Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At?

[TheGreenArrow]

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[Jalen Bluntson]

Yeah, I get the feeling that this Randle-at-C stuff is like putting a brave face on a not-so-good situation.

I suppose our FO underestimated how much $$$ OKC was going to through at iHart and got busy with stuff like the Bridges trade, hoping that iHart would let us match any offer he'd get. Plus, weren't we facing the hard cap until we managed to restructure the Bridges trade? While the best FAs got scooped up really fast.

As for not drafting Filipowski, who knows why? This FO has been pretty loathe to add first round picks, and the belief has been that Thibs does not really like playing rookies. Even the French guy was originally viewed as a stash pick, until he proclaimed his firm intention to come over to the NBA right away. Plus, Kyle's GF story did not help.

In any case, the team indeed feels a bit unfinished, but, hey, maybe the management is counting on something popping up before the trade deadline. And in the meantime, Precious is not the worst option at backup C/PF.

This is riddled with false statements. We couldn't match Sharts offer because we didn't have full bird rights. We could only offer 17mil per or so.

Where did I state otherwise? The Knicks would have matched an offer for less than 17m or so and many were hoping that iHart would give the Knicks a discount. But it was shocking to see that he got so much more from OKC, so leaving that much money on the table would have been crazy.

No one ever said Pacome was going to be a stash.

This article said so:
https://nypost.com/2024/06/26/sports/knicks-select-french-wing-pacome-dadiet-with-no-25-pick-in-nba-draft/

It's not even up to him. The team added multiple first round picks and even 2nd round picks to the rotation over the last several years. Thibs played a few rookies IQ/Grimes/Obi/Deuce were examples.

No one said that Thibs did not play rookies at all. But lots of people complained he did not play them enough.

Bridges deal has nothing to do with anything.

Check this out.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/knicks-complete-mikal-bridges-trade-000300393.html

Quote from the article: If the trade were to be completed as is, however, the Knicks would be hard-capped at the $178.13 million first apron, meaning under no circumstances would they be allowed to have a payroll exceeding that number this season, the reason being they are taking back more money in Bridges’ $23.3 million salary than they are sending out in Bogdanovic’s $19 million salary.

Kyle's GF story? Huh?

Uh-huh. This one I will let you Google on your own.

Welcome to the board BALLBOY! Now STFU AND GTFO!!

Cheers! Love your nick!

Ummm. No bro. None of this spin is what you said. Sorry.

Bridges trade was getting done the way it was finalized from jump. They weren't going to hard cap at the first apron. It has nothing to do with The Shart situation.

No one thought Shart was gonna give us a discount and they couldn't match any offer over the max we could offer. 17.5 per. He was offered more than anyone expected but, OKC was always a threat. They gave him the bag. I mentioned how the team hasn't shown a sense of urgency to fill the center position from last year. Not sure why they didn't grab any FAs but, they didn't.

You claimed the FO was "pretty loathe" to add first rd picks and Thibs doesn't like to play rookies. We added first rd picks and second rd picks and played them AS ROOKIES.

Welcome to the board BALL BOY!

[Wildcat]

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This aligns with some of the rumbles from a few months ago after the trade. I think even Bridges somewhat admitted he wasn't sure what his role on the team was because Dennis took the ball out of his hand and prior to that Cam was up and coming and I did read elsewhere that the Nets were high on Cam. Firing him midseason wouldn't change the approach because Cam was still had strong support from Joe.

[3toheadmelo]

We might be cooked I just saw a new clip of mikal working out and it looks like the hitch is back in his jumper wtf

[NiceLikeChrist]

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He was not moving like this with us….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a lot of centers look like guards in pickup games. hell i even saw andre drummond in person last year at a pro league game and dude was looking like steph curry.

we get a video of mitch doing this every offseason. 3's included. I think the one for this summer already dropped

[SOMEKnicks]

This is riddled with false statements. We couldn't match Sharts offer because we didn't have full bird rights. We could only offer 17mil per or so.

Where did I state otherwise? The Knicks would have matched an offer for less than 17m or so and many were hoping that iHart would give the Knicks a discount. But it was shocking to see that he got so much more from OKC, so leaving that much money on the table would have been crazy.

