2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2)

[thelead]

game sucked, the arguments here were more entertaining

At the end of the day, even though we have our disagreements, I know we all just want to win. Sucks that we're not winning right now but it's expected against this level of competition.

Also, somewhat lost in the Franz talk, is his brother and the current lack big depth. Mo is killing us and JI doesn't look right.

[PerkinsFor3]

Wht didnt Goga see any minutes, with WCjr down?

[KillMonger]

Our offense only works when you have someone who can draw two defenders.... Paolo is the only one capable of that consistently

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

Wht didnt Goga see any minutes, with WCjr down?

Injured (foot)

[thelead]

Wht didnt Goga see any minutes, with WCjr down?

he's dealing with an injury too

[Knightro]

Literally six days ago the Magic beat Indiana to improve to 3-1 and everyone was falling over themselves with happiness and excitement over how good Paolo looked as the No. 1, how good Franz looked as the No. 2 and how good Suggs looked as the No. 3 on top of the flashes guys like Black were showing.

And now Paolo gets hurt and everyone is freaking out because Franz isn't equipped to be a 1 and Suggs isn't equipped to be a 2? And Black is still 20 years old and will have his own ups and downs?

[VFX]

The Magic lost a guy averaging 29-9-6 on a .590 TS% and we have people suggesting that Paolo might be looking for a way out because the team is struggling without him against two really good teams on the road?

What are we even talking about here guys and gals?

You are basically saying that this team is 100% with Paolo.

It’s not.

This team last season was poor offensively with a healthy roster of players for the most part. Paolo will not score 50 points a night.

The FO gave a bunch of money to guys that either can’t stay healthy or haven’t proven they belong on the court so far this season. That’s a problem.

The issue isn’t Paolo/Franz/Suggs.

The issue is making a real offense work without leaning entirely on one guy.

[Rainwater]

I know it has only been two games but Maxy put a better effort in those games without Embiid than Franz has without Paolo.

Hell, look at the effort that Paolo put in while Franz was gone. It’s night and day.

How about Maxey so far this year?

He got a max contract this offseason just like Franz did and is shooting 38.5% from the floor and 26.3 from 3PT as the No. 1 option.

It's a lot harder, even when you're a very good player which Maxey and Franz both are, to succeed when you're put into a role that you shouldn't be in.

But that doesn't mean you're not still worth your contract.

Maxey is also averaging 30 ppg. Yes, his percentages are horrid, no denying that. But he still has this alpha mentality that he has to lead his team to win. This was the same vibe he had when Embiid was out last year. I don’t get this vibe from Franz

[RichCollab]

Literally six days ago the Magic beat Indiana to improve to 3-1 and everyone was falling over themselves with happiness and excitement over how good Paolo looked as the No. 1, how good Franz looked as the No. 2 and how good Suggs looked as the No. 3 on top of the flashes guys like Black were showing.

And now Paolo gets hurt and everyone is freaking out because Franz isn't equipped to be a 1 and Suggs isn't equipped to be a 2? And Black is still 20 years old and will have his own ups and downs?

I thought the team was more mentally strong than this.

Mose isn’t doing a great job either.

We need to show more than this.

[KillMonger]

Without P it's like we lost our mojo..... He's gone but you can still control energy, we look lethargic out there

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[thelead]

We're jacking up a ton of terrible 3's right now. It's obviously an area of focus for the team but the looks aren't the same without Paolo drawing doubles and triples. Mose needs to do something there.

[Rainwater]

Literally six days ago the Magic beat Indiana to improve to 3-1 and everyone was falling over themselves with happiness and excitement over how good Paolo looked as the No. 1, how good Franz looked as the No. 2 and how good Suggs looked as the No. 3 on top of the flashes guys like Black were showing.

And now Paolo gets hurt and everyone is freaking out because Franz isn't equipped to be a 1 and Suggs isn't equipped to be a 2? And Black is still 20 years old and will have his own ups and downs?

