Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[Spree2Houston]

Bridges knows he’s going to play heavy mins and wants to pace himself so he doesn’t hurt himself and keeps his Ironman streak going. Or he’s playing with dead legs and can’t get any lift on his shots.

[spree2kawhi]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278231/Jazz-Looking-To-Trade-Veterans-Before-Deadline

Sexton and Kessler (+fillers) for Robinson, Achiuwa, Dadiet, Kolek and picks, please.

[The KnicksFix]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278231/Jazz-Looking-To-Trade-Veterans-Before-Deadline

Sexton and Kessler (+fillers) for Robinson, Achiuwa, Dadiet, Kolek and picks, please.

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

[spree2kawhi]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278231/Jazz-Looking-To-Trade-Veterans-Before-Deadline

Sexton and Kessler (+fillers) for Robinson, Achiuwa, Dadiet, Kolek and picks, please.

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

You’d be getting the same number of players back per league rules. Bench would even be a lot better afterwards: Sexton, Deuce, Hart, Sims, Toppin, Hukporti and Payne. You want to keep Kolek and Dadiet over a player like Sexton?

[3toheadmelo]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278231/Jazz-Looking-To-Trade-Veterans-Before-Deadline

Sexton and Kessler (+fillers) for Robinson, Achiuwa, Dadiet, Kolek and picks, please.

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

[aggo]

I would do the Walker Kessler trade


not the one listed above,

but I would be willing to give or swap assets.


the reasoning is fairly simple: hes 23.


we're gonna find out at the end of the season whether we like it or not (bc kat is also going to be 30+ soon and thats when defensive stats begin to decline) that he's not a 5.


itll probably need to be a 3 team deal where we give mitch to a team under the cap.

[sol537]

I'd trade Mitch + scraps (ie Rokas?) for Isaiah Stewart. That would give us three bigs that can potentially play next to KAT at the "5" so KAT could slide to the "4" at times... all three guys (Stewart, Precious, Sims) provide elite rim protection, can trap and recover on the perimeter, and are solid per minute rebounders... all staples of a Thibs' defense. KAT showed he could defend at the "4" when he played the Suns last season and the Nuggets.

[spree2kawhi]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278231/Jazz-Looking-To-Trade-Veterans-Before-Deadline

Sexton and Kessler (+fillers) for Robinson, Achiuwa, Dadiet, Kolek and picks, please.

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

And out come the trolls…

I have been on quite a nice run for someone like you to come at me like that. You’ve embarrassed yourself more than enough already. I’ve literally talked about trading Barrett for OG or Siakam months before before it happened, said it was time to make the Bridges trade literally the night before it happened and suggested Towns for this bum Randle months in advance too, starting at the end of 2023 and facing terrible backlash from clueless clowns all the while, remember? I can’t be that far off… meanwhile you look like a fool since we got Towns for that bum ass chucker because you’re such a sore loser in these discussions and you still fail to accept any defeat. Leon Rose obviously would approve of some of these ideas many posters have discussed here, so how come he hasn’t signed DSJ for more depth or traded for Zach LaVine yet? hm unpopular opinion, I guess…

I proposed another good deal right there, you had better hope we really can’t get Kessler now. It looks like we can’t, I’m not even arguing that. For the record, it is very likely we can’t get anything done at the deadline. But Sexton certainly is available. Mitch, Achiuwa and change for Kessler and Sexton would be an incredible move regardless of what you say and I honestly couldn’t care less about Dadiet or Kolek or your opinion in such a scenario. When was the last time you got anything right anyway? You are literally always wrong You wanted to trade Hart and Bridges for LaVine yesterday… I know my stuff. Can’t say the same about every empty calories volume poster on this board.

[spree2kawhi]

I'd trade Mitch + scraps (ie Rokas?) for Isaiah Stewart. That would give us three bigs that can potentially play next to KAT at the "5" so KAT could slide to the "4" at times... all three guys (Stewart, Precious, Sims) provide elite rim protection, can trap and recover on the perimeter, and are solid per minute rebounders... all staples of a Thibs' defense. KAT showed he could defend at the "4" when he played the Suns last season and the Nuggets.

These are the names really…. Kessler, Poeltl, Stewart… or Mitchell Robinson tbh… one can only hope.

