OT: Clinton or Bush?

[Fury]

You somehow see through this. You're so special. Every other Black person who votes Democrat (overwhelmingly Democrat) is just gullible but you are a special super intelligent person who sees through this.

BTW, this is what Trump thinks will get the Black vote:

https://www.newsweek.com/forgiato-blow-trump-rapper-maga-amber-rose-1927209

Read on Twitter

But you say nothing about this? You're a **** fraud, dude.

I know politics get people heated bro but, the insults/personal attacks get the thread locked. We don't want that. This is the longest running political thread in history on here. Don't ruin for the rest of us. Plus, Rhodey is cool. He just has different views. You can express your opposite opinion without the insults. I have been guilty of the same thing so, I am speaking from experience. It's not a healthy discussion when we go too far in on one another. The mods won't allow it either.

Just my 2 cents.

Never saw the insult , I been had this dude on Ignore....he's mad

Why don't you PM me again crying about why I think you're a fraud?

[Fury]

You have a habit of attacking the speaker. and making false accusations. Nowhere did I insult black people for having a different background from me. I pointed out that Obama is not one of us /not for us and I stand by that. If other group can delineate as a dinstict lineage culture why is "insulting" when Black Americans do it?

I think Biden is a racist segrationalist based on things he's said and done....I think Kamala is a phony....but at the end of the day I try to focus on the policies because I think Boogeyman tactics are tools used to appeal to Emotion and not facts.

I have to admit though the democrats are better at coating dodo with sugar...sweet sugary no substantive slogans that amount to nothing, meanwhile their policies are destroying the fabric of the nation. So go ahead and keep attacking the person for DISAGREEING with you...its so predictable and kinda funny

You somehow see through this. You're so special. Every other Black person who votes Democrat (overwhelmingly Democrat) is just gullible but you are a special super intelligent person who sees through this.

BTW, this is what Trump thinks will get the Black vote:

https://www.newsweek.com/forgiato-blow-trump-rapper-maga-amber-rose-1927209

Read on Twitter

But you say nothing about this? You're a **** fraud, dude.

I know politics get people heated bro but, the insults/personal attacks get the thread locked. We don't want that. This is the longest running political thread in history on here. Don't ruin for the rest of us. Plus, Rhodey is cool. He just has different views. You can express your opposite opinion without the insults. I have been guilty of the same thing so, I am speaking from experience. It's not a healthy discussion when we go too far in on one another. The mods won't allow it either.

Just my 2 cents.

I'll stop with the "insults," but Rhodey is definitely not "cool."

[DOT]

Siding with literal neo-Nazis and happily regurgitating their talking points is not, has never been, and will never be “cool”

[Jalen Bluntson]

You somehow see through this. You're so special. Every other Black person who votes Democrat (overwhelmingly Democrat) is just gullible but you are a special super intelligent person who sees through this.

BTW, this is what Trump thinks will get the Black vote:

https://www.newsweek.com/forgiato-blow-trump-rapper-maga-amber-rose-1927209

Read on Twitter

But you say nothing about this? You're a **** fraud, dude.

I know politics get people heated bro but, the insults/personal attacks get the thread locked. We don't want that. This is the longest running political thread in history on here. Don't ruin for the rest of us. Plus, Rhodey is cool. He just has different views. You can express your opposite opinion without the insults. I have been guilty of the same thing so, I am speaking from experience. It's not a healthy discussion when we go too far in on one another. The mods won't allow it either.

Just my 2 cents.

I'll stop with the "insults," but Rhodey is definitely not "cool."

Fair enough brother. He's always been cool with me but, I see you guys have beef. Appreciate your response though. I have been known to act a fool and I don't wanna appear like a hypocrite. Just trying to keep the thread alive.m

[MrDollarBills]

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks. My boss definitely consumes a lot of politic media but it's all dem favored for sure. if the dems are putting out that fear mongering, could be a good strategy to get a better turnout. if people think harris is going to win i assume less trump haters would vote.

Trump stopped doing interviews because he's deteriorating at a rapid pace and his handlers are trying to hide it.

Watch on YouTube

^if Joe Biden did this, the same people in this thread who worship Trump would be going off about how dude is going senile.

I actually have a question for the folks who use betting odds as an indicator of how the election will go. What were those odds looking like back in 2022 when there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during the midterms? Because that didn't happen either.

