Nineties Players Redux Draft - Discussion

[MadNESS]

I vote we use AI again

Haha no thanks 174/240 mins went to SGA, Isaac, Mobley and Adebayo, Ingles and thought I had a perimeter weakness. I don't think it took into consideration positional versatility/switchability.

Yeah, every now and again the AI just came out with some wild takes.

I've heard the argument that sometimes people have wild takes too, but the AI is the ONLY vote here.

There’s some wild takes by voters as well

[Snakebites]

Haha no thanks 174/240 mins went to SGA, Isaac, Mobley and Adebayo, Ingles and thought I had a perimeter weakness. I don't think it took into consideration positional versatility/switchability.

Yeah, every now and again the AI just came out with some wild takes.

I've heard the argument that sometimes people have wild takes too, but the AI is the ONLY vote here.

There’s some wild takes by voters as well

There are, but when that happens it's only one vote. Not the whole ballgame.

[DCasey91]

Question for the judging/voting are we going just by regular season, regular season + playoffs or more playoffs orientated when evaluation of individual players

I say this because I have movers or shakers depending on criteria on my list. 90's have a list of guys personally that does sway up or down

We're voting as if there's a playoff series between the two teams, so players with stronger postseason track records will generally get a bump.

Sweet thanks I figured that, as much as I like AI I do prefer general voting.

[Snakebites]

Question for the judging/voting are we going just by regular season, regular season + playoffs or more playoffs orientated when evaluation of individual players

I say this because I have movers or shakers depending on criteria on my list. 90's have a list of guys personally that does sway up or down

We're voting as if there's a playoff series between the two teams, so players with stronger postseason track records will generally get a bump.

It's up to the individual though. Some people factor playoff performance in a great deal, some people don't.

Others (especially with star players) argue that a player will perform better if surrounded by better players. Guys like James Harden and Joel Embiid probably don't turn into Michael Jordan with more help, but I'd argue that without defenses keying into them on every play they'd probably do better. How much better is anyone's guess.

[DCasey91]

Question for the judging/voting are we going just by regular season, regular season + playoffs or more playoffs orientated when evaluation of individual players

I say this because I have movers or shakers depending on criteria on my list. 90's have a list of guys personally that does sway up or down

We're voting as if there's a playoff series between the two teams, so players with stronger postseason track records will generally get a bump.

It's up to the individual though. Some people factor playoff performance in a great deal, some people don't.

Others (especially with star players) argue that a player will perform better if surrounded by better players. Guys like James Harden and Joel Embiid probably don't turn into Michael Jordan with more help, but I'd argue that without defenses keying into them on every play they'd probably do better. How much better is anyone's guess.

Yeah it's rudimentary as it is a 7 game series when deciding it's why I've already bumped up Reggie/Dirk and a couple others while shifting some down

I know abosolutes vs what ifs and matchups discussion debated etc.

Like for example DROB over Shaq in the regular or for preference but as the seven game match there are 90's guys that I'm not quite as comfortable with bringing in.

[Snakebites]

We're voting as if there's a playoff series between the two teams, so players with stronger postseason track records will generally get a bump.

It's up to the individual though. Some people factor playoff performance in a great deal, some people don't.

Others (especially with star players) argue that a player will perform better if surrounded by better players. Guys like James Harden and Joel Embiid probably don't turn into Michael Jordan with more help, but I'd argue that without defenses keying into them on every play they'd probably do better. How much better is anyone's guess.

Yeah it's rudimentary as it is a 7 game series when deciding it's why I've already bumped up Reggie/Dirk and a couple others while shifting some down

I know abosolutes vs what ifs and matchups discussion debated etc.

Like for example DROB over Shaq in the regular or for preference but as the seven game match there are 90's guys that I'm not quite as comfortable with bringing in.

It also depends on who they're paired with.

Give DRob an elite P/R ball handler to pair with and I think they give Shaq fits all series long. Shaq's one of those guys with clear strengths and clear weaknesses.

