PG: Knicks vs Celtics: Season opener!

[Butch718]

I suspect a lot of the takes in this thread are gonna age like milk come March and April.

[The KnicksFix]

Looking back at the replay of this game now, the defensive lineups are all weird, we somehow matched up
OG against brown
hart on white
Brunson on holiday
Mikal on Tatum
KAT was the only defensive assignment that was correct, covering Horford.

It just doesn’t make sense:
OG is the defender that should be on Tatum
mikal on brown
Hart should be guarding holiday,
Brunson on white
OR drop hart to the bench and have Deuce play Holiday on defense in the starting lineup

These matchups matter because now if they switch the pick and roll, with Tatum will be isolating on Brunson, OG would therefore be switched on to white, but this means hart and mikal can help, this means everyone has to rotate. Im sure this will come with time

Looking At the highlights of last year’s game where we beat the Celtics 6 months ago,
OG guarded tatum
Donte on white
Brunson on holiday
Ihart on KP
Hart on brown….
We won this game because Tatum was essentially eliminated as an offensive threat

In the game that we lost on opening night a season ago, grimes was the primary defender on Tatum and Brunson played holiday…
See the trend?

PUT OG ON THE OPPOSING TEAM’S STAR, WITH MIKAL ON THE SECONDARY STAR
ITS NOT THAT HARD
Additionally, Kat needs to step UP in the pick and roll rather than playing drop coverage

[Im Coming Home]

This is all Melos fault for making the game thread

[Im Coming Home]

I mean I'm not that worried. It sucks as got embarrassed BUT this is a new team with essentially no chemistry yet, against the world champs who basically had everyone return from last year and knows how to play together..

[3toheadmelo]

People deflecting to Randle as if he’s the reason why we gave up a record setting amount of 3s in all time season openers. It’s sad. He’s not a Knick anymore, can’t blame him anymore. I told y’all this was the type of defense y’all are getting with KAT. Y’all refuse to accept reality.

[3toheadmelo]

Oh and Mikal hasn’t played defense in years. I been told y’all that. Has nothing to do with his “role” on Brooklyn. Trade him before we have to extend him.

[Parraknick]

Oh and Mikal hasn’t played defense in years. I been told y’all that. Has nothing to do with his “role” on Brooklyn. Trade him before we have to extend him.

What’s the reason he has opted out of playing D?

[3toheadmelo]

Oh and Mikal hasn’t played defense in years. I been told y’all that. Has nothing to do with his “role” on Brooklyn. Trade him before we have to extend him.

What’s the reason he has opted out of playing D?

He doesn’t care.

[Parraknick]

Oh and Mikal hasn’t played defense in years. I been told y’all that. Has nothing to do with his “role” on Brooklyn. Trade him before we have to extend him.

What’s the reason he has opted out of playing D?

He doesn’t care.

I see. Well, hopefully this is the environment for him to reinstate his willingness.

[god shammgod]

y'all keep talking about the matchup but if mikal can't guard tatum what the hell did we trade 5 picks for him for ? it wasn't for his offense. the whole idea should be that both og and him can guard either celtics wing.

[3toheadmelo]

y'all keep talking about the matchup but if mikal can't guard tatum what the hell did we trade 5 picks for him for ? it wasn;t for his offense. the whole idea should be that both og and him can guard either celtics wing.

We built the worst team to guard Boston

[Iron Mantis]

Bodega Kat is really Basura Kat

he's the worst starting defensive center in the league by far. and the knicks decided to go all in on him.

There were dudes out there tonight that were absolutely garbage, including our 40 million dollar man, but yeah, let's pick on the one guy who held it down with Brunson while only being here a week.

Mazzula ran circles around Thibs tonight, said you can't make more three's than us, showed his hand, and Thibs still was emphatic about protecting the paint against a team known for chucking. All they had to do was switch when they were hot and it would've brought them back to earth, which is what they did against us, gave us no penetration and dared to out shoot them from the arc, yet this guy still didn't start the hottest player on the team in the second half, went with Mike and Ike guy who was getting cum shots to the face all night from every Boston player while he himself stood around jerking off on offense.

My point is, there were worse guys out there than Kat, the game plan was trash, yet you're still on one guy's dikk because your favorite player was traded for him. I didn't like his selfish play sometimes, but I liked Randle, his moxi, telling dumb know it all Knicks fans to **** off, but he's gone dude. Move on, makes no sense to hate a current player because you worship dudes no longer here. You have an inefficient chucker as your avatar, even took his name. You certainly have a type and it's cool, but stop the idolatry. You root for the name on the front.

If Kat s hits the bed next game, sure, give it to him, but this is so forced it's sad.