The Republicans have been losing more than winning nationally and yet all i keep seeing is the same rhetoric every cycle since 2018.

[RHODEY]

Rhodey, you seem to admire Trump for his strength or for policies you think make America strong.

Trump is the most effeminate, swishy weirdo I've ever seem in a politician's suit. The way he talks is like he is a parody of being queer. He's so damn wimpy. He faked his medical exams to get out of military service while he insults our military as suckers and losers. Is that manly?

Just curious how you project strength on to such a pathetic wretch of a man. He can't even get his bronzer put on correctly and his little pink ears stick out like a cartoon character. He's so embarrassing to even look at.

I dunno man, to be able to elevate a lifelong drug addict and serial rapist as a strong man is one hell of a fiction you've got going on in your mind.

Sorry man ...well for one how many times have they tried to tale out this "pathetic wretch of a man?" If he was so "swishy" why even bother? I think the Democrats are been softening us up for slaughter, and Trump is the one thing standing against that.

I look forward to him firing Gary Gensler and booting out the millions of people who have crossed our borders since the Democrats have opened the flood gates.

[RHODEY]

I know politics get people heated bro but, the insults/personal attacks get the thread locked. We don't want that. This is the longest running political thread in history on here. Don't ruin for the rest of us. Plus, Rhodey is cool. He just has different views. You can express your opposite opinion without the insults. I have been guilty of the same thing so, I am speaking from experience. It's not a healthy discussion when we go too far in on one another. The mods won't allow it either.

Just my 2 cents.

I'll stop with the "insults," but Rhodey is definitely not "cool."

Fair enough brother. He's always been cool with me but, I see you guys have beef. Appreciate your response though. I have been known to act a fool and I don't wanna appear like a hypocrite. Just trying to keep the thread alive.m

Beef? Nah... that would require acknowledgement from me.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Siding with literal neo-Nazis and happily regurgitating their talking points is not, has never been, and will never be “cool”

I interact with him in basketball discussion and he's always been cool in there. I am willing to interact with the same people in here so, self restraint should be applied because otherwise we won't have this thread.

Just like family parties when politics come up. Are we really gonna be hostile or just keep it moving?

You all know I am trying to be more civil these days. Life is too short. I am facing lung throat and stomach cancer and my wife died from liver cancer three years ago. So maybe it's just me but, I am trying not to be the lunatic I used to be on here. So the voice of reason is a new leaf. Let's all smoke it!

[Fury]

I'll stop with the "insults," but Rhodey is definitely not "cool."

Fair enough brother. He's always been cool with me but, I see you guys have beef. Appreciate your response though. I have been known to act a fool and I don't wanna appear like a hypocrite. Just trying to keep the thread alive.m

Beef? Nah... that would require acknowledgement from me.

Who PMed who? You literally went out of your way to type out my name and private message me.

Lol.

[DOT]

Siding with literal neo-Nazis and happily regurgitating their talking points is not, has never been, and will never be “cool”

I interact with him in basketball discussion and he's always been cool in there. I am willing to interact with the same people in here so, self restraint should be applied because otherwise we won't have this thread.

Just like family parties when politics come up. Are we really gonna be hostile or just keep it moving?

You all know I am trying to be more civil these days. Life is too short. I am facing lung throat and stomach cancer and my wife died from liver cancer three years ago. So maybe it's just me but, I am trying not to be the lunatic I used to be on here. So the voice of reason is a new leaf. Let's all smoke it!

You should read up on the paradox of tolerance.

[MrDollarBills]

I am not a hateful person but the way you guys talk re opposing views, I wonder about you.
Woke culture has really damaged this Country, especially re communication.

Btw, Trump is gaining more support from black people than any Republican EVER. Not my stat…

You're posting content from a dude i just told you is an antisemitic holocaust denier who has made bigoted comments about gays in the past. Like Lord Jamar is a hateful piece of sh*t. He called Kamala a bitch ffs.

And it bothered you not one bit.

I'm just saying dude, you and other MAGAs post stuff from sources that are known for stoking violence, racism, antisemitism etc. What do you expect people to think about you????

The desperation to validate black support of Trump is palpable.

It's a myth. Trump has not picked up any of the black vote that went to Biden.

I've been hearing about "Blacks for Trump" for the last few years, yet Black women and men still vote Dems in massive numbers over Republicans. Even despite the fact that Black men aren't a 99% bloc like Black women are, because our sisters understand the gravity of this situation way more than we do, we still support Dems at a rate better than other male racial/ethnic groups.

