Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

Murray_17 · Post #1061 » by **Murray_17** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:23 pm

Pre-season and all but Oubre is not a starting guy and the more importance he gets the more he loses his mind.

Drummond trying to ISO is also a wtf

the_process · Post #1062 » by **the_process** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:32 am

Murray_17 wrote:Pre-season and all but Oubre is not a starting guy and the more importance he gets the more he loses his mind.

Drummond trying to ISO is also a wtf

You might be on to something with that.

I agree Oubre ought to be coming off the bench.

M2J · Post #1063 » by **M2J** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:40 am

the_process wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:Pre-season and all but Oubre is not a starting guy and the more importance he gets the more he loses his mind.

Drummond trying to ISO is also a wtf

You might be on to something with that.

I agree Oubre ought to be coming off the bench.

I'd say he's more important as a 6th man. I don't mind either way, but with a legit big 3 that we haven't even seen yet...I don't feel he's that crucial playing with them, but only important in that he's going to be an aggressive outlet for them to use... Which I have an appreciation for unlike a PJ or Tobi.... Now if he truly struggles as that outlet when the guys are all playing is when he becomes a guy that has to be benched.

FireMorey · Post #1064 » by **FireMorey** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:13 pm

Somehow Maxey and Paul George both got hurt in preseason.

I don't believe in curses, but the Sixers tempt me to consider it. The amount of bad luck the Sixers have had over the years, the mathematical likelihood of everything that has gone wrong for them has to be greater than lottery odds. It's just unfathomable bad luck.

Honestly, if one day the Sixers find themselves in the NBA Finals up 3-0 or 3-1 or something looking to clinch, I'd be more worried that something is going to happen to the stars in that game than I would be excited that I'd finally get over the hump. It feels like there's some demonic force that just does not want the Sixers to ever succeed.

76ciology · Post #1065 » by **76ciology** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:58 pm

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76ciology · Post #1066 » by **76ciology** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:04 pm

FireMorey wrote:Somehow Maxey and Paul George both got hurt in preseason.

I don't believe in curses, but the Sixers tempt me to consider it. The amount of bad luck the Sixers have had over the years, the mathematical likelihood of everything that has gone wrong for them has to be greater than lottery odds. It's just unfathomable bad luck.

Honestly, if one day the Sixers find themselves in the NBA Finals up 3-0 or 3-1 or something looking to clinch, I'd be more worried that something is going to happen to the stars in that game than I would be excited that I'd finally get over the hump. It feels like there's some demonic force that just does not want the Sixers to ever succeed.

This is what’s always tough for me as a Sixers fan. Instead of just enjoying the game, I’m constantly watching Embiid’s every move, worried about how he lands after every jump. And when we lose, it’s always due to health issues. In the offseason, no matter what additions we make, you can’t have a real conversation about the team without hearing, “if healthy.”

Man.. I just want to enjoy the game without constantly worrying about a player’s health. These are professional athletes with world-class diets and training, yet they’re breaking down like paper.

sixers4real · Post #1067 » by **sixers4real** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:07 pm

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76ciology · Post #1068 » by **76ciology** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:45 pm

Caleb Martin has been very good, specially off the bench.

I also like the 2nd unit of Lowry-Caleb-Oubre-KJ-Yabu on defense

Snotbubbles · Post #1069 » by **Snotbubbles** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:22 pm

76ciology wrote:Caleb Martin has been very good, specially off the bench.

I also like the 2nd unit of Lowry-Caleb-Oubre-KJ-Yabu on defense

And what are you doing with Drummond?

phillynative · Post #1070 » by **phillynative** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:53 pm

76ciology wrote:Caleb Martin has been very good, specially off the bench.

I also like the 2nd unit of Lowry-Caleb-Oubre-KJ-Yabu on defense

Everytime I watch looks like a layup line. Maybe I'm missing something

Iverson Armband · Post #1071 » by **Iverson Armband** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:57 pm

Maxey is hurt? Thats news to me.

PhillyFan11 · Post #1072 » by **PhillyFan11** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:03 am

Snotbubbles wrote:
76ciology wrote:Caleb Martin has been very good, specially off the bench.

