PG Knicks - Unserious

[nagawicka]

This team is clearly missing the heart and soul of the team.

Spoiler:

Geez, thought you were gonna go with trading Kareem Abdul-Jabbar the-heart-&-soul-of-the-MKE_Bucks-organization was the mistake, so now as collective punishment our only option and last best hope is trading G.

[nagawicka]

But but but, lets kick Thanasis and get some other useless 15th bench man that provides nothing, that sure will help.

1000% YES. Find any 15th bench man, be it the best 15th developmental prospect you can find, while you're at it sign the Jay Huffs you refused to even bring in, the Sam Merrills you couldn't be bothered to develop, the Javon Carters whose critical POA defense was replaced and never acknowledged in spite of the ongoing wailing and crying. Dumping Thanasis was years overdue. Sometimes it seeemed like he could physically do it, but is that really playing the game. Same holds true for G.

The point is that Thanasis being on the team didn't change anything in terms of performance eon the court while we lost a GREAT lockeroom guy that was visibly helping our team in the mental state.

15th man isnt doing anything in any contenders when they play with 8 man rotations in the playoffs.

Failing to use any slot to nab and train up any guy one notch better than 16th, whether he plays or not, is negligent as hell. It's GM malpractice. Cut off a couple toes, you got two feet. Telling yourself you need 'a locker room guy' is just telling on yourself, it's an admission giannis aint' one.

[chonestown]

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If the bucks are gonna half ass it, I'm not going to put in so much effort on my posts either.

Don't disrespect chones like this. Post is Life.

At times like these (losing to the Knicks in lopped-side fashion), it's wise to abide by the following guidance:

1) Posting doesn't come from hitting "submit;" it's the results of hours in the lab. Get back in the lab.
2) When at low energy, the elote corn chip dippers from Trader Joe's will revitalize you. Them shts is tasty.
3) Look, we've all hit a stumbling block when trying to compose Liam Robbins fan-fic set in the middle ages. Stay the course. Rome (Liam Robbins fan-fic set in the middle ages) wasn't built in a day.

[soxperry]

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That doesn't add up. Under what circumstances would he say that to a media member?

Both of our beat reporters are saying it was directed at another media member. Don't know what they may have did or said to set him off.

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That does nothing to persuade me.

Again, what could a media member do for him to say that?

[Matches Malone]

Jim and Eric are literally standing next to Giannis. I don't think they would have any reason to put out false reports that it was a media member and not a player.

[fan230]

With Bud, the locker room atmosphere was good. I think Doc has lost or almost lost the locker room, i.e., the players. After his time outs, he is rarely able to make tweaks which improve either the offense or the defense.

Bud was known for his ability to get the best out of his players not only with the Bucks but also in Atlanta.

We may want to find a doc replacement from the Popovich tree, someone similar to Bud or Atkinson. Perhaps a reader can suggest a name.

Even though Dame is a great offensive player, he is a mismatch with our team. He is a great long distance shooter but not a pg who makes others better. He has the ability to score points in a hurry but his play style is a complete mismatch with that of Giannis and that fact will not change.

We seriously need to trade Dame to get good players like Khris or even Jrue who fitted in perfectly with the genius of Giannis.

Dame is 34, his ability to score in bunches is exciting and will be attractive to many teams.

As a coach, Griff was like a square peg in a round hole. Dame is super talented but he is a misfit with the Bucks.

The camaraderie of Khris Jrue and Lopez with Giannis and expertly guided by Bud was the reason we won a championship after 50 years.

[DingusBojangles]

That doesn't add up. Under what circumstances would he say that to a media member?

Both of our beat reporters are saying it was directed at another media member. Don't know what they may have did or said to set him off.

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That does nothing to persuade me.

Again, what could a media member do for him to say that?

Lol not everything needs to be some grand conspiracy.

[MickeyDavis]

Jim and Eric are literally standing next to Giannis. I don't think they would have any reason to put out false reports that it was a media member and not a player.

Exactly. The NY media was there too. Does anyone think the NEW YORK media wouldn't report if Giannis was talking to a teammate? Of course they would.

Sometimes conspiracy theories are fun. Sometimes they are ridiculous.

[Magic Giannison]

1000% YES. Find any 15th bench man, be it the best 15th developmental prospect you can find, while you're at it sign the Jay Huffs you refused to even bring in, the Sam Merrills you couldn't be bothered to develop, the Javon Carters whose critical POA defense was replaced and never acknowledged in spite of the ongoing wailing and crying. Dumping Thanasis was years overdue. Sometimes it seeemed like he could physically do it, but is that really playing the game. Same holds true for G.