It's all a lie, and there's no coincidence that the openly loud Black male Trump supporters routinely engage in misogyny, bigotry, and antisemitism like their white male counterparts. If Republicans weren't so racist they'd be able to peel away a lot more men then I'd care to admit....but still not enough to remotely make a dent in Black support for Democrats.

When you've got Black men questioning a candidate's "racial purity", that should tell you everything about where they are regurgitating their talking points from.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Siding with literal neo-Nazis and happily regurgitating their talking points is not, has never been, and will never be “cool”

I interact with him in basketball discussion and he's always been cool in there. I am willing to interact with the same people in here so, self restraint should be applied because otherwise we won't have this thread.

Just like family parties when politics come up. Are we really gonna be hostile or just keep it moving?

You all know I am trying to be more civil these days. Life is too short. I am facing lung throat and stomach cancer and my wife died from liver cancer three years ago. So maybe it's just me but, I am trying not to be the lunatic I used to be on here. So the voice of reason is a new leaf. Let's all smoke it!

You should read up on the paradox of tolerance.

You should read up on the board rules.

[kNicksGmen]

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks. My boss definitely consumes a lot of politic media but it's all dem favored for sure. if the dems are putting out that fear mongering, could be a good strategy to get a better turnout. if people think harris is going to win i assume less trump haters would vote.

Trump stopped doing interviews because he's deteriorating at a rapid pace and his handlers are trying to hide it.

Watch on YouTube

^if Joe Biden did this, the same people in this thread who worship Trump would be going off about how dude is going senile.

I actually have a question for the folks who use betting odds as an indicator of how the election will go. What were those odds looking like back in 2022 when there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during the midterms? Because that didn't happen either.

The Republicans have been losing more than winning nationally and yet all i keep seeing is the same rhetoric every cycle since 2018.

don't shoot the messenger, like i said the numbers are what they are. obviously doesn't mean everything but it means something and the trend is pretty obvious.

I can't speak to mid terms but don't believe it's comparable to betting odds on a presidency.

i'm of the belief trump voters already know who/what he is - so him speaking more/less doesn't change anything to them. I think if you're losing in the polls etc then you are willing to take more risks because you have "nothing to lose". if you're winning then there's no reason to take as much risk. hence why i think kamala did the fox news interview. she spent weeks doing rallies but not answering any actual questions - and it was working. now lately it seems she is more willing to take risks - which could be related to the trend showing trump's odds have improved meaningfully.

i already said it but if anything i prefer she wins because my boss is an insufferable trump hater that i would have to listen to non stop if he wins. outside of that i don't really care. i'm in no way a trump supporter.

i also think a media narrative of it being very close or trump leading is good for kamala anyways. if it was looking like a few weeks ago, that she was going to win then I think less people turn out to vote.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/
I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks. My boss definitely consumes a lot of politic media but it's all dem favored for sure. if the dems are putting out that fear mongering, could be a good strategy to get a better turnout. if people think harris is going to win i assume less trump haters would vote.

Trump stopped doing interviews because he's deteriorating at a rapid pace and his handlers are trying to hide it.

Watch on YouTube

^if Joe Biden did this, the same people in this thread who worship Trump would be going off about how dude is going senile.

I actually have a question for the folks who use betting odds as an indicator of how the election will go. What were those odds looking like back in 2022 when there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during the midterms? Because that didn't happen either.

The Republicans have been losing more than winning nationally and yet all i keep seeing is the same rhetoric every cycle since 2018.

don't shoot the messenger, like i said the numbers are what they are. obviously doesn't mean everything but it means something and the trend is pretty obvious.

I can't speak to mid terms but don't believe it's comparable to betting odds on a presidency.

i'm of the belief trump voters already know who/what he is - so him speaking more/less doesn't change anything to them. I think if you're losing in the polls etc then you are willing to take more risks because you have "nothing to lose". if you're winning then there's no reason to take as much risk. hence why i think kamala did the fox news interview. she spent weeks doing rallies but not answering any actual questions - and it was working. now lately it seems she is more willing to take risks - which could be related to the trend showing trump's odds have improved meaningfully.

i already said it but if anything i prefer she wins because my boss is an insufferable trump hater that i would have to listen to non stop if he wins. outside of that i don't really care. i'm in no way a trump supporter.

