Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED
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fleet wrote:JockItch43 wrote:fleet wrote:As I see the last play again, did Odunze quit on that route? That was funky.
I’ve watched the replay about 10 times, and he 100% slowed down and it actually looks like the ball would have been right there if he didn’t. But not enough separation for it to be a for sure touchdown. Probably would have been tackled at the 1, which would have been an even more hilarious way to lose.
Correct me if I’m wrong, the Bears needed points on the play. A WR decelerating short of the end zone is not the definition of high football IQ….
Just another mystery on top of mysteries on that play.
I just watched a replay and I think he lost sight of the ball.
That's how it looked to me. If he did give up, that's obviously inexecusable, but it looked like he lost track of the ball.
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The national media is raining down on Flus and it's awful PR for the organization.
He has to be fired. Zero excuses to not fire him.
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Chi town wrote:Losers find ways to lose.
Winners find ways to win.
Flus is and has been a loser at HC. Like many he’s a solid DC but an awful HC.
I find it hard to call for firings anything I have a higher threshold to get me there (for record, I’ve been past that for 5 weeks haha). But also I have no problem calling for Flus to be fired, because I know he will (and should) be picked up by another org quickly. He has great qualities as a DC … calls good/great games (still some flaws we all know, but he coordinates top flight defenses overall), and I do think he connects with players in meaningful ways. But a HC he most certainly is not … and even if you’re a good guy, connect with players, as a HC you lose all of that when you start f’ing up in the HC role. He’s lost all that locker room stuff he mighta had before.
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This was just like the media storm around Nagy. Maybe not quite at that level? Getting there. Media aren’t as savagely going after Flus I guess, but one more of these, and they will.
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fleet wrote:This was just like the media storm around Nagy. Maybe not quite at that level? Getting there. Media aren’t as savagely going after Flus I guess, but one more of these, and they will.
The three heartbreaking losses,in a row, in the division, should be enough.
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If Im Warren Im getting rid of both Poles and Flus and wiping the slate clean
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TheGOATRises007 wrote:fleet wrote:JockItch43 wrote:
I’ve watched the replay about 10 times, and he 100% slowed down and it actually looks like the ball would have been right there if he didn’t. But not enough separation for it to be a for sure touchdown. Probably would have been tackled at the 1, which would have been an even more hilarious way to lose.
Correct me if I’m wrong, the Bears needed points on the play. A WR decelerating short of the end zone is not the definition of high football IQ….
Just another mystery on top of mysteries on that play.
I just watched a replay and I think he lost sight of the ball.
That's how it looked to me. If he did give up, that's obviously inexecusable, but it looked like he lost track of the ball.
Possible. Disturbing, but possible. Here’s another mystery. I want an FBI investigation of that drive.
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fleet wrote:TheGOATRises007 wrote:fleet wrote:Correct me if I’m wrong, the Bears needed points on the play. A WR decelerating short of the end zone is not the definition of high football IQ….
Just another mystery on top of mysteries on that play.
I just watched a replay and I think he lost sight of the ball.
That's how it looked to me. If he did give up, that's obviously inexecusable, but it looked like he lost track of the ball.
Possible. Disturbing, but possible. Here’s another mystery. I want an FBI investigation of that drive.
I can't wait to see Caleb with a competent HC and OL.
Some of the stuff I've seen this season is just insane.
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chitownsports4ever wrote:If Im Warren Im getting rid of both Poles and Flus and wiping the slate clean
I'd do that too I think, but Poles is safe another year.
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No you don't considering Flus was all but hired by the time Poles got the jobchitownsports4ever wrote:If Im Warren Im getting rid of both Poles and Flus and wiping the slate clean
Poles has done mostly good with some misses. No need to wipe it clean.
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Fans can be quick to blame coaches when results dont go their way regardless of the decision making process behind it, but at this point Eberflus will leave the NFL as one of the historically worst coaches in many key categories. There's just an overwhelming amount of evidence at this point (both subjective and objective) that points to him being an incompetent boob and it really makes me question the evaluation skills of someone (read: Ryan Poles) in the building with a front row seat to this and didnt recognize that the guy who looks like a duck and quacks like a duck is in fact a duck.
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I thought i read before we probably at best get 12. But now i wonder how far we might fall while still looking competitive lol
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nitetrain8603 wrote:No you don't considering Flus was all but hired by the time Poles got the jobchitownsports4ever wrote:If Im Warren Im getting rid of both Poles and Flus and wiping the slate clean
Poles has done mostly good with some misses. No need to wipe it clean.
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You wipe it clean because unless they told Poles he couldn't fire Eberflus in January its all on his lap because the risks were plainly laid out and he walked the organization right into this mess.
You don't get to come in with talk of doing things differently have a simple decision to ensure that history doesn't repeat itself but decide not to take it and then 11 months later when the situation has now turned into a PR disaster have expectations of sticking around because you've done some good too.
