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Post#1781 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:56 am

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Whatever ol reek does the rest of his career this will never leave him. Such a **** moment for that guy

It’s sad because he’s actually a really good DB, especially when you factor in they almost never throw to JJ side and how much he gets targeted


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Post#1782 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:26 am

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Whatever ol reek does the rest of his career this will never leave him. Such a **** moment for that guy

It’s sad because he’s actually a really good DB, especially when you factor in they almost never throw to JJ side and how much he gets targeted


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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1783 » by fleet » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:32 am

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Well we do need one. I wouldn’t trade for one without upgrading the oline first though. I love Odunze but I have to wonder how our defense would look with someone like Verse on the opposite of Sweat. Sigh….

Gotta build this oline for the good of our #1 pick.

A DE is a want more than a need. The Bears defense just held their latest opponent to under 20 points again. It is in no way a priority that makes it a prudent decision to go into hock for a DE. Especially since, again, while it is “time to win” according to Poles, it isn’t time to go all in.


I don’t think we should be going for a myles garrett but we are definitely in need of an upgrade. Im not saying go all in for one. Obviously look at the oline first. Have to look at all avenues of improving.

If you’re talking about a low round pick for some guy, whatever. The Bears already did that this year though. If you’re getting Tre Hendrickson for a. 4RP, then maybe, idk. But I see all this talk about loading up more on defense while the offense is struggling and I am smdh. Sooooo Chicago mentality that we can’t ever let it go, even with a quote unquote franchise quarterback to build around for the first time in franchise history. :banghead:
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Post#1784 » by Bulls69 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:17 am

Chi town wrote:What pisses me off the most is the offense was a zero coming out of a bye week.

How does that happen???

Because the Bears were smelling themselves coming out the win in London including the coaches. The Bears actually gave away two games this season Indy and Washington blame that’s on coaching.


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Post#1785 » by Bulls69 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:29 am

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I’m a person that rarely blames the officials but on that Hail Mary they missed a couple of holding calls. I said the same thing about the Sam Darnold face mask non called against the Rams.


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Post#1786 » by Bulls69 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:34 am

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RastaBull wrote:I know it's time for being pissed and blaming coaches and franchise. But there's some things to evaluate Caleb wiht in this game (which is most important thing this season).

(1) He has a special level of IQ for a Rookie QB. I'm really amazed/impressed/excited seeing how capable he is every single time he is able to progress through his reads. Granted, he doesn't get the time to do it much of the time. But his eyes are really impressive.
(2) We know by now he has the special ability to make special passes after extending the play. That Keenan Allen on this week, the Kmet one last week. That's nice to have.

(3) His overthrowing is really really bad. It's the most frustrating and biggest concern to me. Sometimes I think, "well, better to overthrow it than under throw ... or at least he's throwing it where it can't be picked off." But it's become such a consistent issue I think it's just a problem he has. However, this is something that can be fixed, that he can grow with and develop ... those two traits up above are much harder if not impossible to teach.

Yes, in juxtaposition Daniels looks great. But a lot of it is his running and ability to make plays on his feet when there's not something open. We know from our own experience with Fields, this does not make a franchise QB. The other difference is he has a very capable OC that is scheming great plays for him to get ball out quickly to open guys. Daniels does not progress through multiple reads. He doesn't have an insanely accurate arm either (hail mary is 90% luck and some arm power ... doesn't say much about how a QB will turn out). The biggest difference in Daniels success this year is OC/playcalling and a competent oline.

I'm still very excited for Caleb to be our franchise QB. And think this team is prepared to playoff push this year.


Daniels is every bit as talented as Williams. Stop coping.

Yea so far,he's lost to his peers in Stroud and Daniels. Guys that them and Jordan Love are going to be his nemesis for years to come. I know that Caleb didn't surrender the hail Mary, but he did play pretty bad for 3 quarters.

It's early, but trying to lie to yourself bringing these guys down to lift ours up, is not reality

He’s a rookie that is going to be a rookie in his first season. Let’s not worry about judging him to others let him grow I’m more concerned about our coaching staff blowing two games the Colts and the Commanders


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Post#1787 » by Charlesareed » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:39 am

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Chi town wrote:What pisses me off the most is the offense was a zero coming out of a bye week.

