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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1861 » by fleet » Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:33 pm

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You call TO to go over the game plan with your team, including your rookie QB who just got smashed. You can still do a short pass out of bounds to kick a FG or tell the team if it’s completed in bounds to hurry up and spike the ball.


Except it was like 3rd and 26 or something, so unless you pick up the first down, very unlikely, you can't spike the ball because it's 4th down.

Sack
Call the TO
Get the team back organized.
Give the offense the situation and plan...whatever you're gonna do on 3rd but comes up short? Get the FG unit on sideline and ready to rush out there. You make it on 3rd and a mile? You tell them to clock the ball.

This is what should have happened.

If saving a TO, the plan looks as if it may have been to run the draw, and follow that up with something that tried to get out of bounds. But you got sacked. Plan was ****. Burn the time out. Regroup and readjust.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1862 » by Almost Retired » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:25 pm

Despite where we are now and what has happened the Bears job is going to be the best opening for an aspiring Head coach. So many pieces are in place. With a decent HC we're already a 10-7 team at least. We've got a franchise QB still in development and 3 high Draft choices in 2025 to improve the two lines. All the other teams that have or are going to fire coaches are more of a mess. So we're going to be an attractive suitor. For one I hope the Bears don't try to take the cheap way out. Go after Ben Johnson. Meet his demands within reason. Let him choose his staff and go from there. Give him Draft input. He knows what he'll need to succeed. You have to love how he coordinated the run game. He can do the same for us. If he can turn Goff into a top 10 QB imagine what he can do for Caleb.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1863 » by Charlesareed » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:56 pm

Poles has 1 chance to make this right come this offseason hire the coach of the future Ben johnson I hope draft a edge & OL help sign OL players in the offseason sign a kicker and make the playoffs next season
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1864 » by biggestbullsfan » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:31 pm

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Post#1865 » by biggestbullsfan » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:33 pm

I like the idea of Ben Johnson, but we also have to be open minded. He could be the offensive version of Flus. We don’t know how he manages games or if he can lead a locker room. They have to be right about this choice. I’m not Ben Johnson or bust. Just want the right person.
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Post#1866 » by CROBulls » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:38 pm

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If this is true we still might have GM on our hand. But Poles need to go all out in offseason. Go get best candidate for coach, get edge rusher and center in FA. Improve O-line. I would consider trading maybe few of our war chest picks for immediate player upgrade. Because at some point you need to take advantage of having QB on rookie deal.

We finally have franchise QB. Let start something nice.

EDIT: I just realized as I write this we discussed exact same thing we need to do in last offseason. And Poles kept Flus, and didnt improve O-line :lol:
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1867 » by JockItch43 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:48 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:I like the idea of Ben Johnson, but we also have to be open minded. He could be the offensive version of Flus. We don’t know how he manages games or if he can lead a locker room. They have to be right about this choice. I’m not Ben Johnson or bust. Just want the right person.


100% agreed. Going after the next hot coordinator isn’t what this team needs. This team needs a leader of men and a real culture setter way more than some great players caller. If Johnson is that, great. If not, I’d strongly consider another option. Look at Detroit beyond Ben Johnson, was Dan Campbell regarded as some kind of playcalling guru? That is the type of coach this talented but highly undisciplined and dysfunctional team needs.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1868 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:01 pm

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biggestbullsfan wrote:I like the idea of Ben Johnson, but we also have to be open minded. He could be the offensive version of Flus. We don’t know how he manages games or if he can lead a locker room. They have to be right about this choice. I’m not Ben Johnson or bust. Just want the right person.


100% agreed. Going after the next hot coordinator isn’t what this team needs. This team needs a leader of men and a real culture setter way more than some great players caller. If Johnson is that, great. If not, I’d strongly consider another option. Look at Detroit beyond Ben Johnson, was Dan Campbell regarded as some kind of playcalling guru? That is the type of coach this talented but highly undisciplined and dysfunctional team needs.


