Official Ochai Agbaji Thread - Welcome to Toronto, Ochai!

[gp2015]

Some of the comparisons I’m seeing are weird. He’s prototypically an sg in size so he’s not og anunoby. Pj Tucker is another weird comp. He’s also way more fluid with his movements than these guys, he’s got good body control and an ability to finish inside and has good athleticism. His 3 has improved. Someone mentioned Norman Powell in another thread, I think that’s the closest comparison right now. Doesn’t have the ability to create his own shot and handle the ball as much as norm, but everything else from the athleticism to the size is pretty spot on. I guess defensively he’s better.

Dort or Norm would be a better comparison IMO.

He's already much better than Tucker ever was offensively.

[MessiahUjiri]

Some of the comparisons I’m seeing are weird. He’s prototypically an sg in size so he’s not og anunoby. Pj Tucker is another weird comp. He’s also way more fluid with his movements than these guys, he’s got good body control and an ability to finish inside and has good athleticism. His 3 has improved. Someone mentioned Norman Powell in another thread, I think that’s the closest comparison right now. Doesn’t have the ability to create his own shot and handle the ball as much as norm, but everything else from the athleticism to the size is pretty spot on. I guess defensively he’s better.

Dort or Norm would be a better comparison IMO.

He's already much better than Tucker ever was offensively.

Agbaji is closer to Norm. Dort has such a football body that he’s a different prototype (like a Marcus Smart body).


He’s so athletic. I wish he could cut and attack the basket more, and not just settle for jumpers like Terrence Ross used to.

[gp2015]

Some of the comparisons I’m seeing are weird. He’s prototypically an sg in size so he’s not og anunoby. Pj Tucker is another weird comp. He’s also way more fluid with his movements than these guys, he’s got good body control and an ability to finish inside and has good athleticism. His 3 has improved. Someone mentioned Norman Powell in another thread, I think that’s the closest comparison right now. Doesn’t have the ability to create his own shot and handle the ball as much as norm, but everything else from the athleticism to the size is pretty spot on. I guess defensively he’s better.

Dort or Norm would be a better comparison IMO.

He's already much better than Tucker ever was offensively.

Agbaji is closer to Norm. Dort has such a football body that he’s a different prototype (like a Marcus Smart body).


He’s so athletic. I wish he could cut and attack the basket more, and not just settle for jumpers like Terrence Ross used to.

I definitely see him going to the basket more and finishing inside better than last season so maybe it's still developing.

Norm is better in that respect and had that as part of his game near the beginning.

[LoveMyRaps]

Something interesting to note...

Ochai in his last season at KU shot 41% from deep on 6.5 attempts per game
Meanwhile, Gradey in his last season at KU shot 40% from deep on 5.7 attempts per game.

[sidsid]

Dort or Norm would be a better comparison IMO.

He's already much better than Tucker ever was offensively.

Agbaji is closer to Norm. Dort has such a football body that he’s a different prototype (like a Marcus Smart body).

Norm is closer to RJ in terms of offense. Dort, like PJ, is short, but a SF style bricks*** house.

Ochai is firmly in the Raja Bell profile for bodies and game. If you need a Raps comp it's probably Danny Green or Mo Pete who always seemed a little small for a SF regardless of the height (similar to how Mikal Bridges is best defending guards regardless of what position you assign him).

He’s so athletic. I wish he could cut and attack the basket more, and not just settle for jumpers like Terrence Ross used to.

I definitely see him going to the basket more and finishing inside better than last season so maybe it's still developing.

Norm is better in that respect and had that as part of his game near the beginning.

[Los_29]

Don’t see similarities between Norm and Ochai. Norm can do more with the ball in his hands. Ochai has him beat defensively and seems to offer more in the way of passing and rebounding. That’s one thing that has really hurt Norm in his career.

[Psubs]

Don’t see similarities between Norm and Ochai. Norm can do more with the ball in his hands. Ochai has him beat defensively and seems to offer more in the way of passing and rebounding. That’s one thing that has really hurt Norm in his career.

Norm is strictly a SG while Ochai does SF things on offense and defense like you've mentioned, so he's a SG/SF.

[XTC]

I don't see the Norm comparisons. Norm showed the ability to create off the dribble from the get go, and he was a much better athlete.

I see shades of Danny Green/Trevor Ariza. Kid is going to make a living off catch & shoot 3's, and off ball cuts.

[Psubs]

I don't see the Norm comparisons. Norm showed the ability to create off the dribble from the get go, and he was a much better athlete.

I see shades of Danny Green/Trevor Ariza. Kid is going to make a living off catch & shoot 3's, and off ball cuts.