Well dang. Put a foot to Melo's a$$.

Everything you said is 100% true though.

The guy is not even a Knicks fan at this point... he's just a desperate and thirsty Celtics/Wolves fan trolling our board, bashing our newly acquired All-Star Center so he can feel better about Randle being traded. Sad.

Randle is gone and he needs to either get over it or go join the Wolves board.

There's plenty of blame to go around this game but it's more about being realistic. And trying to pin it all on KAT is a typical Standle move.

The Celtics have consistently blown the Knicks out over the past year. An entirely new team with no chemistry wasn't waltzing into their home on the night that they're coked up celebrating their championship and actually embarrass them in front of their fans.

[Chanel Bomber]

y'all keep talking about the matchup but if mikal can't guard tatum what the hell did we trade 5 picks for him for ? it wasn't for his offense. the whole idea should be that both og and him can guard either celtics wing.

I think the Mikal trade was a mistake.

Giving away our entire draft capital to our rival for a player who's never been even just an All-Star was foolish.

When players stop playing defense, I think it's difficult to rein them back in and expect them to do the dirty work again.

I'm not worried about the Randle-KAT swap but Mikal cost way too much. Those resources would've been better allocated elsewhere.

[3toheadmelo]

he's the worst starting defensive center in the league by far. and the knicks decided to go all in on him.

There were dudes out there tonight that were absolutely garbage, including our 40 million dollar man, but yeah, let's pick on the one guy who held it down with Brunson while only being here a week.

Mazzula ran circles around Thibs tonight, said you can't make more three's than us, showed his hand, and Thibs still was emphatic about protecting the paint against a team known for chucking. All they had to do was switch when they were hot and it would've brought them back to earth, which is what they did against us, gave us no penetration and dared to out shoot them from the arc, yet this guy still didn't start the hottest player on the team in the second half, went with Mike and Ike guy who was getting cum shots to the face all night from every Boston player while he himself stood around jerking off on offense.

My point is, there were worse guys out there than Kat, the game plan was trash, yet you're still on one guy's dikk because your favorite player was traded for him. I didn't like his selfish play sometimes, but I liked Randle, his moxi, telling dumb know it all Knicks fans to **** off, but he's gone dude. Move on, makes no sense to hate a current player because you worship dudes no longer here. You have an inefficient chucker as your avatar, even took his name. You certainly have a type and it's cool, but stop the idolatry. You root for the name on the front.

If Kat s hits the bed next game, sure, give it to him, but this is so forced it's sad.

Well dang. Put a foot to Melo's a$$.

Everything you said is 100% true though.

The guy is not even a Knicks fan at this point... he's just a desperate and thirsty Celtics/Wolves fan trolling our board, bashing our newly acquired All-Star Center so he can feel better about Randle being traded. Sad.

Randle is gone and he needs to either get over it or go join the Wolves board.

There's plenty of blame to go around this game but it's more about being realistic. And trying to pin it all on KAT is a typical Standle move.

The Celtics have consistently blown the Knicks out over the past year. An entirely new team with no chemistry wasn't waltzing into their home on the night that they're coked up celebrating their championship and actually embarrass them in front of their fans.

You of all people calling me not a Knicks fan when you trolled the board for years rooting for RJ and Obi over the team

Deflecting to Randle isn't gonna change the fact that KAT is historically one of the worst defensive centers of all time. Trying to blame Randle for that is literally hilarious. Just shows your lack of control over emotions and inability to hold your favorite player accountable. Same thing you did with RJ and Obi. Typical RJ Barb move.

[Starks]

Don't care about the loss, it was expected, although maybe not as bad.

I do care though that the sport I used to love has now become a glorified 3pt shooting contest, and is more and more unwatchable as the years go by.

[Iron Mantis]

There were dudes out there tonight that were absolutely garbage, including our 40 million dollar man, but yeah, let's pick on the one guy who held it down with Brunson while only being here a week.

Mazzula ran circles around Thibs tonight, said you can't make more three's than us, showed his hand, and Thibs still was emphatic about protecting the paint against a team known for chucking. All they had to do was switch when they were hot and it would've brought them back to earth, which is what they did against us, gave us no penetration and dared to out shoot them from the arc, yet this guy still didn't start the hottest player on the team in the second half, went with Mike and Ike guy who was getting cum shots to the face all night from every Boston player while he himself stood around jerking off on offense.