The only thing that should be able to save Poles job is if he was told he couldn't fire Eberflus at the end of last season if not the only way to send the message thats whats occurred not acceptable is to fire the two guys responsible
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Im so done with Eberflose that if Poles doesn’t fire him in the next 24 hours he can go too.
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You won't ever know if that was the case. His personnel moves overall have been a plus. His management of the cap has been a plus. His trades have been a plus.chitownsports4ever wrote:nitetrain8603 wrote:No you don't considering Flus was all but hired by the time Poles got the jobchitownsports4ever wrote:If Im Warren Im getting rid of both Poles and Flus and wiping the slate clean
Poles has done mostly good with some misses. No need to wipe it clean.
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You wipe it clean because unless they told Poles he couldn't fire Eberflus in January its all on his lap because the risks were plainly laid out and he walked the organization right into this mess.
You don't get to come in with talk of doing things differently have a simple decision to ensure that history doesn't repeat itself but decide not to take it and then 11 months later when the situation has now turned into a PR disaster have expectations of sticking around because you've done some good too.
The only thing that should be able to save Poles job is if he was told he couldn't fire Eberflus at the end of last season if not the only way to send the message thats whats occurred not acceptable is to fire the two guys responsible
His flaws have been the offensive line. If he keeps Everflus this off-season, yes it's a problem. He doesn't deserve to get fired without being able to pick his coach.
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nitetrain8603 wrote:You won't ever know if that was the case. His personnel moves overall have been a plus. His management of the cap has been a plus. His trades have been a plus.chitownsports4ever wrote:nitetrain8603 wrote:No you don't considering Flus was all but hired by the time Poles got the job
Poles has done mostly good with some misses. No need to wipe it clean.
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You wipe it clean because unless they told Poles he couldn't fire Eberflus in January its all on his lap because the risks were plainly laid out and he walked the organization right into this mess.
You don't get to come in with talk of doing things differently have a simple decision to ensure that history doesn't repeat itself but decide not to take it and then 11 months later when the situation has now turned into a PR disaster have expectations of sticking around because you've done some good too.
The only thing that should be able to save Poles job is if he was told he couldn't fire Eberflus at the end of last season if not the only way to send the message thats whats occurred not acceptable is to fire the two guys responsible
His flaws have been the offensive line. If he keeps Everflus this off-season, yes it's a problem. He doesn't deserve to get fired without being able to pick his coach.
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His chance to pick his coach was at the same time it was to pick his own QB ...last offseason .If he voluntarily bypassed on that opportunity than he takes ownership of Eberflus still being here and everything that comes with it.
What you are suggesting is that Warren should do the same thing as Poles which was take a half measure. Fire Eberflus and let Poles hire a new coach ?
Why would Warren risk it at this point ? Neither Poles or Eberflus are his guys and he wouldn't be putting himself in a position where his decision making would come into question .
The level of embarrassment the organization has suffered today has to have a response that goes beyond simply firing the coach because the coach has basically been bad the entire time so when a great opportunity to move on presented itself who made the decision to keep him ?
I present Exhibit A in the case of the People vs Ryan Poles
He knew what was at stake and took the risk and now he has to pay the price
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RG3 is your exhibit A?chitownsports4ever wrote:nitetrain8603 wrote:You won't ever know if that was the case. His personnel moves overall have been a plus. His management of the cap has been a plus. His trades have been a plus.chitownsports4ever wrote:
You wipe it clean because unless they told Poles he couldn't fire Eberflus in January its all on his lap because the risks were plainly laid out and he walked the organization right into this mess.
You don't get to come in with talk of doing things differently have a simple decision to ensure that history doesn't repeat itself but decide not to take it and then 11 months later when the situation has now turned into a PR disaster have expectations of sticking around because you've done some good too.
The only thing that should be able to save Poles job is if he was told he couldn't fire Eberflus at the end of last season if not the only way to send the message thats whats occurred not acceptable is to fire the two guys responsible
His flaws have been the offensive line. If he keeps Everflus this off-season, yes it's a problem. He doesn't deserve to get fired without being able to pick his coach.
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His chance to pick his coach was at the same time it was to pick his own QB ...last offseason .If he voluntarily bypassed on that opportunity than he takes ownership of Eberflus still being here and everything that comes with it.
What you are suggesting is that Warren should do the same thing as Poles which was take a half measure. Fire Eberflus and let Poles hire a new coach ?
Why would Warren risk it at this point ? Neither Poles or Eberflus are his guys and he wouldn't be putting himself in a position where his decision making would come into question .
The level of embarrassment the organization has suffered today has to have a response that goes beyond simply firing the coach because the coach has basically been bad the entire time so when a great opportunity to move on presented itself who made the decision to keep him ?
I present Exhibit A in the case of the People vs Ryan Poles
He knew what was at stake and took the risk and now he has to pay the price
Know what? I'll talk to you when cooler heads have prevailed.
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