No one ever said Pacome was going to be a stash.

This article said so:
https://nypost.com/2024/06/26/sports/knicks-select-french-wing-pacome-dadiet-with-no-25-pick-in-nba-draft/

Ummm. No bro. None of this spin is what you said. Sorry.

Bridges trade was getting done the way it was finalized from jump. They weren't going to hard cap at the first apron. It has nothing to do with The Shart situation.

No one thought Shart was gonna give us a discount and they couldn't match any offer over the max we could offer. 17.5 per. He was offered more than anyone expected but, OKC was always a threat. They gave him the bag. I mentioned how the team hasn't shown a sense of urgency to fill the center position from last year. Not sure why they didn't grab any FAs but, they didn't.

You claimed the FO was "pretty loathe" to add first rd picks and Thibs doesn't like to play rookies. We added first rd picks and second rd picks and played them AS ROOKIES.

Welcome to the board BALL BOY!

I claimed that FO was loathe to add first round picks. Which is why we have been trading them, and instead signing experienced players. We did this in 2022 and again in 2024.

I provide factual evidence as basis for my opinions. You provide none. If you want to have a constructive discussion, you better start leaning on facts. If you want to just screw around, do it with someone else.

Thanks for the welcome, ballgirl.

[Wildcat]

We might be cooked I just saw a new clip of mikal working out and it looks like the hitch is back in his jumper wtf

I'm not about that noise right now. Stay in your lane.

But seriously, when did it go away?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Where did I state otherwise? The Knicks would have matched an offer for less than 17m or so and many were hoping that iHart would give the Knicks a discount. But it was shocking to see that he got so much more from OKC, so leaving that much money on the table would have been crazy.



This article said so:
https://nypost.com/2024/06/26/sports/knicks-select-french-wing-pacome-dadiet-with-no-25-pick-in-nba-draft/

I claimed that FO was loathe to add first round picks. Which is why we have been trading them, and instead signing experienced players. We did this in 2022 and again in 2024.

I provide factual evidence as basis for my opinions. You provide none. If you want to have a constructive discussion, you better start leaning on facts. If you want to just screw around, do it with someone else.

Thanks for the welcome, ballgirl.

Bullshyt. No need to lie.

[Iron Mantis]

The Potential Role Shift with Mikal Bridges

Randle’s role may undergo further changes with the acquisition of Mikal Bridges and the extension of OG Anunoby. Bridges, known for his versatility and scoring, could push Randle down to the third option in the Knicks’ pecking order. Last season, Randle averaged 24 points per game, while Bridges put up 19.6 points over 34.8 minutes per game with the Brooklyn Nets.

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/the-knicks-might-have-a-new-no-2-scorer/

Let the Nova Knicks cook.

[Wildcat]

The Potential Role Shift with Mikal Bridges

Randle’s role may undergo further changes with the acquisition of Mikal Bridges and the extension of OG Anunoby. Bridges, known for his versatility and scoring, could push Randle down to the third option in the Knicks’ pecking order. Last season, Randle averaged 24 points per game, while Bridges put up 19.6 points over 34.8 minutes per game with the Brooklyn Nets.

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/the-knicks-might-have-a-new-no-2-scorer/

Let the Nova Knicks cook.

Heh, this is such a garbage article worthy of toilet reading.

[Besart19]

We might be cooked I just saw a new clip of mikal working out and it looks like the hitch is back in his jumper wtf

He will be either the mix of Spree and Houston or the mix of Shump and Fields

[Besart19]

we need to push the pace in order to get more shots and generate easier shots in transition... also players would be less tired come playoff time

Brunson 18-21 shots
Randle 13-17 shots
Mikal 12-16 shots
Donte 11-15 shots
Anunoby 10-14 shots
Josh Hart 7-10 shots
McBride 6-8 shots
Robinson 5-8 shots
Achiuwa 4-7 shots
Diop or Shamet 4-6 shots
Payne or Kolek 3-6 shots

we need at least 93 shots per game to please everybody... 100 would be ideal and with that we also would not depend much on the free throws disparity typical for the `Bockers

[Iron Mantis]

The Potential Role Shift with Mikal Bridges

Randle’s role may undergo further changes with the acquisition of Mikal Bridges and the extension of OG Anunoby. Bridges, known for his versatility and scoring, could push Randle down to the third option in the Knicks’ pecking order. Last season, Randle averaged 24 points per game, while Bridges put up 19.6 points over 34.8 minutes per game with the Brooklyn Nets.