[3toheadmelo]

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

And out come the trolls…

I have been on quite a nice run for someone like you to come at me like that. You’ve embarrassed yourself more than enough already. I’ve literally talked about trading Barrett for OG or Siakam months before before it happened, said it was time to make the Bridges trade literally the night before it happened and suggested Towns for this bum Randle months in advance too, starting at the end of 2023 and facing terrible backlash from clueless clowns all the while, remember? I can’t be that far off… meanwhile you look like a fool since we got Towns for that bum ass chucker because you’re such a sore loser in these discussions and you still fail to accept any defeat. Leon Rose obviously would approve of some of these ideas many posters have discussed here, so how come he hasn’t signed DSJ for more depth or traded for Zach LaVine yet? hm unpopular opinion, I guess…

I proposed another good deal right there, you had better hope we really can’t get Kessler now. It looks like we can’t, I’m not even arguing that. For the record, it is very likely we can’t get anything done at the deadline. But Sexton certainly is available. Mitch, Achiuwa and change for Kessler and Sexton would be an incredible move regardless of what you say and I honestly couldn’t care less about Dadiet or Kolek or your opinion in such a scenario. When was the last time you got anything right anyway? You are literally always wrong You wanted to trade Hart and Bridges for LaVine yesterday… I know my stuff. Can’t say the same about every empty calories volume poster on this board.

[spree2kawhi]

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

And out come the trolls…

I have been on quite a nice run for someone like you to come at me like that. You’ve embarrassed yourself more than enough already. I’ve literally talked about trading Barrett for OG or Siakam months before before it happened, said it was time to make the Bridges trade literally the night before it happened and suggested Towns for this bum Randle months in advance too, starting at the end of 2023 and facing terrible backlash from clueless clowns all the while, remember? I can’t be that far off… meanwhile you look like a fool since we got Towns for that bum ass chucker because you’re such a sore loser in these discussions and you still fail to accept any defeat. Leon Rose obviously would approve of some of these ideas many posters have discussed here, so how come he hasn’t signed DSJ for more depth or traded for Zach LaVine yet? hm unpopular opinion, I guess…

I proposed another good deal right there, you had better hope we really can’t get Kessler now. It looks like we can’t, I’m not even arguing that. For the record, it is very likely we can’t get anything done at the deadline. But Sexton certainly is available. Mitch, Achiuwa and change for Kessler and Sexton would be an incredible move regardless of what you say and I honestly couldn’t care less about Dadiet or Kolek or your opinion in such a scenario. When was the last time you got anything right anyway? You are literally always wrong You wanted to trade Hart and Bridges for LaVine yesterday… I know my stuff. Can’t say the same about every empty calories volume poster on this board.

Good for you.

[The KnicksFix]

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

And out come the trolls…

I have been on quite a nice run for someone like you to come at me like that. You’ve embarrassed yourself more than enough already. I’ve literally talked about trading Barrett for OG or Siakam months before before it happened, said it was time to make the Bridges trade literally the night before it happened and suggested Towns for this bum Randle months in advance too, starting at the end of 2023 and facing terrible backlash from clueless clowns all the while, remember? I can’t be that far off… meanwhile you look like a fool since we got Towns for that bum ass chucker because you’re such a sore loser in these discussions and you still fail to accept any defeat. Leon Rose obviously would approve of some of these ideas many posters have discussed here, so how come he hasn’t signed DSJ for more depth or traded for Zach LaVine yet? hm unpopular opinion, I guess…

I proposed another good deal right there, you had better hope we really can’t get Kessler now. It looks like we can’t, I’m not even arguing that. For the record, it is very likely we can’t get anything done at the deadline. But Sexton certainly is available. Mitch, Achiuwa and change for Kessler and Sexton would be an incredible move regardless of what you say and I honestly couldn’t care less about Dadiet or Kolek or your opinion in such a scenario. When was the last time you got anything right anyway? You are literally always wrong You wanted to trade Hart and Bridges for LaVine yesterday… I know my stuff. Can’t say the same about every empty calories volume poster on this board.

True, very true, the only thing I’m worried about if we let both Precious and Mitch go in a deal, is that we are losing two bigs, one of which can play the 4. If we get sexton back in a deal we now have a glut at guard on the bench, unless we then flip him later too

[sol537]

Sexton takes away from Deuce and Payne... seems duplicative. I like Kessler, though, but Ainge isn't reasonable as a trade partner.

Mitch for Beef Stew (DET) could make more sense if DET has any interest...

In the end, we'll probably see how things go with Mitch and Precious back before we tinker.