He's still only 24, so he has a couple years until his prime. With now being able to shoot 3's this summer really focuses on his handles.

[Indeed]

Don’t see similarities between Norm and Ochai. Norm can do more with the ball in his hands. Ochai has him beat defensively and seems to offer more in the way of passing and rebounding. That’s one thing that has really hurt Norm in his career.

Norm is strictly a SG while Ochai does SF things on offense and defense like you've mentioned, so he's a SG/SF.

Agbaji is undersize at SF. His measurement is pretty much the same as Powell, maybe an inch taller and 2 inches longer, which is still rather small.

He has the quickness, but may not have the quickness with the ball due to handling. And Powell might be the better shooter.
I might prefer Agbaji over Powell, but unlikely to be a core / starter, so I wonder his role with us in the future.

[YogurtProducer]

People are (rightfully) high on Dick... but Agbaji has made the strongest case to stay in the starting lineup when healthy.

I said it in pre-season, but one of RJ or Dick should be on the bench, and Agbaji should be the starter.

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[XTC]

Don’t see similarities between Norm and Ochai. Norm can do more with the ball in his hands. Ochai has him beat defensively and seems to offer more in the way of passing and rebounding. That’s one thing that has really hurt Norm in his career.

Norm is strictly a SG while Ochai does SF things on offense and defense like you've mentioned, so he's a SG/SF.

Agbaji is undersize at SF. His measurement is pretty much the same as Powell, maybe an inch taller and 2 inches longer, which is still rather small.

He has the quickness, but may not have the quickness with the ball due to handling. And Powell might be the better shooter.
I might prefer Agbaji over Powell, but unlikely to be a core / starter, so I wonder his role with us in the future.

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Powell was a natural scorer, and a wicked athlete coming into the NBA. Dude came into summer league and averaged 18 points on 44% shooting from 3. He cracked the rotation once he started focusing on defense. I don't see the comparision with the two.

[MEDIC]

Don’t see similarities between Norm and Ochai. Norm can do more with the ball in his hands. Ochai has him beat defensively and seems to offer more in the way of passing and rebounding. That’s one thing that has really hurt Norm in his career.

That's why I went with Dort. Great defender. Great athleticism. Can hit the 3, but is limited otherwise.

[HangTime]

Maybe a new version of Tony Allen.

Or a Mo Pete/Tony Allen Hybrid.

[Thaddy]

He should be a starter instead of Dick. We badly need defense. Otherwise we will continue being the worst defense in the NBA.

Dick improved on offense but his defense seems to be pretty much the same as last season. He gets bumped and isolated too much for a starter level player.

Dick's too small to guard bigs, too slow for guard, too weak for forwards. Where can we realistically put him so he isn't targeted?

[LoveMyRaps]

RJ and Gradey off the bench next season would be great for this team.

Quickley/Barrett
Bailey/Dick
Ochai/Walter
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Olynyk

That's a playoff team IMO.

[Tripod]

People are (rightfully) high on Dick... but Agbaji has made the strongest case to stay in the starting lineup when healthy.

I said it in pre-season, but one of RJ or Dick should be on the bench, and Agbaji should be the starter.

Plus it better distributes shot opportunities. Barnes usually comes out first, Gradey can go in. Gradey can still rack up points off the bench and get lots of minutes...Herro is an example.

But ultimately let's see how the season plays out and if we ever have a healthy lineup. Just keep developing and we can work things our later. Having "extra" starting level players would be a nice problem to have.

[YogurtProducer]

People are (rightfully) high on Dick... but Agbaji has made the strongest case to stay in the starting lineup when healthy.

I said it in pre-season, but one of RJ or Dick should be on the bench, and Agbaji should be the starter.

Plus it better distributes shot opportunities. Barnes usually comes out first, Gradey can go in. Gradey can still rack up points off the bench and get lots of minutes...Herro is an example.

But ultimately let's see how the season plays out and if we ever have a healthy lineup. Just keep developing and we can work things our later. Having "extra" starting level players would be a nice problem to have.

Herro is a great example.

[MEDIC]

He should be a starter instead of Dick. We badly need defense. Otherwise we will continue being the worst defense in the NBA.

Dick improved on offense but his defense seems to be pretty much the same as last season. He gets bumped and isolated too much for a starter level player.

Dick's too small to guard bigs, too slow for guard, too weak for forwards. Where can we realistically put him so he isn't targeted?

Totally agree with this. IQ, Dick & RJ just isn't a strong enough perimeter defense. Put Gradey in with Mitchell to help offset some.of the perimeter defense issues.

I think Ochai & Mitchell should tupically play opposite minutes from one another. Always have one.of them on the floor.