The names I've heard mentioned so far are: OC's of the Lions (Johnson), Ravens (Moncken), Bills, Bucs, the DC of the Lions, Belichick, and Tomas Brown.

I agree that you have to make sure whoever you pick has what it takes to be HC, and not just a great coordinator. Someone who has proven HC record would be nice, but those guys are either already coaching, or are on the sidelines for a reason. Pete Carroll comes to mind, but he's a little long in the tooth. Belichick would be a horrible mistake, IMO. Ditto Gruden. What's Ditka doing these days? j/k...
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1869 » by nitetrain8603 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:10 pm

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nitetrain8603 wrote:Peo9le are forgetting that last part. No one thought Eberflus was absolutely an issue last year. Some, wanted an upgrade but I dint remember anyone blinking much of an eye last off-season because Getsy was gone and so was Fields.


I don't know what the consensus opinion on Eberflus was last year, but many people wanted him gone before the season started and wanted to start with a clean slate and better coach with Caleb.

For sure. Many people were definitely concerned at the time that Poles was screwing this up, and turns out, Poles did screw it up. Some of them are TYSing on Twitter :D
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This hire makes or breaks Poles

Yes. For the Bears though, risky to let Poles make the call after all that’s happened. A Thomas Brown immediately becoming wildly successful enough to be retained is the only person able to pull Poles’ berries out of the fire as far as making Caleb’s development less difficult than it ever needed to be.
First don't quote RG3 of you want a serious reply. Guy admits to doing hot takes just for ratings.

Secondly, Silvy is wishy washy and always uses hindsight. You call it out on it, then he puts his hands behind his back and says "well they are paid to know better, not me"

He only wanted them to interview Harbaugh. And you're going to find out keeping eberflus was George.

There it is two posts up.

In addition to all of that, Silvy always talks a out doing it the right way. The upper management guys shouldn't meddle. They let Eberflus hire his staff, and now they put the blood on Poles' hands?

No, Poles has done am exceptional job with the constraints of a Bears ownership. He's had his misses but he's had a lot of makes. He needs to get the Oline setup and another pass rusher. That's achievable this offseason.

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Post#1870 » by molepharmer » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:15 pm

If anybody noticed, the Raiders showed another unusual way to screw up a potential last second FG attempt. Can't say I'd ever seen that one before.

Some D-linemen on display today.... 11:00 am Michigan (Graham and Grant), Ohio St (Williams), Tenn (Pearce), 2:30 pm Penn St (Carter) and 7:30 pm Texas A&M (Scourton)
TGibson (1/28/17); "..."a 4 or 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 for drama"...What's the worst? "...yelling matches with Thibs, everybody is just going crazy and I'm just sitting there...like, 'Don't call my name please..."
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1871 » by nitetrain8603 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:38 pm

molepharmer wrote:If anybody noticed, the Raiders showed another unusual way to screw up a potential last second FG attempt. Can't say I'd ever seen that one before.

Some D-linemen on display today.... 11:00 am Michigan (Graham and Grant), Ohio St (Williams), Tenn (Pearce), 2:30 pm Penn St (Carter) and 7:30 pm Texas A&M (Scourton)
Don't want a lineman. Want all OL as that presents your biggest ROI

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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1872 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:40 pm

It seems like our offseason plan should be pretty simple- get an EDGE and at least two offensive lineman. If we do that, we should be in great shape. We could easily be 8-4, even 9-3 right now. We have the talent. Just a few holes to fill, and then start reinforcing areas that are a little thin- DT, secondary, linebacker. Should all be very doable this offseason.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1873 » by molepharmer » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:51 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
molepharmer wrote:If anybody noticed, the Raiders showed another unusual way to screw up a potential last second FG attempt. Can't say I'd ever seen that one before.