I also like the 2nd unit of Lowry-Caleb-Oubre-KJ-Yabu on defense

And what are you doing with Drummond?

And who’s starting if all of those guys are coming off the bench? Gordon (no thanks) and ??

ivysixer2000 · Post #1073 » by **ivysixer2000** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:37 am

So we are saying we like Martin and Oubre off the bench, who will start if that happens?

Council and McCain? One or both of Martin and Oubre will start, just saying

Post #1074 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:56 am

I assume he just means a unit during the game, they're not gonna play 5 bench players at the same time, Doc is not the coach anymore.

It does seem like Caleb is going to come off the bench initially though. And it seems like Gordon is going to start, probably not play 30 minutes or anything but that way him and Lowry don't play together.

If all of George/Maxey/Embiid are healthy there's no reason not to have at least one on the court at all times and ~90% of the time 2 should be.

76ciology · Post #1075 » by **76ciology** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:17 am

Sixerscan wrote:I assume he just means a unit during the game, they're not gonna play 5 bench players at the same time, Doc is not the coach anymore.

It does seem like Caleb is going to come off the bench initially though. And it seems like Gordon is going to start, probably not play 30 minutes or anything but that way him and Lowry don't play together.

If all of George/Maxey/Embiid are healthy there's no reason not to have at least one on the court at all times and ~90% of the time 2 should be.

Yes, thanks for clarifying.

Without Embiid, I prefer starting Eric Gordon alongside Maxey. The offense seems to flow more smoothly without getting clunky.

I also like the idea of using athletic, lengthy wings (Caleb-Oubre-KJ) if Yabusele is at the center position. Lowry fits well with this group too, as he frequently acts as the coach on the court.

76ciology · Post #1076 » by **76ciology** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:33 am

Our offense feels like a modern take on the triangle offense. Instead of positioning the post player on the baseline, we use them around the free-throw line. In the traditional triangle, there’s a lot of off ball screen actions, but in our system, we rely more on dribble handoffs, which IMO is a more effective screen action.

These handoffs keep the help defense engaged, making it harder for them to provide help in the post. The defenders are often preoccupied with the movement, and the post defender can get caught up helping on the handoff, allowing the post player to exploit whichever side opens up when their defender shifts to help. This constant action disrupts the defense and creates more opportunities for our post player to attack.

It’s also much harder to hide a weak defender in this system due to all the dribble handoff actions. With three star caliber scorers, the weak defender is likely to end up guarding one of them after the series of movements.

At worst, even if the weak defender doesn’t switch onto a star, you’ll have players like Oubre, Martin, or Caleb attacking them with a step advantage after the action, benefiting from the defensive gravity created by our stars. Oubre and Council benefits a lot from this last season.

As a last resort, we dump the ball to our go to scorer, depending on who’s got the hot hand and the best match up, and let him go to work. Ideally, this should be the final option in our offense. However, we usually start games by running through Embiid with the intention of drawing fouls on the opposing center, often the defensive anchor. This approach forces the opponent’s center into foul trouble early, which can disrupt their defense and create opportunities for our team throughout the game.

HotelVitale · Post #1077 » by **HotelVitale** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:24 pm

the_process wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:Pre-season and all but Oubre is not a starting guy and the more importance he gets the more he loses his mind.

Drummond trying to ISO is also a wtf

You might be on to something with that.

I agree Oubre ought to be coming off the bench.

Don’t disagree on Oubre but this really is a preseason thing, just f’ing around. A lot of the offense the whole preseason was stuff we’re not going to run in the RS, period.

Jailblazers7 · Post #1078 » by **Jailblazers7** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:54 pm

Mikal Bridges jumper looks busted. I’d be pretty worried about that if I were a Knicks fan.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1079 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:09 pm

Haven’t been keeping up with preseason. So everyone’s injured? Is the season already over?

Post #1080 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:14 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Haven’t been keeping up with preseason. So everyone’s injured? Is the season already over?

It sounds like George may not be ready for the opener but everyone else seems fine? Embiid, Maxey and McCain are all working out at that scrimmage they're doing in Delaware today. Who knows.

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