How does that happen???

Because the Bears were smelling themselves coming out the win in London including the coaches. The Bears actually gave away two games this season Indy and Washington blame that on coaching.


The Texans game bears let slip away aswell that loss was ok Caleb

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Post#1788 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:16 pm

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fleet wrote:A DE is a want more than a need. The Bears defense just held their latest opponent to under 20 points again. It is in no way a priority that makes it a prudent decision to go into hock for a DE. Especially since, again, while it is “time to win” according to Poles, it isn’t time to go all in.


I don’t think we should be going for a myles garrett but we are definitely in need of an upgrade. Im not saying go all in for one. Obviously look at the oline first. Have to look at all avenues of improving.

If you’re talking about a low round pick for some guy, whatever. The Bears already did that this year though. If you’re getting Tre Hendrickson for a. 4RP, then maybe, idk. But I see all this talk about loading up more on defense while the offense is struggling and I am smdh. Sooooo Chicago mentality that we can’t ever let it go, even with a quote unquote franchise quarterback to build around for the first time in franchise history. :banghead:


Yes we for sure have bigger needs but we shouldn’t disregard the importance of improving our pass rush. We don’t need to be tunnel visioned. That is all.
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Post#1789 » by Bulls69 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:25 pm

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I don’t think we should be going for a myles garrett but we are definitely in need of an upgrade. Im not saying go all in for one. Obviously look at the oline first. Have to look at all avenues of improving.

If you’re talking about a low round pick for some guy, whatever. The Bears already did that this year though. If you’re getting Tre Hendrickson for a. 4RP, then maybe, idk. But I see all this talk about loading up more on defense while the offense is struggling and I am smdh. Sooooo Chicago mentality that we can’t ever let it go, even with a quote unquote franchise quarterback to build around for the first time in franchise history. :banghead:


Yes we for sure have bigger needs but we shouldn’t disregard the importance of improving our pass rush. We don’t need to be tunnel visioned. That is all.

I’m more concerned with the Bears coaching staff mainly our Head Coach Flus he is a great coordinator but lacks the skills to manage. If some reason the Bears head coaching job becomes available this coming offseason this will become a prime opportunity the team is nearly finished .


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Post#1790 » by panthermark » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:32 pm

Is there any team that is WORSE at hail marys than Chicago?

Not only did Rodgers abuse us for a decade on them, but do you remember our attempts last year?
Fields threw one that ended up counting as a pick even though it clearly hit the ground.
He threw another one that was tipped into Mooney's gut, and he managed to kick it to a defender to lose the game.
Even this year, the team actually completed a FAIL Mary and caught the tip on the 1 yard line. I've never, ever, ever seen that.
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Post#1791 » by panthermark » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:35 pm

As for Stevenson. I remember a conversation last year on him where I expressed I'm not a fan. Mostly because he talks too much ****, and he just needs to play. He seemed to have settled down later in the year, but he so "big play/bad play" that I preferred Smith over him.

Hopefully he keeps his trap shut for the rest of his career. This ain't "The U"....just shut it and play ball man.
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Post#1792 » by Dresden » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:46 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:After rewatching the Hail Mary over and over again, the thing that would have prevented the miracle tip and catch is #31 Byard staying in front of the receiver who ends up catching the tipped ball.


I don't know how they coach the players on a Hail Mary, but it seems obvious you'd always want to have one guy be the deepest player and not let anyone get behind him. that way if the ball is tipped backwards, you have a guy there to defend it. I don't see that Stevenson did anything wrong, other than he was the tallest guy or he leaped the highest and so it was his hand the ball went off of.
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Post#1793 » by Almost Retired » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:51 pm

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I don’t think we should be going for a myles garrett but we are definitely in need of an upgrade. Im not saying go all in for one. Obviously look at the oline first. Have to look at all avenues of improving.

If you’re talking about a low round pick for some guy, whatever. The Bears already did that this year though. If you’re getting Tre Hendrickson for a. 4RP, then maybe, idk. But I see all this talk about loading up more on defense while the offense is struggling and I am smdh. Sooooo Chicago mentality that we can’t ever let it go, even with a quote unquote franchise quarterback to build around for the first time in franchise history. :banghead:


Yes we for sure have bigger needs but we shouldn’t disregard the importance of improving our pass rush. We don’t need to be tunnel visioned. That is all.


