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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#401 » by LakerLegend » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:56 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
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KembaWalker wrote:“Best prospect since LeBron” has to be the biggest nba draft meme at this point


Except Wemby is obviously one of the greatest if not the greatest prospect ever.


I still give it to Lebron, but I think Wemby is in the top 3 with Lebron and KAJ.


Shaq is in that discussion.
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Post#402 » by Papi_swav » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:40 pm

I'm getting Kawhi Leonard vibes
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Cooper Flagg 

Post#403 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:55 pm

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Not really.

You overlook the fact that he was selected by these evaluators when forming the select team. So we need to get it out of the way that he was already projected good enough to be on the team.

Now we get to the scrimmage itself - he went from competing against 16 year Olds to holding his own against the best players in the world. Getting Buckets against some of the NBAs most elite defenders.

These pundits have every right to slobber over him. He was already projected to go number 1. Now we've seen him hold on his own against the best in the world. Many of us don't need to see him in college at this point to realize he's going to be special. Because a mere scrimmage against elite NBA players tells us way more than college games when evaluating how a kid will do long term. College games that don't even play the same playstyle of the NBA game, nevermind the vastly inferior competition. What you are basically saying is "he did well against the Boston Celtics Tuesdays night, but let's see how he does against the G-league fort Wayne mad ants" Friday.


So in your words he's going to be the number 1 player in college next year, obviously right if you believe all that.

All that from a scrimmage, coming off a year he averaged 16ppg, 7rpg, 4apg in HIGH SCHOOL and 9ppg the year prior.

So now he's going to come in and dominate college because he played well in a scrimmage that he probably treated like the biggest game in his life.You act like it was game 7 for the NBA players. They were practicing. Ever think he was pumped up, and they were just trying to not get hurt and get some reps in the middle of the summer.

He made a couple three's which isn't even his thing, (38% low volume in high school, 78% FT shooter). Ok crown him I guess, except he sucked in the McDonalds all American game in front of people if you want to hold exhibitions up as the end all be all. 3-9 shooting.

Why didn't he stand out on his high school team? Why didn't he block more shots or grab more rebounds? That has nothing to do with the coaching. The guy was just a 16ppg 7rpg guy on his HS team vs High schoolers. He didn't even stand out on his own team statistically. Barely led it in scoring tied in rebounding.

Again I've never said he can't be a good NBA player years from now or that he wouldn't be a #1 pick, but this best prospect since LeBron crap is stupid. So is projecting him to dominate college and be the best player in year one like many national media think.

Ok so what are his college stats next year? Better than 16ppg 7rpg? The guy that couldn't put up better stats on 17 year old high schoolers is going to do it in college next year right. Say it. A 17 and 200lb power forward is going to dominate college right? Let's get your projected stats on the record.


There is context and nuance that you are clearly missing or not seeing. His HS team Monteverde was the best HS team. Every starter and many backups are playing for major colleges like UConn, Baylor, Georgia, and other major teams. His team played the best competition in the country and he lead them in almost every category. In the summer he played AAU against the best players around the world and dominated. In peach jam against some of the top players in the country he had 104 points, 48 rebounds, 32 blocks, in three games.

This kid is gonna be great. Like…great.

I know we aren’t used to American white players, though that’s has changed last 15 years or so (AAU culture exposes suburban kids to elite athleticism and play early in careers in a way it doesn’t in high school.)

A player like Flagg has been able to improve athleticism, training and competition over the years and is an absolute animal. Best college prospect since Durant and best high school player since LeBron.

He’s better prospect than Zion and Anthony Davis.

Is he better than Wemby? Can be, but I take Wemby. Who is bigger and looks generational as well.




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Post#404 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:19 pm

Papi_swav wrote:I'm getting Kawhi Leonard vibes

Your vibes might have a computer malfunction. Send the vibes in for a checkup. :D

Ak47 with an offensive game vibes. 8-)
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Post#405 » by Lalouie » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:35 pm

MindState wrote:Gordon Hayward 2.0


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Post#406 » by MrBigShot » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:10 pm

He's definitely a very unique prospect. I think he's gonna be a nightmare for teams right out of the gate purely because he's such a fluid athlete and has a great motor.

Also...scottie barnes averaged ~15ppg in high school. Raw stats aren't the end all be all in HS and college. Guys on stacked teams aren't going to get the shot opportunities to put up gaudy numbers.
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Post#407 » by BAMAFREAK » Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:28 am

This guy has to have some family from the south to be so athletic. Anybody got a family tree on him?
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Post#408 » by MavsDirk41 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:41 am

The tankathon will be starting soon for this guy.
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Post#409 » by Deathray » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:51 am

Enes Kanter and Shabazz Muhammad dominated Nike HS all-star games too.
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Post#410 » by SomeBunghole » Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:16 am

Deathray wrote:Shabazz Muhammad dominated Nike HS all-star games too.


That's before we all found out he was actually 30-something, right?
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Post#411 » by Wallace_Wallace » Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:59 am

SomeBunghole wrote:
Deathray wrote:Shabazz Muhammad dominated Nike HS all-star games too.


That's before we all found out he was actually 30-something, right?


He essentially hold back a grade. He is a month older than me, and I was the graduation class of 2011 while he’s the class of 2012; most people at my graduation class were born in 1993 (which made me one of the “older” students). The fact he was more than a year older than his competition gave him an edge on development.
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Post#412 » by celtics543 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:34 pm

Finally people are realizing what an untapped athletic factory Maine is.. :D
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Post#414 » by Lalouie » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:46 am

i'll wait til duke at least
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Post#415 » by Tim Lehrbach » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:48 am

Lalouie wrote:
MindState wrote:Gordon Hayward 2.0


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Post#416 » by UcanUwill » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:56 am

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Damn, he looks great. Level of competition doesn't look awful or anything, but just watching EL and NBA, can tell how that Lincoln team is very slow on closeouts, they just a second too slow for that kid.
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Post#417 » by FrodoBaggins » Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:15 am

I was impressed by his length when dunking. It looks like he barely has to jump to dunk the ball. Check out the GIFs below. I'm a believer in his size and athleticism for the PF position.

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Post#418 » by UcanUwill » Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:20 am

FrodoBaggins wrote:I was impressed by his length when dunking. It looks like he barely has to jump to dunk the ball. Check out the GIFs below. I'm a believer in his size and athleticism for the PF position.

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I don't know who the hell measures him, because he for sure looks way longer than that measurements of his, what was it, like 6'7.5 without shoes with 6'10 or 6'11 wingspan? Like, get the hell out with that, just look at his shoulders and how he blocks shots, kid is super long.
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Post#419 » by Lalouie » Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:33 am

UcanUwill wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:


Damn, he looks great. Level of competition doesn't look awful or anything, but just watching EL and NBA, can tell how that Lincoln team is very slow on closeouts, they just a second too slow for that kid.


wow...he's got volleyball player bounce

but why do duke players all look alike
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Post#420 » by FrodoBaggins » Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:34 am

UcanUwill wrote:
FrodoBaggins wrote:I was impressed by his length when dunking. It looks like he barely has to jump to dunk the ball. Check out the GIFs below. I'm a believer in his size and athleticism for the PF position.

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I don't know who the hell measures him, because he for sure looks way longer than that measurements of his, what was it, like 6'7.5 without shoes with 6'10 or 6'11 wingspan? Like, get the hell out with that, just look at his shoulders and how he blocks shots, kid is super long.

Agreed. I still like Brandon Ingram (6'8" H, 7'3" WS, 9'1.5" SR) for an anthropometry comparison. Cooper's built like a thick/stocky/sturdier version of him.

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