Wow. For someone who doesn't follow politics you have all of the FAUX News talking points down pat.

Here is how gambling works. They tell you Trump is gonna win. Everyone bets on Trump. He loses...THEY win. Trump is in a dead heat according to everyone except Trump and his campaign HQ at FAUX News and the like.

It's not rocket science.

[kNicksGmen]

Trump stopped doing interviews because he's deteriorating at a rapid pace and his handlers are trying to hide it.

Watch on YouTube

^if Joe Biden did this, the same people in this thread who worship Trump would be going off about how dude is going senile.

I actually have a question for the folks who use betting odds as an indicator of how the election will go. What were those odds looking like back in 2022 when there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during the midterms? Because that didn't happen either.

The Republicans have been losing more than winning nationally and yet all i keep seeing is the same rhetoric every cycle since 2018.

don't shoot the messenger, like i said the numbers are what they are. obviously doesn't mean everything but it means something and the trend is pretty obvious.

I can't speak to mid terms but don't believe it's comparable to betting odds on a presidency.

i'm of the belief trump voters already know who/what he is - so him speaking more/less doesn't change anything to them. I think if you're losing in the polls etc then you are willing to take more risks because you have "nothing to lose". if you're winning then there's no reason to take as much risk. hence why i think kamala did the fox news interview. she spent weeks doing rallies but not answering any actual questions - and it was working. now lately it seems she is more willing to take risks - which could be related to the trend showing trump's odds have improved meaningfully.

i already said it but if anything i prefer she wins because my boss is an insufferable trump hater that i would have to listen to non stop if he wins. outside of that i don't really care. i'm in no way a trump supporter.

Wow. For someone who doesn't follow politics you have all of the FAUX News talking points down pat.

Here is how gambling works. They tell you Trump is gonna win. Everyone bets on Trump. He loses...THEY win. Trump is in a dead heat according to everyone except Trump and his campaign HQ at FAUX News and the like.

It's not rocket science.

that's not how betting lines work at all lol. i'm simply sharing information and giving my 2 cents that each candidates actions recently reflect there could be some truth behind the odds and polls shifting - nobody really knows at the end of the day. and like i said my opinion is the narrative that trump is pulling ahead is a good thing for kamala if anything. if the narrative was kamala was "strengthening her lead" then a lot of people that would only vote to ensure trump doesn't win might feel they don't have to.

and what fox news talking points are you referring to? i get most of my info regurgitated from my boss who is a huge trump hater Dem that watches all the left media.

my general opinion on politics is they are all crooks. 3 straight presidential elections with embarrassingly bad candidates.

DO BETTER AMERICA

[8516knicks]

Trump stopped doing interviews because he's deteriorating at a rapid pace and his handlers are trying to hide it.

Watch on YouTube

^if Joe Biden did this, the same people in this thread who worship Trump would be going off about how dude is going senile.

I actually have a question for the folks who use betting odds as an indicator of how the election will go. What were those odds looking like back in 2022 when there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during the midterms? Because that didn't happen either.

The Republicans have been losing more than winning nationally and yet all i keep seeing is the same rhetoric every cycle since 2018.

don't shoot the messenger, like i said the numbers are what they are. obviously doesn't mean everything but it means something and the trend is pretty obvious.

I can't speak to mid terms but don't believe it's comparable to betting odds on a presidency.

i'm of the belief trump voters already know who/what he is - so him speaking more/less doesn't change anything to them. I think if you're losing in the polls etc then you are willing to take more risks because you have "nothing to lose". if you're winning then there's no reason to take as much risk. hence why i think kamala did the fox news interview. she spent weeks doing rallies but not answering any actual questions - and it was working. now lately it seems she is more willing to take risks - which could be related to the trend showing trump's odds have improved meaningfully.

i already said it but if anything i prefer she wins because my boss is an insufferable trump hater that i would have to listen to non stop if he wins. outside of that i don't really care. i'm in no way a trump supporter.

Wow. For someone who doesn't follow politics you have all of the FAUX News talking points down pat.

Here is how gambling works. They tell you Trump is gonna win. Everyone bets on Trump. He loses...THEY win. Trump is in a dead heat according to everyone except Trump and his campaign HQ at FAUX News and the like.

It's not rocket science.

"Here is how gambling works." Okay, I'll bite. Since you know, now gimme the rest of this weeks' NFL 14 game parlay!

