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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#81 » by durantbird » Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:24 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:Larry can't control himself around Derrick White. :lol:

I though I had a slight chance at getting him because LR would have to use a second rounder on him.

I underestimated the love.

I was afraid Larry would take Kidd but he ended up being skipped. Derrick White and George Hill were my backup plan
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Post#82 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:08 pm

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Larry_Russell wrote:I dont think I dont stand a chance in this one.

Was hoping for Porzingas and draymond for ky final 2 rounds of pairs...that might have let me be OK, but my teak, I thikk, is mid at best.

Steph Jimmy was a great pair to start with, but I would've definitely used the next pick on DRob personally


I wanted a floor spacer at center as that is recipe for winning.

Was trying to nab some good fitting pieces at reasonable fga, but got banged
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Post#83 » by Laimbeer » Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:41 pm

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wackbone wrote:Surrounding Rose/Kobe with shooting galore, as best as I can. Had no intention of picking Kobe, but as I said when I took him I know that if I didn't then Fade would have had Kobe+LeBron and would have had this locked up in Round 2. It's largely due to guys like me who made picks that were more on feel/vibes instead of what was best. Also in part because the Magic have so few guys to pair with the All-NBA 1st Lakers

I feel like that ship sailed with durantbird's first two pairs, whether or not I got Kobe.


This is Laker LeBron. A top ten player in today's league but getting this version and Kobe isn't game ending. DB has crazy offensive talent, but Dirk and Shaq is vulnerable defensively. Top contender, but I can see an argument.
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Post#84 » by wackbone » Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:51 pm

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Post#85 » by Laimbeer » Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:53 pm

There are two MVPish talents left I'm surprised to see on the board. I screwed up taking Jrue instead of just starting Caruso. Then I could have swung getting one of them to go along with KD/Embiid.
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Post#86 » by Laimbeer » Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:57 pm

Snakebites wrote:I almost took Nash/Bridges. The cost of Nets Bridges was tough to justify though. I also considered a different Maverick guard. I’d have been in dire straits FGA-wise. So I went with Harden and a cheaper wing defender.

Honestly I’ve been kind of directionless ever since I didn’t land Billups/Blazer player.

The vision was to create an upgraded version of the Pistons with Reggie in the Rip role and KG up front.

Not sure what the pivot even looks like now.


Bridges was expensive for that role and I was concerned about Nash defending so many good point guards in this one. Plus some people downgrade the Dallas version.
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Post#87 » by MadNESS » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:04 pm

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Post#88 » by Snakebites » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:27 pm

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Snakebites wrote:I almost took Nash/Bridges. The cost of Nets Bridges was tough to justify though. I also considered a different Maverick guard. I’d have been in dire straits FGA-wise. So I went with Harden and a cheaper wing defender.

Honestly I’ve been kind of directionless ever since I didn’t land Billups/Blazer player.

The vision was to create an upgraded version of the Pistons with Reggie in the Rip role and KG up front.

Not sure what the pivot even looks like now.


Bridges was expensive for that role and I was concerned about Nash defending so many good point guards in this one. Plus some people downgrade the Dallas version.

I think the idea is that you use Bridges in the POA defense role. But yeah.

I'll just go ahead and say it- I was also considering LUKA with Bridges. It wast just too expensive a combo though.
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Post#89 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:36 pm

Colour me shocked that the Knicks are still unused...
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Post#90 » by wackbone » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:46 pm

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Post#91 » by Snakebites » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:34 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Colour me shocked that the Knicks are still unused...

Ah yes. The "u" in color.

English is a strange language. Fun fact: in the USA at some point they also tried to get rid of the "i" in "friend". That one didn't take though.

As for the Knicks, there are a few interesting players there. The problem is they aren't THAT interesting and they're also linked to the Bulls who also have a pretty uninspiring 21st century player pool, and those few interesting ones they do have were naturally paired with Warriors.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#92 » by Snakebites » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:39 pm

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durantbird wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:I dont think I dont stand a chance in this one.

Was hoping for Porzingas and draymond for ky final 2 rounds of pairs...that might have let me be OK, but my teak, I thikk, is mid at best.

Steph Jimmy was a great pair to start with, but I would've definitely used the next pick on DRob personally


I wanted a floor spacer at center as that is recipe for winning.

Was trying to nab some good fitting pieces at reasonable fga, but got banged

I actually thought Kristaps would be the Celtic you'd reach for in round 2 if anything.