Some D-linemen on display today.... 11:00 am Michigan (Graham and Grant), Ohio St (Williams), Tenn (Pearce), 2:30 pm Penn St (Carter) and 7:30 pm Texas A&M (Scourton)
Don't want a lineman. Want all OL as that presents your biggest ROI

Would tend to agree on priority for wanting O-line help, but it's damn near impossible to get a good idea on their talent level from watching a game on TV. Much easier to see potential difference makers on the d-line.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1874 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:04 pm

molepharmer wrote:
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molepharmer wrote:If anybody noticed, the Raiders showed another unusual way to screw up a potential last second FG attempt. Can't say I'd ever seen that one before.

Some D-linemen on display today.... 11:00 am Michigan (Graham and Grant), Ohio St (Williams), Tenn (Pearce), 2:30 pm Penn St (Carter) and 7:30 pm Texas A&M (Scourton)
Don't want a lineman. Want all OL as that presents your biggest ROI

Would tend to agree on priority for wanting O-line help, but it's damn near impossible to get a good idea on their talent level from watching a game on TV. Much easier to see potential difference makers on the d-line.


Our pass rush is anemic, and we're getting killed by the run with Billings out. I'm leaning towards using our first round pick on someone like Nic Scourton or Mikel Williams, and then our two seconds on IOL. Plan B would use the FRP on a tackle, kick Braxton inside, and then use the seconds on an EDGE/IOL.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1875 » by Mindcrime » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:44 pm

I'll go a little day dreaming and imaggine the following, we beat the 49'ers gaining some dignity and team spirit. SF goes real bravado mode after they miss the palyoffs and fire or make Shanahan resign while cutting Deebo because of cap/washed issues. Poles scrubs his chin saying "I'm gonna think it through" and we profit on both of them. Sounds good?
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1876 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:56 pm

Oh my gosh, MI just threw away a chance to upset OSU.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1877 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:58 pm

Mindcrime wrote:I'll go a little day dreaming and imaggine the following, we beat the 49'ers gaining some dignity and team spirit. SF goes real bravado mode after they miss the palyoffs and fire or make Shanahan resign while cutting Deebo because of cap/washed issues. Poles scrubs his chin saying "I'm gonna think it through" and we profit on both of them. Sounds good?


There are a growing number of fans out here (I'm in SF) that do want Shanahan fired. Which is idiotic to even contemplate but that's fans for ya.
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Post#1878 » by fleet » Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:09 pm

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Everyone that has Ben Johnson and Shanahan et al in Chicago already should realize who signs the checks in Chicago. The likeliest, most reasonable outcome may be the cheapest reasonable option.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1879 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:31 pm

According to Brad Biggs, the Bears will be willing to pay for the right HC.
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Re: Bears 8.0: Matt Eberflus FIRED 

Post#1880 » by Howling Mad » Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:33 pm

fleet wrote:who signs the checks in Chicago


This is the reason why this organization has failed dozens of QBs; why coaches aren't fired when they should be; why team Presidents prioritize profit over football acumen; and why big name-bigger personality head coaches aren't brought into the building.

The biggest investment we can make for Caleb is a HC. The price shouldn't matter cause you have a rookie salary window and a healthy team cap to execute it now. If we pass on the best coach to hire the "right" coach, we won't have that opportunity in a few years when the "right" coach is fired again.

If it works out, the investment pays for itself in the next 3 years with playoff games etc, but the McBotch family will see it differently cause that's what you get with the only majority owner in the NFL not to have another primary business still relying on the failed logic profit over performance. Dumb, cause those two things go hand in hand. Topping it off with the fact that they are the original family of the founding Father of the league and are able to use excuses like "tradition" to slide by any accountability. But hey, them '85 Bears were great, weren't they. :roll:

We can either go with the Lexus and pay more but drive it for 20 years or we can go with a Hyundai Genesis painfully maintaining it with a revolving door of assistant coaches eventually leading to a new car in 5 years.

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