Preseason thread

[KGdaBom]

That is not so uncommon. The dude is 143 pounds and cannot defend. In any case, Minott and Dilly are probably 9 and 10. Garza and Jingles might usurp depending on need.

Either you're unbelievably wrong, using hyperbole or flat out lying. Dillingham weighed 163 at the draft testing. Combine or whatever they call it.

I may be wrong but didn’t they say 143 on the draft videos?

Nope. I thought you were just exaggerating all these times you gave his weight at 143 and it seemed like a bit of a dik move. Now I know you were just misinformed.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

13 assists to 1 turnover, I'd be concerned too.

That's G League level, absolutely

It’s 14 to 2 now, his turnover rate doubled. Isn’t it funny how small sample sizes in exhibition games work? Shout out to Finch who said RD will have 1 good game, 1 average game, and 1 bad game every 3 games.

Finchy just stated the obvious . Most of us say that RD will need 2 years before we know where his limit are. He look very promising but need time. Specially in team running for a title as he will have a lot of night where he will be a DNP. Mike, DDV, maybe even NAW or Joe will run the show before him.

[KGdaBom]

Either you're unbelievably wrong, using hyperbole or flat out lying. Dillingham weighed 163 at the draft testing. Combine or whatever they call it.

I may be wrong but didn’t they say 143 on the draft videos?

Naw he was 163 at the draft.

Word is he's already grown 2 inches and put on 15 lbs of pure muscle since.

Nice try. We wish.

[KGdaBom]

Dilly's shooting has been very disappointing so far this preseason. I hope he turns it around soon.

[Sealab2024]

I may be wrong but didn’t they say 143 on the draft videos?

Naw he was 163 at the draft.

Word is he's already grown 2 inches and put on 15 lbs of pure muscle since.

Nice try. We wish.

[younggunsmn]

Dante is quickly becoming one of my favorite players.
Super high BBIQ, such great passing, floor vision, and off ball movement.
Should be hands down the #2 PG and pushing Mike for minutes.
Already showing a lot better chemistry with Ant than KAT ever had, pushing in transition, moving without the ball, and making smart probing drives to open up shots for his teammates.
We've needed a guy like him for so long.

Same old crap from KAT tonight, get used to it Knicks fans.
Hanging around the perimeter above the break most of the time, with tunnel vision drives off of closeouts with his limbs flailing all over the place.
Refs already got the memo you can't call KAT for offensive fouls now, could have easily been whistled for at least 3 tonight.
We were really nice in not putting him in any pick and roll action tonight but I don't see how the Knicks can make it work defensively without playing another big next to KAT.

I thought the refs were supposed to allow more physicality this year? They called every possible ticky tack foul on us they could find.
If that foul call on Dillingham that was overturned isn't a foul, then Brunson shouldn't have shot a single free throw tonight.

Dillingham looked really bad tonight when faced with a more physical and disciplined defense. It's going to be a process with him.
The talent is there, there is just a huge learning curve at this level, which is going to be made a little harder having to learn how to compensate for his smaller stature.

We all love Naz, but he wasn't good tonight. Discouraging to see him and Jaden with the same dumb foul problems.
It's early though. But we're going to be a lot better with Naz coming off the bench than starting.

Seemed like offense was totally predicated on generating 3 point looks tonight.
Which is so feast of famine, we can score 15 points in 2 minutes, but we can give up 15 points in 2 minutes too with a bunch of long rebounds and fast breaks.

You have to think it will look different with Randle, who can go downhill and create inside out from the paint.

We played them to a draw while the starters were in, missing Randle and Mike.
I think the Knicks biggest issues are going to be secondary playmaking.
They don't have anyone else on the roster who can help Brunson out with playmaking, who can get themselves or anyone else a shot.
If they expect Brunson to make things happen every time down the court for 35 or 40 minutes, I don't know how that is sustainable.

Anunoby and Bridges are the same player (IMHO Anunoby is better). I don't understand trading (and giving up SO MUCH) for both and having 2 wings who are so limited when it comes to shot creation, and starting a 3rd in Hart who is even more limited.

[younggunsmn]

Oh and that Dillingham/Ingles/Naz lineup is maybe the worst defensive lineup we could possibly throw out there.
Yuck. I hope we don't see that this year.

[winforlose]

Three interesting takeaways.

1. When Mike was out it was DDV starting at PG.
2. Minott was 3rd string PF and being assigned to guard 1-4
3. Jingles looks like he might fall out of the rotation.

