Breaking: KAT to the Knicks
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I'm still not super confident OG and Josh should be matched up on a nightly basis against power forwards. I wonder if the Knicks are eyeing a Robinson trade. Man, I-Hart and Robinson really took a **** on our roster with leaving town and getting injured.
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god shammgod wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Still trying to comprehend the trade. If everything works out, KAT may give them a better chance to win it all. They went for it.
But yea sucks losing Donte and the difference between Randle and KAT can be debated.
Also wonder if Randle wanted to much money. They cashed in while they could.
My guy Deuce has a big opportunity to continue to step up. Excited for him.
yeah. i wonder if he wanted close to max money and the knicks said no and he told them he wasn't gonna resign for less than that. so they did what they had to.
Plus he will be 30 and coming off some major injuries. This might have been the best deal they could have gotten if they were looking to flip Randle. Might have been the best timing for that type of move too.
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Woah. I think I like it. I certainly like it in theory. Sucks about Donte but he's being way over valued here. He outplayed his contract last year for sure and had some huge momemts/games, but he should not hold up a trade of this magnitude
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3toheadmelo wrote:god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:They saying on Twitter that Mitch has to be added in..don’t celebrate too early mf
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old news buddy
listen, part of me will be relived so you guys will stop talking to me about him
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Kampuchea wrote:Randle was playing so well last season, not liking this move. KAT takes terrible shots and is targeted on Defense.
KAT has nearly a career 63% TS percentage. You may think his shot selection isn't good but he is one of the most EFF +20 pt scorers in the entire NBA.
Not saying he is without faults but the difference of Randles to KAT efficiency is like going from like De'Aaron Fox to Steph Curry.
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god shammgod wrote:
old news buddy
listen, part of me will be relived so you guys will stop talking to me about him
I’m gonna ignore that tweet because it doesn’t fit my narrative
I hope we are starting Mitch with KAT though. KAT at the 5 is a recipe for disaster.

