in Burns in a deal most analysts say we largely won. Par. Daboll looked like a great coach the playoff year but in other years he’s failed to build a cohesive staff that can succeed. The scouts have yet to identify mid to late round gems every good to great team needs to build a contender. That or the coaches aren’t developing them. Either way, Bogey at best, and based on the way asst coaches keep trying to bail, probably double bogey. Great contracts have been given to Dex and Thomas, and Okereke was an excellent signing in hindsight, but the Daniel Jones contract at this point is such a debacle, especially when he could’ve given him a fifth year option, or franchise him instead of signing that deal. Then we lose two of our best players in Saquon and McKinney, and that portion feels like a double bogey too, especially since he didn’t draft Thomas or Dex.

The Schoen/Daboll combo isn’t working yet, but I wouldn’t get rid of them either. I really think the stench of Danny is that great, and has clouded the whole picture and the owners mind.

[TerrenceClarke]

Like I said earlier the money spent is the most crazy part. Like how do you show no improvement with this amount spent.

Scohen is really terrible at identifying talent.

You are literally worse than Getty at your Job.

Macado , Shurmur, Judge, Daboll….

But a Blackman can’t get a chance at HC?

[TerrenceClarke]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

This is the regimes third year. They came in hamstrung by a young qb that wasn’t good, isn’t good, and looking like hell never be good. I don’t know how Schoen or Daboll felt about Danny coming in, but we know Mara loved/loves him, and Mara’s rhetoric is echoed throughout the fan base. He’s made more excuses for Danny than anybody. If you’re Schoen, in order to get the job you basically have to commit to making it work with Danny. Do you take the job with that arm tied behind your back?? Of course! There are only 32 GM jobs. Can’t bank on a better situation coming up later.

To me a GM’s job is threefold: players and acquisitions, coaches and staff like scouts, and resource allocation I.e salary cap and contracts. He hasn’t drafted a true stud yet. He did trade for one in Burns in a deal most analysts say we largely won. Par. Daboll looked like a great coach the playoff year but in other years he’s failed to build a cohesive staff that can succeed. The scouts have yet to identify mid to late round gems every good to great team needs to build a contender. That or the coaches aren’t developing them. Either way, Bogey at best, and based on the way asst coaches keep trying to bail, probably double bogey. Great contracts have been given to Dex and Thomas, and Okereke was an excellent signing in hindsight, but the Daniel Jones contract at this point is such a debacle, especially when he could’ve given him a fifth year option, or franchise him instead of signing that deal. Then we lose two of our best players in Saquon and McKinney, and that portion feels like a double bogey too, especially since he didn’t draft Thomas or Dex.

The Schoen/Daboll combo isn’t working yet, but I wouldn’t get rid of them either. I really think the stench of Danny is that great, and has clouded the whole picture and the owners mind.

what you mean hamstrung.

They could have let DJ go after year one.
So no they weren’t hamstrung.

Schoen was actually blessed to be in that situation and fumbled the ball by giving him a contract when he was ass that year as well.

Nah this ain’t all on DJ.

Schoen and Daboll suck at their Job as well.Saying anything else is disregarding the facts that has been shown.

Daboll only successful track record is having a generational level QB who is still playing at an elite level without Daboll.

Schoen was under bean and looks like he learned nothing once he steps outside of the shadow of a good GM.

There is no way in hell if they were both competent in their jobs , should we be looking like this three years after Getty.

I can’t jack anything you saying here.

All three is buns and need to go.

What more do you neees from Daboll and Schoen a fourth year of the same nonsense?

We made the playoffs off a roster Getty built by smoke and mirrors , but we have largely sucked since day one with those two at the top.

[Ghetto Gospel]

we need more joe schoen discourse on this board

This is the regimes third year. They came in hamstrung by a young qb that wasn’t good, isn’t good, and looking like hell never be good. I don’t know how Schoen or Daboll felt about Danny coming in, but we know Mara loved/loves him, and Mara’s rhetoric is echoed throughout the fan base. He’s made more excuses for Danny than anybody. If you’re Schoen, in order to get the job you basically have to commit to making it work with Danny. Do you take the job with that arm tied behind your back?? Of course! There are only 32 GM jobs. Can’t bank on a better situation coming up later.

To me a GM’s job is threefold: players and acquisitions, coaches and staff like scouts, and resource allocation I.e salary cap and contracts. He hasn’t drafted a true stud yet. He did trade for one in Burns in a deal most analysts say we largely won. Par. Daboll looked like a great coach the playoff year but in other years he’s failed to build a cohesive staff that can succeed. The scouts have yet to identify mid to late round gems every good to great team needs to build a contender. That or the coaches aren’t developing them. Either way, Bogey at best, and based on the way asst coaches keep trying to bail, probably double bogey. Great contracts have been given to Dex and Thomas, and Okereke was an excellent signing in hindsight, but the Daniel Jones contract at this point is such a debacle, especially when he could’ve given him a fifth year option, or franchise him instead of signing that deal. Then we lose two of our best players in Saquon and McKinney, and that portion feels like a double bogey too, especially since he didn’t draft Thomas or Dex.

The Schoen/Daboll combo isn’t working yet, but I wouldn’t get rid of them either. I really think the stench of Danny is that great, and has clouded the whole picture and the owners mind.

are we sure mara loves danny? in that hard knocks episode, he seemed comfortable with allowing schoen to trade up to get a new qb. realistically, everyone including mara is going to publicly praise danny.

not all analysts agreed that the burns trade was a win too. some of them thought he was just a good not great player. they were mostly panning the panthers for having been offered 2 1st rounders and now only able to extract a 2nd. regardless, do we care what the analysts have to say about our draft picks and trades though? all i care about is results. tv analysts aren't getting paid what schoen is getting paid nor do they have the resources and support staff that schoen has.

the danny stench i understand for offense, but this defense isn't good either. that's that schoen stench on our defense