[Besart19]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278231/Jazz-Looking-To-Trade-Veterans-Before-Deadline

Sexton and Kessler (+fillers) for Robinson, Achiuwa, Dadiet, Kolek and picks, please.

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

with Mikal trade now we cant draft Kiyan unless a pick conveys buts its pretty improbable

we had a chance for a Melo 2.0 with this squad

[Besart19]

I would do the Walker Kessler trade


not the one listed above,

but I would be willing to give or swap assets.


the reasoning is fairly simple: hes 23.


we're gonna find out at the end of the season whether we like it or not (bc kat is also going to be 30+ soon and thats when defensive stats begin to decline) that he's not a 5.


itll probably need to be a 3 team deal where we give mitch to a team under the cap.

80-90% of the time Tim Duncan played alongside another center… and even in his last years… so yeah we probanly should project Towns as our PF for a decade from now

Kessler
Towns
Anunoby
Bridges (Kiyan)
Brunson

[The KnicksFix]

gaahhhdamn, we just gon empty the bench like that?
Mans traded everyone on the bench except toppin, deuce, cam

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

with Mikal trade now we cant draft Kiyan unless a pick conveys buts its pretty improbable

we had a chance for a Melo 2.0 with this squad

After he finishes his first year at Syracuse, he will enter the draft in 2026
We own our 2026 pick, we did not give that up in the draft, therefore we can draft him that year if he’s available

[Besart19]

Thank god hes not running the Knicks

with Mikal trade now we cant draft Kiyan unless a pick conveys buts its pretty improbable

we had a chance for a Melo 2.0 with this squad

After he finishes his first year at Syracuse, he will enter the draft in 2026
We own our 2026 pick, we did not give that up in the draft, therefore we can draft him that year if he’s available

he will finish his first year in 2025

[The KnicksFix]

with Mikal trade now we cant draft Kiyan unless a pick conveys buts its pretty improbable

we had a chance for a Melo 2.0 with this squad

After he finishes his first year at Syracuse, he will enter the draft in 2026
We own our 2026 pick, we did not give that up in the draft, therefore we can draft him that year if he’s available

he will finish his first year in 2025

Huh? He is a Senior in high school now. He can’t finish his first year at Syracuse by June. He graduates high school in June 2025, he then starts playing at Syracuse next fall (Fall 2025) and will leave after one year at Syracuse (if he’s one and done which he most likely will be), entering the 2026 draft

[spree2kawhi]

After he finishes his first year at Syracuse, he will enter the draft in 2026
We own our 2026 pick, we did not give that up in the draft, therefore we can draft him that year if he’s available

he will finish his first year in 2025

Huh? He is a Senior in high school now. He can’t finish his first year at Syracuse by June. He graduates high school in June 2025, he then starts playing at Syracuse next fall (Fall 2025) and will leave after one year at Syracuse (if he’s one and done which he most likely will be), entering the 2026 draft

I’d be happy to draft the best player available in 2026 instead, which happens to be one of the prime years of our core.

[Knicksfan1992]

Don't really understand the fascination with adding Kessler to this roster and expending key assets to do so.

Mitch, when healthy, is just as good on defense and it's not like Kessler is a major upgrade on him offensively. Maybe minor... But is that worth parting with 2 1sts and possibly Deuce for? HELL NO IMO. We don't even know how Kessler's defense holds up in the playoffs! Which ultimately is what the Knicks are building towards.

The only reason to pay that premium is if you think Mitch is permanently broken which hopefully is not the case or because Kessler is young and you want to replenish your prospect ranks a bit.

It just doesn't seem like good asset management to do and we know this team is all about their flexibility and getting their price for trades. Tea leaves tell me if this was going to happen it would have happened already. Especially with the emergence of Sims as a good defensive C.

I think the main goal for this team at the deadline is to figure out the best way to find KAT 5-15 minutes at PF consistently a night. Right now he's exclusively a C which probably limits our defensive ceiling. Whether that's through internal development with Precious and Mitch coming back or by finding out that isn't enough and they need something else. They need to figure that aspect out.

We also probably need someone who can consistently backup OG/Mikal/Hart and also provide insurance if one or a couple miss time (please don't ) . Precious should help here but, ideally, Pac comes good this year (unlikely) or they're going to have to find someone off the scrap heap (likely Shamet) or make a move for like a Marcus Smart or Norman Powell type.