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/the-knicks-might-have-a-new-no-2-scorer/

Let the Nova Knicks cook.

Heh, this is such a garbage article worthy of toilet reading.

Why?

[3toheadmelo]

We might be cooked I just saw a new clip of mikal working out and it looks like the hitch is back in his jumper wtf

I'm not about that noise right now. Stay in your lane.

But seriously, when did it go away?

I don’t think I remember it looking this pronounced
https://www.instagram.com/formshooting/reel/DAGs4oCxqLY/?hl=en

[3toheadmelo]

The Potential Role Shift with Mikal Bridges

Randle’s role may undergo further changes with the acquisition of Mikal Bridges and the extension of OG Anunoby. Bridges, known for his versatility and scoring, could push Randle down to the third option in the Knicks’ pecking order. Last season, Randle averaged 24 points per game, while Bridges put up 19.6 points over 34.8 minutes per game with the Brooklyn Nets.

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/the-knicks-might-have-a-new-no-2-scorer/

Let the Nova Knicks cook.

Heh, this is such a garbage article worthy of toilet reading.

Everyone and their momma knows that the Knicks didn’t bring Mikal here to be our second option

[aggo]

Randle for embiid

[Wildcat]

We might be cooked I just saw a new clip of mikal working out and it looks like the hitch is back in his jumper wtf

I'm not about that noise right now. Stay in your lane.

But seriously, when did it go away?

I don’t think I remember it looking this pronounced
https://www.instagram.com/formshooting/reel/DAGs4oCxqLY/?hl=en

Might be the angle of the first few shoots? It looks "normal" when he's shooting from the left side. But yeah, the first few shoots do seem a bit hitchy.

[3toheadmelo]

I'm not about that noise right now. Stay in your lane.

But seriously, when did it go away?

I don’t think I remember it looking this pronounced
https://www.instagram.com/formshooting/reel/DAGs4oCxqLY/?hl=en

Might be the angle of the first few shoots? It looks "normal" when he's shooting from the left side. But yeah, the first few shoots do seem a bit hitchy.

Yeah maybe its just the angle. Hopefully I'm just overreacting lol

[Wildcat]

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/the-knicks-might-have-a-new-no-2-scorer/

Let the Nova Knicks cook.

Heh, this is such a garbage article worthy of toilet reading.

Why?

I don't regard Empire Sports Media highly. There's not even a connective link in the article.

Randle’s role may undergo further changes with the acquisition of Mikal Bridges and the extension of OG Anunoby. Bridges, known for his versatility and scoring, could push Randle down to the third option in the Knicks’ pecking order. Last season, Randle averaged 24 points per game, while Bridges put up 19.6 points over 34.8 minutes per game with the Brooklyn Nets.

Okay. What's the reason? Why is Bridges pushing Randle to a 3rd option? Because of previous injuries? But then he follows up by saying:

Bridges‘ value extends beyond his scoring ability—his durability has been unmatched throughout his career. He played in all 82 games last season and hasn’t played fewer than 72 games in any season. The Knicks will rely on his consistency and expect him to play heavy minutes, helping ease the load on Randle, who has been a workhorse for the Knicks for years. Despite his recent injury, the Knicks are counting on Randle to return to form, playing more than 35 minutes per game.

You say he's going to be pushed out, but then say he's expected to return to form? Where's the connection?

It's not a good article and the idea that Bridges should be the 2nd option isn't a great idea at all. Teams are not going to double Bridges as much as they'll double Randle. Bridges outside shooting and slashing is perfect for a 3rd option. He can do more with less.

[spree2kawhi]

We might be cooked I just saw a new clip of mikal working out and it looks like the hitch is back in his jumper wtf

He will be either the mix of Spree and Houston or the mix of Shump and Fields

We’re pretty good even if he’s nothing more than a lockdown defender.