The point is that Thanasis being on the team didn't change anything in terms of performance eon the court while we lost a GREAT lockeroom guy that was visibly helping our team in the mental state.

15th man isnt doing anything in any contenders when they play with 8 man rotations in the playoffs.

Failing to use any slot to nab and train up any guy one notch better than 16th, whether he plays or not, is negligent as hell. It's GM malpractice. Cut off a couple toes, you got two feet. Telling yourself you need 'a locker room guy' is just telling on yourself, it's an admission giannis aint' one.

Yes because all the young we drafted in the past 11 years panned well ?

We literally developed 1 guy and traded hiss ass for Serge Ibaka's corpse.

Thanasis contribution to the team was undeniable, im not sure why is this even disputed when we have players themselves saying it....

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if giannis wants to be here then he needs to take the next step and lead the lockerroom and set the example on and off the floor. he holds that power. but hes going to have to be willing to wait out a deep reset with this roster.

thats all on him

I'd agree but we can tackle that after we figure out why there's no one to set an example for. There are no good examples that end in this team being a legitimate contender.

Their ability to be that has long passed.

man he can start by setting the example for himself. set 20 hard screens a game, man up defnsively the way he does the first 5 minutes of a dang game, put a body on people when the shot goes up, pass the ball quicker, be more vocal, and better body language ffs.

he can start with himself

[KidA24]

Reporter something like: "It sounds like you don't want to be in Milwaukee."

Giannis: ....

[theFireBlanket]

Reporter something like: "It sounds like you don't want to be in Milwaukee."

Giannis: ....

Get em GA! DID YOU WATCH MY MOVIE

*the Marvelous Journey

PLAYA? (check my French, Beach, ESP, extra P, make it spicy P).

[fansinceforever]

He wasn't talking to a teammate. If he was, that would be the only story in the NBA running for the next 5 days.

His frustration level is cause for concern enough.

[Dick Tate]

Thread recap: Giannis got drunk with power. Then the Org handed him the keys and he crashed the car.

[Matches Malone]

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[Bernman]

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This EXPOSES your "anti-Bobby" agenda. You're on Big O's list, for relaying facts the last 3 seasons that show he has a negative team impact. It's irrelevant. Just bad luck. The basketball gods are conspiring to make it look like d matters & long 2's aren't valuable.

[paulpressey25]

I just think a guy who is injured a lot at the end of the season, can't hit 3s, and can't hit free throws is hard to build around in today's NBA. I don't care what stat lines he puts up. Banging into 3 and 4 defenders every game all season takes a toll and once Giannis' athleticism is gone what do you have?

For example would you trade Giannis to the Pelicans for Ingram, Jones, Yves, all our draft picks back, and some of the Pels? Don't you think you could rebuild faster getting rid of Giannis for a huge haul then trying to make moves with Giannis being stuck at the 2nd apron? Is this a Herschel Walker type trade situation?

On one hand, anytime you trade a superstar you never come out ahead. Even though at the time you rationalize it like you did in the first paragraph above.

On the other hand, if Giannis wanted it, could be time to sell high. I just don’t particularly like the players you note above coming back. I want a Chet caliber player and picks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

When you're dealing with a franchise icon who's won a championship with you it's complicated and decisions aren't purely logical. If Giannis wants to stay then I don't think you trade him, regardless if it seems like the quickest rebuild path. But you do need to sit down with him and be honest about what the next couple years would look like if you end up having to do a little rebuild.

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[theFireBlanket]

When you're dealing with a franchise icon who's won a championship with you it's complicated and decisions aren't purely logical. If Giannis wants to stay then I don't think you trade him, regardless if it seems like the quickest rebuild path. But you do need to sit down with him and be honest about what the next couple years would look like if you end up having to do a little rebuild.

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The way Giannis won us that chip & bought into our city, you ride it out. Screw all this sell on him, he never sold us out.

[randy84]

I just think a guy who is injured a lot at the end of the season, can't hit 3s, and can't hit free throws is hard to build around in today's NBA. I don't care what stat lines he puts up. Banging into 3 and 4 defenders every game all season takes a toll and once Giannis' athleticism is gone what do you have?

For example would you trade Giannis to the Pelicans for Ingram, Jones, Yves, all our draft picks back, and some of the Pels? Don't you think you could rebuild faster getting rid of Giannis for a huge haul then trying to make moves with Giannis being stuck at the 2nd apron? Is this a Herschel Walker type trade situation?

On one hand, anytime you trade a superstar you never come out ahead. Even though at the time you rationalize it like you did in the first paragraph above.

On the other hand, if Giannis wanted it, could be time to sell high. I just don’t particularly like the players you note above coming back. I want a Chet caliber player and picks.

If you are OKC would you trade Chet for Giannis?