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mpharris36 wrote:Kampuchea wrote:Randle was playing so well last season, not liking this move. KAT takes terrible shots and is targeted on Defense.
KAT has nearly a career 63% TS percentage. You may think his shot selection isn't good but he is one of the most EFF +20 pt scorers in the entire NBA.
Not saying he is without faults but the difference of Randles to KAT efficiency is like going from like De'Aaron Fox to Steph Curry.
i think he's gonna get more offense catch and shooting than ever before. less creating.
there just is something about him though that doesn't inspire confidence that he'll come through when it matters. not that randle ever did in the playoffs either.
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Deeeez Knicks wrote:god shammgod wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Still trying to comprehend the trade. If everything works out, KAT may give them a better chance to win it all. They went for it.
But yea sucks losing Donte and the difference between Randle and KAT can be debated.
Also wonder if Randle wanted to much money. They cashed in while they could.
My guy Deuce has a big opportunity to continue to step up. Excited for him.
yeah. i wonder if he wanted close to max money and the knicks said no and he told them he wasn't gonna resign for less than that. so they did what they had to.
Plus he will be 30 and coming off some major injuries. This might have been the best deal they could have gotten if they were looking to flip Randle. Might have been the best timing for that type of move too.
Its also sounding like after a big year Donte wasn't down to just be a part time role player with the nova knicks. He was the only one not at the mikal press conference and also wasn't at the block party.
Hes going to have a contract coming down the road eventually and might think he can't grow here. I have to assume with all that brunson has done for the franchise contract wise he had to be in the know.
Also like you said. Duece had a major role in playoffs and was barely going to play with current structure. This move now gives him a huge role on the team and team really believes in him.
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3toheadmelo wrote:god shammgod wrote:
old news buddy
listen, part of me will be relived so you guys will stop talking to me about him
I’m gonna ignore that tweet because it doesn’t fit my narrative![]()
I hope we are starting Mitch with KAT though. KAT at the 5 is a recipe for disaster.
agreed. minny went from a fringe playoff/non playoff team to top of the west by moving him to the 4 and pairing him with gobert. i don't understand people who want him to play the 5 full time. part time sure. i honestly don't know about all this. we'll see.
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Any T-Wolves writer/inside say why T-Wolves did the trade? The franchise made a mega-ton of money that made the luxury tax easier to handle, they're fresh off a WCF appearance. Hard to see their angle in all this.
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3toheadmelo wrote:god shammgod wrote:
old news buddy
listen, part of me will be relived so you guys will stop talking to me about him
I’m gonna ignore that tweet because it doesn’t fit my narrative![]()
I hope we are starting Mitch with KAT though. KAT at the 5 is a recipe for disaster.
I want the Knicks to trade Robinson. I feel like he was the domino in this ****. Well, I-Shatter was first.
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god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:Kampuchea wrote:Randle was playing so well last season, not liking this move. KAT takes terrible shots and is targeted on Defense.
KAT has nearly a career 63% TS percentage. You may think his shot selection isn't good but he is one of the most EFF +20 pt scorers in the entire NBA.
Not saying he is without faults but the difference of Randles to KAT efficiency is like going from like De'Aaron Fox to Steph Curry.
i think he's gonna get more offense catch and shooting than ever before. less creating.
there just is something about him though that doesn't inspire confidence that he'll come through when it matters. not that randle ever did in the playoffs either.
All that is true. So you can look at it like KAT is basically a souped up Randle for the Knicks. He plays better of the catch. Has more versatility to play small ball 5.
Basically every concern we had with Randle is still there with KAT. He just is a better fit both offensively and defensively. Plus his contract status is not a concern going forward.
If Randle wanted near max money and the Knicks probably knew where his number was at they may not have felt comfortable giving that much more to a 30 year old that really is a PF and only a PF.
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god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:god shammgod wrote:
old news buddy
listen, part of me will be relived so you guys will stop talking to me about him
I’m gonna ignore that tweet because it doesn’t fit my narrative![]()
I hope we are starting Mitch with KAT though. KAT at the 5 is a recipe for disaster.
agreed. minny went from a fringe playoff/non playoff team to top of the west by moving him to the 4 and pairing him with gobert. i don't understand people who want him to play the 5 full time. part time sure. i honestly don't know about all this. we'll see.
It’s a major downgrade defensively to play him at the 5 full time
It's quite possible Minnesota feels comfortable with Towns at the five, surrounded by elite perimeter defenders—but lineups with Towns at the pivot haven't yielded the best results on defense. In Minnesota's most played lineup excluding Gobert, and Towns at the five, the Wolves gave up 122 points per 100 possessions—ranking in the 21st percentile.

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i hope this all works out because the knicks are really all in now. once they pay mikal are they a 2nd apron team ? seems like there's not much room/assets to do much else.
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Now Donte is squidward
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3toheadmelo wrote:god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I’m gonna ignore that tweet because it doesn’t fit my narrative![]()
I hope we are starting Mitch with KAT though. KAT at the 5 is a recipe for disaster.
agreed. minny went from a fringe playoff/non playoff team to top of the west by moving him to the 4 and pairing him with gobert. i don't understand people who want him to play the 5 full time. part time sure. i honestly don't know about all this. we'll see.
It’s a major downgrade defensively to play him at the 5 full timeIt's quite possible Minnesota feels comfortable with Towns at the five, surrounded by elite perimeter defenders—but lineups with Towns at the pivot haven't yielded the best results on defense. In Minnesota's most played lineup excluding Gobert, and Towns at the five, the Wolves gave up 122 points per 100 possessions—ranking in the 21st percentile.
i know. i hear people talking about it and saying we have the wing defenders to make up for it but the wolves have good wing defenders too and it doesn't work.
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god shammgod wrote:i hope this all works out because the knicks are really all in now. once they pay mikal are they a 2nd apron team ? seems like there's not much room/assets to do much else.
I mean if you look at the rest of the teams around the league, there really aren't many that are much better in terms of overall talent and how well the talent fits together. This is the closest we've been to having a roster that is elite in terms of the actual level of talent on it to where true contention is something more than a pipe dream in my lifetime. Our beloved Ewing Knicks were always punching above their weight to some extent in terms of what the actual talent level was relative to other teams. This team not only fits well together and has that lunchpail mentality but it also is legitimately near the top of the league in terms of the actual talent level now. It's exciting.
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We might be locked in to treadmill territory

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