We can get O-Line help with our 2 Second round picks. Use our own FRP for an EDGE. Mocks are showing that perhaps Nic Scourton or Jack Sawyer might be available when we pick. And there are a few others that would also fit the bill in case we win more games than I think we might at this stage, I'm already chalking up two losses each to the Lions and Packers. Maybe a split with the Vikings. Only the Patriots should, on paper, look like a lock. We're probably looking at a 6 or 7 win season at best. Which means better picks. We weren't going to the SB this season anyway.
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Post#1794 » by Dresden » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:57 pm

I don't get why our offense is so slow to make adjustments. It was obvious after the first two series that what they were trying to do wasn't working. But they kept doing it for another 2 and a half quarters. If Caleb keeps getting flushed out of the pocket, use the short passing game. Screen plays have been some of Swift's biggest plays this year, yet I don't think they called a single one to him yesterday. use the tight end- Kmet had one target yesterday. He should be getting 5-7 per game.

And they have to find a way to get their WR's the ball where they can get some YAC. DJ and Odunze are very hard to bring down, yet we seldom put them in a position where they have a chance to get YAC.

The whole offense just looks terrible and out of sync, Caleb included. I know it's his first year and there will be growing pains, but at the same time, it sure looks like there are adjustments that could be made to get them going. As it is, they might as well just punt on first down to start the game- I don't know if they have any first downs all year on their first possession.
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Post#1795 » by TheStig » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:06 pm

Dresden wrote:I don't get why our offense is so slow to make adjustments. It was obvious after the first two series that what they were trying to do wasn't working. But they kept doing it for another 2 and a half quarters. If Caleb keeps getting flushed out of the pocket, use the short passing game. Screen plays have been some of Swift's biggest plays this year, yet I don't think they called a single one to him yesterday. use the tight end- Kmet had one target yesterday. He should be getting 5-7 per game.

And they have to find a way to get their WR's the ball where they can get some YAC. DJ and Odunze are very hard to bring down, yet we seldom put them in a position where they have a chance to get YAC.

The whole offense just looks terrible and out of sync, Caleb included. I know it's his first year and there will be growing pains, but at the same time, it sure looks like there are adjustments that could be made to get them going. As it is, they might as well just punt on first down to start the game- I don't know if they have any first downs all year on their first possession.

It's hard for the offense to look good with a dreadful Oline. That being said, they don't scheme to help it at all. I know we don't have a quality Oline but it's hard to imagine them being this bad. It's only going to get worse as they play real teams through the end of the year. I hope it doesn't set Caleb back getting his brains beat in and being subjected to that.
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Post#1796 » by GetBuLLish » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:16 pm

Some of the most pathetic coaching I've ever seen on those last two plays. First, the Bears completely gift Washington 15 free yards.

Then the comedy of errors on the Hail Mary play. The Bears not only send just three rushers but leave all of their best pass rushers on the bench. They use TJ Edwards as a spy on Jayden as though he's a threat to run the ball, as a result making Edwards utterly useless on the play:

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Can someone please explain to me what purpose No. 53 serves there?

Then they don't have anyone covering a player wide open in the end zone. And to top it all off, you have Stevenson taunting fans while the play is live.

Those last two plays plus the Kramer fumble have convinced me that this coaching staff is a fatal flaw in the team's construction. I have no confidence that they can get the most out of the player personnel.

Silver lining is that our coaching incompetence is serving as a teaching tool for the rest of the league. Glad we can help.

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Post#1797 » by molepharmer » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:06 pm

I'm always amazed at how dumb/unaware pro athletes can be despite being coached over and over on the proper play. Baseball, football, basketball, etc makes no difference. Pros just inexcuseably go brain dead providing us with WTF moments.
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Post#1798 » by CjayC » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:54 pm

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We can't do this. Also heard he gave a very tone deaf post game speech.
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Post#1799 » by fleet » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:59 pm

One way to lose the team.
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Post#1800 » by Chi town » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:06 pm

Poles has put together a better team than what the Bears have shown.

Flus and Waldron need to go. Mistakes like yesterday can’t keep happening. I’m convinced that Kingsbury would have us humming and Caleb would be farther along.

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