Yanks talking to the Bucs

Post #1 » by **sully00** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 2:13 pm

http://buccoblog.mlblogs.com/

Don't know what it is worth but I have seen other blogs about it as well.

Damaso Marte, with the talks expanding to include perhaps Bay and Snell.

The Bucs are pretty random and tough to deal with. They have apparently demanded Tabata for Marte, which is ridiculous but because of their randomness and financial issues, they may well give up Bay who struggled last season and makes up 1/7th of their payroll. Another left reliever Grabow was mentioned and he is arbitration eligible.

It also mentions Ian Snell but that must be in attempt to get one of the 3 starters which I would hope is a non starter.

Edit: this is probably sticky thread material my bad.

Starksfor3 · Post #2 » by **Starksfor3** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 2:23 pm

No way is this happening. Marte is good but Tabata should be able to net more in a deal.

Jitpal · Post #3 » by **Jitpal** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 4:02 pm

Interesting. I like the idea depending on who we have to give up. A healthy Bay balances out the L/R in the lineup but then we would have too many OFers. Unless Melky was part of the deal and then Damon would move back to CF. Matsui to DH and Bay in LF.

It's also interesting that the Pirates just released Jose Castillo, their starting 2nd baseman. I wonder if they were just clearing a roster spot for the rule V draft or if there is a serious deal brewing. Perhaps Betemit is part of it too? -Jitpal

34Celtic · Post #4 » by **34Celtic** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 4:33 pm

If we put Jason Bay in left field I might cry. He is not that good and his arm is worse than Damon's

Lconte17 · Post #5 » by **Lconte17** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 4:35 pm

hell id take Bay and flip him to teh indians, for the prospects the indians wanted to trade to pit

Post #6 » by **sully00** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 5:47 pm

I was thinking along these lines:

Tabata/Duncan (just a name and obviously this package is a little short)

for

Marte/Bay

Freeing up the Yanks to send Matsui, who may not be all that excited about being a DH, to the Giants in a package for some of their young pitching. We may also be able to convince the Giants to take the Giambino (and a truck load of cash) as well.

I am no expert on the Giants and what their plan is but their outfield and firstbase situation may struggle to combine for 20 HRs. Add those two bats to their pitching and they could win that incredibly weakass division.

34Celtic · Post #7 » by **34Celtic** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 5:50 pm

Why is everyone on Jason Bay's jock?

Post #8 » by **sully00** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 6:27 pm

34Celtic wrote:Why is everyone on Jason Bay's jock?

He is a buy low ball player. He makes short money in the real world and 1/7th of the Pirates payroll. He will be 29 years old and has .930 OPS with 30 home run power for his first 4 years until he stumbled last season.

Post #9 » by **PR07** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 7:15 pm

New York Trades:

Tabata, other mid-high prospects, and Hideki Matsui

Receives:

Marte, Snell, Bay

Pittsburgh Trades:

Marte, Snell, Bay

Receives:

Tabata, Noah Lowry, other NYY prospects, SF Prospects

SF Trades:

Noah Lowry, other prospects

SF Receives:

Hideki Matsui

34Celtic · Post #10 » by **34Celtic** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 8:00 pm

I'd rather Noah Lowry than Jason Bay and Marte

Fury · Post #11 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 8:19 pm

Lowry sucks. I rather have Bay and Marte.

Post #12 » by **HCYanks** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 8:37 pm

34Celtic wrote:I'd rather Noah Lowry than Jason Bay and Marte

Lowry had 87 walks and 87 strikeouts in 156 innings last year. That ERA of his was astronomically lucky. And he was having arm soreness issues through a good part of last season.

Not that Bay was any more impressive last year. But i'd still take a flyer on him if the Pirates are actually selling low.

VinnyTheMick · Post #13 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Thu Dec 6, 2007 10:00 pm

We should have never traded Marte in the first place :nonono:

Pugsley_2491 · Post #14 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Fri Dec 7, 2007 12:14 am

VinnyTheMick wrote:We should have never traded Marte in the first place

who'd we trade him for?

Post #15 » by **moocow007** » Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:14 am

Pugsley_2491 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

who'd we trade him for?

This poor chubby fellow...

Pugsley_2491 · Post #16 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:49 am

HAHAHA I FORGOT ABOUT HIM LOL

34Celtic · Post #17 » by **34Celtic** » Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:06 pm

Pugsley_2491 wrote:HAHAHA I FORGOT ABOUT HIM LOL

How? He's on our team right now, look at Wilson Betemit...he's a juiced up version of Enrique.

LaCosaNostra · Post #18 » by **LaCosaNostra** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:28 am

moocow007 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

This poor chubby fellow...

(picture)

Wasn't Wilson one of the original Ninja Turtles?

VinnyTheMick · Post #19 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:38 pm

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

How? He's on our team right now, look at Wilson Betemit...he's a juiced up version of Enrique.

Wilson > Enrique

34Celtic · Post #20 » by **34Celtic** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:20 pm

VinnyTheMick wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Wilson > Enrique

Wilson = the crap I just took