[Neeva]

Yea Joe can hit some shots but he looks too slow defensively, doubt he will play any meaningful minutes.

[minimus]

Minott looks good as smallball PF, it requires a lot of energy and effort in X-out rotations. He and Donte can play as backbone defenders.

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[thinktank]

13 assists to 1 turnover, I'd be concerned too.

That's G League level, absolutely

It’s 14 to 2 now, his turnover rate doubled. Isn’t it funny how small sample sizes in exhibition games work? Shout out to Finch who said RD will have 1 good game, 1 average game, and 1 bad game every 3 games.

7:1 would be top 10 in the league, FYI.

[Norseman79]

All I took from out of this game is that we definitely need to add another defensive big behind Rudy. Someone who can wash the glass and shut down the paint. Love Garza, hustle guy, definitely has spots for you would turn to him. Need a big banger also....

Small ball sucks...

PG - Conley Jr, DD, Dilly
SG - Ant, Naw, TSJr
SF - McDaniels, Minott, Ingles
PF - JR, Naz, Miller
C. - Rudy, ???, Luka

JR and Naz are pretty changeable as of now.

[thinktank]

Dillingham looked really bad tonight when faced with a more physical and disciplined defense. It's going to be a process with him.
The talent is there, there is just a huge learning curve at this level, which is going to be made a little harder having to learn how to compensate for his smaller stature.

I think a lot of his problems were self-inflicted. One, he kept leaving his feet, and two, he kept calling his own number. Very fixable things.

[thinktank]

I may be wrong but didn’t they say 143 on the draft videos?

Your bias is showing again.

[Biff Cooper]

Dillingham looked really bad tonight when faced with a more physical and disciplined defense. It's going to be a process with him.
The talent is there, there is just a huge learning curve at this level, which is going to be made a little harder having to learn how to compensate for his smaller stature.

I think a lot of his problems were self-inflicted. One, he kept leaving his feet, and two, he kept calling his own number. Very fixable things.

Tough to believe he only had one turnover in that game. He looked pretty brutal while I was watching. NY is a pretty good defensive team though. Hopefully he is learning the things that he can't get away with anymore before the regular season starts. I'm assuming Finch will be getting him some PT in all games with extra PT in non-close games.

[Sealab2024]

There might start to be situations where JMac playing the 4 becomes a legitimate thing. He's put on enough weight to more than handle it, he's taller than Randle and defensively he's easily our best option.

Conley
DDV
Ant
Jaden
Rudy

Should provide enough spacing and is probably our best defensive lineup.

As for Dilly this is exactly what it's gonna be for this first little bit. One night where he looks great, one night where he does some things great and others not so great and one night where he looks overmatched. Get used to it cause I see it coming at least through January.

[thinktank]

Dillingham looked really bad tonight when faced with a more physical and disciplined defense. It's going to be a process with him.
The talent is there, there is just a huge learning curve at this level, which is going to be made a little harder having to learn how to compensate for his smaller stature.

I think a lot of his problems were self-inflicted. One, he kept leaving his feet, and two, he kept calling his own number. Very fixable things.

Tough to believe he only had one turnover in that game. He looked pretty brutal while I was watching. NY is a pretty good defensive team though. Hopefully he is learning the things that he can't get away with anymore before the regular season starts. I'm assuming Finch will be getting him some PT in all games with extra PT in non-close games.

He had a lot of passes deflected out of bounds and to our team. It was poor shot selection that got him yanked for Nix. He needs to work on his balance. He’s flying forward on his threes.

[minimus]

Rob should watch Steve Nash games: don't jump without purpose, keep dribble alive.

[winforlose]

That's G League level, absolutely

It’s 14 to 2 now, his turnover rate doubled. Isn’t it funny how small sample sizes in exhibition games work? Shout out to Finch who said RD will have 1 good game, 1 average game, and 1 bad game every 3 games.

7:1 would be top 10 in the league, FYI.

I make a point about how small sample sizes are susceptible to wild fluctuations, and this is your takeaway? You are trolling territory.

[thinktank]

It’s 14 to 2 now, his turnover rate doubled. Isn’t it funny how small sample sizes in exhibition games work? Shout out to Finch who said RD will have 1 good game, 1 average game, and 1 bad game every 3 games.

7:1 would be top 10 in the league, FYI.

I make a point about how small sample sizes are susceptible to wild fluctuations, and this is your takeaway? You are trolling territory.

You cited his turnover right NOW, did you not? Why cite it if you think that number doesn't have any value?