My point is, there were worse guys out there than Kat, the game plan was trash, yet you're still on one guy's dikk because your favorite player was traded for him. I didn't like his selfish play sometimes, but I liked Randle, his moxi, telling dumb know it all Knicks fans to **** off, but he's gone dude. Move on, makes no sense to hate a current player because you worship dudes no longer here. You have an inefficient chucker as your avatar, even took his name. You certainly have a type and it's cool, but stop the idolatry. You root for the name on the front.

If Kat s hits the bed next game, sure, give it to him, but this is so forced it's sad.

Well dang. Put a foot to Melo's a$$.

Everything you said is 100% true though.

The guy is not even a Knicks fan at this point... he's just a desperate and thirsty Celtics/Wolves fan trolling our board, bashing our newly acquired All-Star Center so he can feel better about Randle being traded. Sad.

Randle is gone and he needs to either get over it or go join the Wolves board.

There's plenty of blame to go around this game but it's more about being realistic. And trying to pin it all on KAT is a typical Standle move.

The Celtics have consistently blown the Knicks out over the past year. An entirely new team with no chemistry wasn't waltzing into their home on the night that they're coked up celebrating their championship and actually embarrass them in front of their fans.

You of all people calling me not a Knicks fan when you trolled the board for years rooting for RJ and Obi over the team

Deflecting to Randle isn't gonna change the fact that KAT is historically one of the worst defensive centers of all time. Trying to blame Randle for that is literally hilarious. Just shows your lack of control over emotions and inability to hold your favorite player accountable. Same thing you did with RJ and Obi. Typical RJ Barb move.

Blaming one player for the entire Celtics team making 29 3's is a dummy take.

No one is "deflecting" to Randle. However, the whole board knows that Randle being jettisoned is your entire motivation for bashing our newly acquired star. Randle is gone. Get over it or go to the Wolves' board.

[Kampuchea]

We downgraded from Randle to KAT and gave them Donte on top of it. Time to rebuild

[Iron Mantis]

The game was lost in the 1st quarter.

Celtics made 10 total 3pt shots in the 1st quarter.

KAT left the game for the quarter after the 4th 3pt make of those 10 3pt makes.

KAT played disgustingly bad defense on 2 of those 4 makes...he was directly responsible for the Celts hitting 2 open 3's in the 1st quarter.

Blaming him, or any single player for the Celts making 29 3's, though, is just a desperate move to find a scapegoat.

The Celts were hitting every shot on anyone. The overall Knicks defensive scheme looked sus.

All the Celts made 3's:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FG3M&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022400061&PlayerID=0&RangeType=0&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612738&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

[thebuzzardman]

y'all keep talking about the matchup but if mikal can't guard tatum what the hell did we trade 5 picks for him for ? it wasn't for his offense. the whole idea should be that both og and him can guard either celtics wing.

I think the Mikal trade was a mistake.

Giving away our entire draft capital to our rival for a player who's never been even just an All-Star was foolish.

When players stop playing defense, I think it's difficult to rein them back in and expect them to do the dirty work again.

I'm not worried about the Randle-KAT swap but Mikal cost way too much. Those resources would've been better allocated elsewhere.

I liked the Mikal trade but I'm with you here. It's one game into "The Mikal Era" and I can't wait for this goofy f*ck to be off the team.

And this will be the last comment I make all year, because this team disgusts me now, but:

Hart/Mikal/Bridges is a BAD fit.

They aren't gifted enough on offense to play together, and no level of skill or ability by Brunson or KAT makes up for it.
It's nice they are wing defenders (in Mikal's case, theoretically), but they aren't knockdown 3 point shooters, and when they aren't making 3's, which will be often enough, they aren't good enough with the ball in their hands.

The league is tilted by rules, referees and talent to be a bomb shooting 3 point league.
Knicks lack those players

Knicks made huge trades to "counter Boston" and after the trade dust has settled, they aren't even in the same league.
F*ck, I don't know if they are in the same class as Orlando or Indiana.

Donte didn't magically solve that either, but he was more reliable from 3.

If the Knicks got KAT but kept Donte, MAYBE this team could have gotten past Boston. Probably not, as Boston brings at 3 players off the bench that can shoot 3s, while the Knicks bring in....McBride and Sims?

Now? No way.

So, we saw the "high water mark" for this team last year. That was it. It was nice, but it's over.

Now the team is stuck with ill fitting parts and Goofy McF*ckface bricking 3s plus being an average defender and scorer.


See you all next year.
I didn't wait all year to watch bad basketball or see Brunson's prime wasted.
I hope he likes hanging out with Hart and Bridges, because the team kind of sucks with them.

[thebuzzardman]

We downgraded from Randle to KAT and gave them Donte on top of it. Time to rebuild

Randle to KAT isn't a downgrade but the Knicks weren't good enough to give up Donte, because Mikal is a POS.