True, we maybe overreacting due to expectations, I will settle down. But I never liked Franz as a 2nd option, I always thought he was better as third. And he is not helping himself right now especially on a max contract. But you are right, we will see how he continues to play.

[three3d]

Our offense only works when you have someone who can draw two defenders.... Paolo is the only one capable of that consistently

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* Our offense only works when we have someone who can draw FOUR defenders *

[Knightro]

4 games into the season Franz was averaging over 20 PPG on a .536/.440/.917 slash as Paolo's 2nd banana.

Then the guy gets sick and has a couple of meh low minute games and then Paolo gets hurt during the second of those games.

So then in the last two games Franz - coming off the illness against two good playoff teams on the road - has a USG rate well over 30 in the two games and he struggles because he's being stretched far beyond his ideal role?

But we're pissed off because he's not capable of becoming Paolo at the drop of a hat? He's no longer worth his contract?

I don't get it.

[Ducklett]

4 games into the season Franz was averaging over 20 PPG on a .536/.440/.917 slash as Paolo's 2nd banana.

Then the guy gets sick and has a couple of meh low minute games and then Paolo gets hurt during the second of those games.

So then in the last two games Franz - coming off the illness against two good playoff teams on the road - has a USG rate well over 30 in the two games and he struggles because he's being stretched far beyond his ideal role?

But we're pissed off because he's not capable of becoming Paolo at the drop of a hat? He's no longer worth his contract?

I don't get it.

Children throwing tantrums.

[CZ Eddie]

Well, that was an interesting game.
We need to be able to win 50% or better of our games without Banchero, if we ever want to win 75%+ with him!

[Rainwater]

The Magic lost a guy averaging 29-9-6 on a .590 TS% and we have people suggesting that Paolo might be looking for a way out because the team is struggling without him against two really good teams on the road?

What are we even talking about here guys and gals?

True, this a bit too far.

[RookieStar]

Literally six days ago the Magic beat Indiana to improve to 3-1 and everyone was falling over themselves with happiness and excitement over how good Paolo looked as the No. 1, how good Franz looked as the No. 2 and how good Suggs looked as the No. 3 on top of the flashes guys like Black were showing.

And now Paolo gets hurt and everyone is freaking out because Franz isn't equipped to be a 1 and Suggs isn't equipped to be a 2? And Black is still 20 years old and will have his own ups and downs?

True, we maybe overreacting due to expectations, I will settle down but I never liked Franz as 2nd option. I always thought he was better as third and he is not helping himself right now and got a max contract. But you are right. We will see how he continues to play.

Franz is/was the 1A option for team GER that won yhe worlf cup last year and almost medalled in the Olynpics this year. He is fine as a #2 option.

Team us just reeling from the Paolo news and it doesnt help that we faced 2 high seed PO contenders

[three3d]

4 games into the season Franz was averaging over 20 PPG on a .536/.440/.917 slash as Paolo's 2nd banana.

Then the guy gets sick and has a couple of meh low minute games and then Paolo gets hurt during the second of those games.

So then in the last two games Franz - coming off the illness against two good playoff teams on the road - has a USG rate well over 30 in the two games and he struggles because he's being stretched far beyond his ideal role?

But we're pissed off because he's not capable of becoming Paolo at the drop of a hat? He's no longer worth his contract?

I don't get it.

Convince me Franz’s stats = winning basketball games..

[The-Stallion70]

4 games into the season Franz was averaging over 20 PPG on a .536/.440/.917 slash as Paolo's 2nd banana.

Then the guy gets sick and has a couple of meh low minute games and then Paolo gets hurt during the second of those games.

So then in the last two games Franz - coming off the illness against two good playoff teams on the road - has a USG rate well over 30 in the two games and he struggles because he's being stretched far beyond his ideal role?

But we're pissed off because he's not capable of becoming Paolo at the drop of a hat? He's no longer worth his contract?

I don't get it.

The early returns haven't been encouraging man

The alarmist reactions seem justified after two games that are basically over by halftime. It is only two games but this has really been disheartening to see the team perform like this.