I thought about taking Bruce Bowen with Harden in round 2 in place of Green, as he does fit into my starting lineup better than Green does. Green is a better overall player though. Having to select a pair of starters with those last two picks presented a challenge though- it took a while to figure out the logistics of those last 2 picks.

In general this was a tough draft. There were players I considered at pick 2 who weren't taken until the end of the first round. There were about 6 or 7 different combos I considered with the second pick, which is never a position you want to be in for round one. There are also superstars I considered in round 2 who STILL haven't been taken and likely won't be, which makes me feel like I should have grabbed a pair of really solid supporting pieces and waited on an offensive engine.

Of course, that was the plan. I wanted to take Billups and either Rasheed or Pippen in round 2. But obviously that didn't work out.

I'm happy with my team but it isn't close to the one I originally set out to make.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#93 » by durantbird » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:01 pm

Snakebites wrote:A similar premise can be done with presidents/gms-

Anthony Parker- Magic/Raptors
Calvin Booth- Nuggets/Wizards
Trajan Langdon- Cavs/Pistons
Elton Brand- Clippers/Sixers
Pat Riley- Heat/Lakers
Sean Marks- Spurs/Nets
Mike Dunleavy Jr- Warriors/Bucks
Kevin Pritchard- Pacers/Celtics
Danny Ainge- Jazz/Suns
Landry Fields- Knicks/Hawks

This should be interesting as well. But like the current draft, it's set to be too deep, even with an 2000s threshold.

Just throwing an unusual idea out there - maybe use a timeframe of 80s + 10s and on (haven't checked the resulting pool thoroughly).
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Post#94 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:10 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:Colour me shocked that the Knicks are still unused...

Ah yes. The "u" in color.

English is a strange language. Fun fact: in the USA at some point they also tried to get rid of the "i" in "friend". That one didn't take though.


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Post#95 » by Snakebites » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:28 pm

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Snakebites wrote:A similar premise can be done with presidents/gms-

Anthony Parker- Magic/Raptors
Calvin Booth- Nuggets/Wizards
Trajan Langdon- Cavs/Pistons
Elton Brand- Clippers/Sixers
Pat Riley- Heat/Lakers
Sean Marks- Spurs/Nets
Mike Dunleavy Jr- Warriors/Bucks
Kevin Pritchard- Pacers/Celtics
Danny Ainge- Jazz/Suns
Landry Fields- Knicks/Hawks


This should be interesting as well. But like the current draft, it's set to be too deep, even with an 2000s threshold.

Just throwing an unusual idea out there - maybe use a timeframe of 80s + 10s and on (haven't checked the resulting pool thoroughly).


You may be able to swap out some of the deeper franchises too.

Lakers could easily be swapped for Rockets. Pritchard has options other than the Celtics too- Philly for instance. Taking one or two of those out changes the landscape a lot.
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Post#96 » by MadNESS » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:33 pm

Well I don’t have a weak bench in this one.
No “5th” starters either - 5 starting players who are all good. I was going for more of a balance than a couple superstars and role players. Think I have a strong 8.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#97 » by durantbird » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:35 pm

Snakebites wrote:
durantbird wrote:
Snakebites wrote:A similar premise can be done with presidents/gms-

Anthony Parker- Magic/Raptors
Calvin Booth- Nuggets/Wizards
Trajan Langdon- Cavs/Pistons
Elton Brand- Clippers/Sixers
Pat Riley- Heat/Lakers
Sean Marks- Spurs/Nets
Mike Dunleavy Jr- Warriors/Bucks
Kevin Pritchard- Pacers/Celtics
Danny Ainge- Jazz/Suns
Landry Fields- Knicks/Hawks


This should be interesting as well. But like the current draft, it's set to be too deep, even with an 2000s threshold.

Just throwing an unusual idea out there - maybe use a timeframe of 80s + 10s and on (haven't checked the resulting pool thoroughly).


You may be able to swap out some of the deeper franchises too.

Lakers could easily be swapped for Rockets. Pritchard has options other than the Celtics too- Philly for instance. Taking one or two of those out changes the landscape a lot.

Problem is I don't like inconsistent criteria. The criterion was using the franchise with most NBA appearances. I don't like swapping just a few of these to get a deeper or shallower pool.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#98 » by Laimbeer » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:46 pm

durantbird wrote:up.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#99 » by Snakebites » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:40 pm

Seeing some of these fourth round picks makes me, if nothing else, glad I had an early pick in that round. Still would have preferred a later draft position though.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Discussion 

Post#100 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:41 pm

Nash and Bridges was a nice round 3 pick.
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