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Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million

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Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#1 » by Rafael122 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:49 pm

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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#2 » by Frichuela » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:02 pm

$13.5 mn/year if my math is correct. I wonder if it is a descending contract.
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Post#3 » by Benjammin » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:02 pm

No complaints with that deal. Quite tradeable down the line.
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Post#4 » by Frichuela » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:07 pm

Even better! But is it also descending?

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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#5 » by payitforward » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:07 pm

Agree. Good for both parties.

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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#6 » by Rafael122 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:17 pm

So essentially he got the Moses Moody contract.
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Post#7 » by gesa2 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:20 pm

If it’s declining he’ll start at more than the MLE, which may mean we keep him for another year or two
Making extreme statements like "only" sounds like there are "no" Jokics in this draft? Jokic is an engine that was drafted in the 2nd round. Always a chance to see diamond dropped by sloppy burgular after a theft.
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#8 » by J-Ves » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:42 pm

Hopefully they start him and increase his role to maximize his counting stats. Make him a baby Beal and maybe a team will bite in the next two years
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Post#9 » by tontoz » Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:01 pm

Another good contract signed by our new mgt team. So glad that they aren't chumps in negotiations like their predecessors.

Grunfeld would have given him $30 million per year months ago.
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#10 » by gesa2 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:08 pm

tontoz wrote:Another good contract signed by our new mgt team. So glad that they aren't chumps in negotiations like their predecessors.

Grunfeld would have given him $30 million per year months ago.

And then used a first to dump him 2 years later
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#11 » by Frichuela » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:13 pm

gesa2 wrote:
tontoz wrote:Another good contract signed by our new mgt team. So glad that they aren't chumps in negotiations like their predecessors.

Grunfeld would have given him $30 million per year months ago.

And then used a first to dump him 2 years later


So true! What a clown he was :lol:
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#12 » by nate33 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:16 pm

I posted this in the Kispert thread when Sam Hauser was resigned:

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This should pretty much establish the market for Kispert.

Kispert is a more dynamic offensive player than Hauser, but Hauser is a better defender. In terms of playing a specific role for a playoff team, Hauser is arguably the more useful player.

Hopefully, we can lock Kispert up to a $12M per year deal that declines. So it would be: $13.7M/$12.6M/$11.4M/$10.3M


and then a little later:

nate33 wrote:I'm guessing Hauser took a slight discount to play on a title contender, and, as you pointed out, Kispert has the first-round-pick pedigree. With those two factors in mind, I think it is likely that Kispert will command a salary roughly equivalent to Hauser, and maybe slightly more. There's also the possibility that Kispert hasn't quite peaked whereas Hauser almost surely has.


Turned out to be pretty accurate.
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Post#13 » by Benjammin » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:24 pm

Since the fourth year is a team option, that year cannot be declining salary apparently.
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#14 » by trast66 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:18 am

Kispert carries a poison pill restriction until July 1st, 2025, so expect him to be traded at that time on a deal announced day of draft. Will Dawkins not doing Grunfeldian deals thank goodness.
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Post#15 » by closg00 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:30 am

trast66 wrote:Kispert carries a poison pill restriction until July 1st, 2025, so expect him to be traded at that time on a deal announced day of draft. Will Dawkins not doing Grunfeldian deals thank goodness.


Can’t see Corey netting us much in a trade, but who knows
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#16 » by lastemp3ror » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:18 pm

Two days ago I wrote this in the Deni trade thread:
"The strategy mentioned when Deni was traded will only make sense if Kuzma and Kispert are also traded, maybe along with Jonas, Poole, and Brogdon. If that doesn't happen, saying Deni was traded due to his contract timeline not syncing with the younger players is all BS."

Am I delusional? Wasn't Deni's trade the result of his contract/age not lining up with the younger players' timeline? If so, someone please help me make sense of this deal?
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#17 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:49 pm

lastemp3ror wrote:Two days ago I wrote this in the Deni trade thread:
"The strategy mentioned when Deni was traded will only make sense if Kuzma and Kispert are also traded, maybe along with Jonas, Poole, and Brogdon. If that doesn't happen, saying Deni was traded due to his contract timeline not syncing with the younger players is all BS."

Am I delusional? Wasn't Deni's trade the result of his contract/age not lining up with the younger players' timeline? If so, someone please help me make sense of this deal?

Simple. Kispert has more trade value with a long term deal locked in. They will probably trade him sooner or later, but there was no deal out there at the moment.
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#18 » by DCZards » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:33 pm

lastemp3ror wrote:Two days ago I wrote this in the Deni trade thread:
"The strategy mentioned when Deni was traded will only make sense if Kuzma and Kispert are also traded, maybe along with Jonas, Poole, and Brogdon. If that doesn't happen, saying Deni was traded due to his contract timeline not syncing with the younger players is all BS."

Am I delusional? Wasn't Deni's trade the result of his contract/age not lining up with the younger players' timeline? If so, someone please help me make sense of this deal?

With Deni it was not simply about contract/age. It was also about the assets they could get in return for trading him.
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#19 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:44 pm

Exactly. We got a R1 pick, a pair of R2 picks, & Malcolm Brogdon (or, one might prefer to say, the trade value of Malcolm Brogdon).
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Re: Shams: Kispert extends, 4 yrs/$54 million 

Post#20 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:48 pm

nate33 wrote:
lastemp3ror wrote:...someone please help me make sense of this deal?

Simple. Kispert has more trade value with a long term deal locked in. They will probably trade him sooner or later, but there was no deal out there at the moment.

In fact, if we'd allowed Kispert to go unsigned now, his trade value would have declined -- immediately.

I.e., to your point, not as good a deal as they feel they'll be able to get with him locked up for 4 years at reasonable cost.

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