[Larry_Russell]

It's up to the individual though. Some people factor playoff performance in a great deal, some people don't.

Others (especially with star players) argue that a player will perform better if surrounded by better players. Guys like James Harden and Joel Embiid probably don't turn into Michael Jordan with more help, but I'd argue that without defenses keying into them on every play they'd probably do better. How much better is anyone's guess.

Yeah it's rudimentary as it is a 7 game series when deciding it's why I've already bumped up Reggie/Dirk and a couple others while shifting some down

I know abosolutes vs what ifs and matchups discussion debated etc.

Like for example DROB over Shaq in the regular or for preference but as the seven game match there are 90's guys that I'm not quite as comfortable with bringing in.

It also depends on who they're paired with.

Give DRob an elite P/R ball handler to pair with and I think they give Shaq fits all series long. Shaq's one of those guys with clear strengths and clear weaknesses.

But drob has playoff performance issues historically and never got his cherry popped until timmy, manu and parker carried him.

[Snakebites]

Yeah it's rudimentary as it is a 7 game series when deciding it's why I've already bumped up Reggie/Dirk and a couple others while shifting some down

I know abosolutes vs what ifs and matchups discussion debated etc.

Like for example DROB over Shaq in the regular or for preference but as the seven game match there are 90's guys that I'm not quite as comfortable with bringing in.

It also depends on who they're paired with.

Give DRob an elite P/R ball handler to pair with and I think they give Shaq fits all series long. Shaq's one of those guys with clear strengths and clear weaknesses.

But drob has playoff performance issues historically and never got his cherry popped until timmy, manu and parker carried him.

He was miscast as a floor raising ball dominant guy- his skills were as a roll man. Think more AD and less Hakeem.

[durantbird]

Draft order

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Snakebites
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Dr Positivity
wackbone
DCasey91
MadNess
durantbird
Stan
Fadeaway_J

Timestamp: 2024-12-02 11:50:44 UTC

[durantbird]

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Up first. Clock starts 9am EDT tomorrow.

[Larry_Russell]

top 3 pick is a great starting point for this draft.

I know who I want to build around, but also know who I am most likely to be building around.

And I am OK with both.

[DCasey91]

So many great players to build around with vastly different setups for syngery too.

I wanna see Point Jordan coz that's the bees knees lmao

[Larry_Russell]

So many great players to build around with vastly different setups for syngery too.

I wanna see Point Jordan coz that's the bees knees lmao

His numbers as a PG were out of this world. There was a learning curve he went through. but.

30.4 points, 10.7 assists, 9.2 rebounds, and 2.4 steals in 39.8 minutes over 24 games.

10 triple doubles in 11 games.

Small sample size though

[lilroddyb]

Ok

Up

[Larry_Russell]

Ok

Up

you mother ****.

I thought For sure Bird would be there at 3.

[lilroddyb]

Sorry about that haha

Didn't want to build around certain bulls player

[Larry_Russell]

Sorry about that haha

Didn't want to build around certain bulls player

I kind of do this draft.

[Fadeaway_J]

Not sure I love the 10th pick here.

[Snakebites]

top 3 pick is a great starting point for this draft.

I know who I want to build around, but also know who I am most likely to be building around.

And I am OK with both.

Up

And I was taking Bird at two- that was the plan. So take solace in the fact that you never had a chance at him.

[DCasey91]

So many great players to build around with vastly different setups for syngery too.

I wanna see Point Jordan coz that's the bees knees lmao

His numbers as a PG were out of this world. There was a learning curve he went through. but.


30.4 points, 10.7 assists, 9.2 rebounds, and 2.4 steals in 39.8 minutes over 24 games.

10 triple doubles in 11 games.

Small sample size though

That's why 91 Bulls is my favourite iteration out of the bunch. He was passing that thang like a mad man, Jordan to Pax or Pax to Jordan was straight $$$.