[Stannis]

Jill Stein Hurts Donald Trump More Than Kamala Harris, Poll Suggests

https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-hurts-donald-trump-more-kamala-harris-poll-suggests-1970765

[Jalen Bluntson]

don't shoot the messenger, like i said the numbers are what they are. obviously doesn't mean everything but it means something and the trend is pretty obvious.

I can't speak to mid terms but don't believe it's comparable to betting odds on a presidency.

i'm of the belief trump voters already know who/what he is - so him speaking more/less doesn't change anything to them. I think if you're losing in the polls etc then you are willing to take more risks because you have "nothing to lose". if you're winning then there's no reason to take as much risk. hence why i think kamala did the fox news interview. she spent weeks doing rallies but not answering any actual questions - and it was working. now lately it seems she is more willing to take risks - which could be related to the trend showing trump's odds have improved meaningfully.

i already said it but if anything i prefer she wins because my boss is an insufferable trump hater that i would have to listen to non stop if he wins. outside of that i don't really care. i'm in no way a trump supporter.

Wow. For someone who doesn't follow politics you have all of the FAUX News talking points down pat.

Here is how gambling works. They tell you Trump is gonna win. Everyone bets on Trump. He loses...THEY win. Trump is in a dead heat according to everyone except Trump and his campaign HQ at FAUX News and the like.

It's not rocket science.

that's not how betting lines work at all lol. i'm simply sharing information and giving my 2 cents that each candidates actions recently reflect there could be some truth behind the odds and polls shifting - nobody really knows at the end of the day. and like i said my opinion is the narrative that trump is pulling ahead is a good thing for kamala if anything. if the narrative was kamala was "strengthening her lead" then a lot of people that would only vote to ensure trump doesn't win might feel they don't have to.

my general opinion on politics is they are all crooks. 3 straight presidential elections with embarrassingly bad candidates.

DO BETTER AMERICA

The house always wins. That's EXACTLY how gambling works.

Anyway. If you don't follow politics. Then maybe stick to that. You are in here trying to convince people that polls are accurate. They aren't. Nowhere in the world is this being reported as Trump heavily favored except this stupid gambling site. It's not hard to figure out.

I don't follow polls. I am just going by what past Trump voting people I know are saying to me and what over 100 Republicans past and present are saying. They all are either NOT voting or voting for Kamala. 40 of the 44 people in Trump's administration do not support him. Many of those politicians are endorsing Kamala.

On top of that...for what it's worth to others...the polls have it as a tight race.

Are you voting?

[Stannis]

I'm guessing Kamala's new crypto plan for black men will not win Rhodey's vote.

[kNicksGmen]

Wow. For someone who doesn't follow politics you have all of the FAUX News talking points down pat.

Here is how gambling works. They tell you Trump is gonna win. Everyone bets on Trump. He loses...THEY win. Trump is in a dead heat according to everyone except Trump and his campaign HQ at FAUX News and the like.

It's not rocket science.

that's not how betting lines work at all lol. i'm simply sharing information and giving my 2 cents that each candidates actions recently reflect there could be some truth behind the odds and polls shifting - nobody really knows at the end of the day. and like i said my opinion is the narrative that trump is pulling ahead is a good thing for kamala if anything. if the narrative was kamala was "strengthening her lead" then a lot of people that would only vote to ensure trump doesn't win might feel they don't have to.

my general opinion on politics is they are all crooks. 3 straight presidential elections with embarrassingly bad candidates.

DO BETTER AMERICA

The house always wins. That's EXACTLY how gambling works.

Anyway. If you don't follow politics. Then maybe stick to that. You are in here trying to convince people that polls are accurate. They aren't. Nowhere in the world is this being reported as Trump heavily favored except this stupid gambling site. It's not hard to figure out.

I don't follow polls. I am just going by what past Trump voting people I know are saying to me and what over 100 Republicans past and present are saying. They all are either NOT voting or voting for Kamala. 40 of the 44 people in Trump's administration do not support him. Many of those politicians are endorsing Kamala.

On top of that...for what it's worth to others...the polls have it as a tight race.

Are you voting?

exactly, the house always wins which is why they set the lines accordingly. kamala was a slight favorite a few weeks ago but that has shifted.

i'm not in here trying to convince anyone of anything. show me where i said the polls are accurate? you dismiss data and then use anecdotes about people you know lol

i clicked into here more than once and was confused when politics were being discussed. "OT: What are you grateful for?" is what i thought i was entering