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Post#41 » by Norm2953 » Sun Dec 1, 2024 8:16 pm

Remember Phil is 86 years old but any new owner would be an improvement
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Post#42 » by Brandon-Clyde » Mon Dec 2, 2024 1:02 am

Norm2953 wrote:Remember Phil is 86 years old but any new owner would be an improvement

That is something to consider. Especially because his co-buyer is part owner of the Dodgers. I would want guarantees that Portland wouldn't be moved.
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Post#43 » by DusterBuster » Mon Dec 2, 2024 5:33 pm

Roy The Natural wrote:
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Pattycakes wrote:Same. zero chance scoot is available


It’s less he’s not available and more he has no value. Not a huge market for undersized PGs who can’t shoot, can’t defend and are sloppy as hell with the ball.


He's not undersized Even if the overall statement is mostly true.


Traditionally, no he's not undersized... in the trend-line where the NBA is going with taller and taller PG's, even being average height for a PG is rapidly becoming undersized.
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Post#44 » by Walton1one » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:54 pm

Any new ownership would be welcome over the dysfunctional Jodi, Bert & the Vulcans

It is past time that Adam Silver grows a spine for once and forces them to sell the team, enough is enough.
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Post#45 » by Roy The Natural » Wed Dec 4, 2024 5:55 am

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It’s less he’s not available and more he has no value. Not a huge market for undersized PGs who can’t shoot, can’t defend and are sloppy as hell with the ball.


He's not undersized Even if the overall statement is mostly true.


Traditionally, no he's not undersized... in the trend-line where the NBA is going with taller and taller PG's, even being average height for a PG is rapidly becoming undersized.


Maybe... But none of the "tall point guards" really play defense either, so I'm not concerned about size in the slightest.

His size is fine and his wingspan is really good. Actual height is pretty.kucj irrelevant in the game of basketball, especially for non bigs. Wingspan and standing reach are what matter.
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Post#46 » by Norm2953 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 6:09 am

I'm at least sympathetic to Scoot.

He's a guy who seems to want to play. I think he'll be a over-drafted journeyman type
of PG who will have an NBA career. Hopefully, Portland will hire a good HC after Chauncey
is finally gone for two years in the G League and two years under Chauncey hasn't helped
his career.
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Post#47 » by Butter » Wed Dec 4, 2024 10:34 am

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/3324313/

Elsewhere in the frontcourt, forward Jerami Grant has drawn consistent trade interest since signing a five-year, $160 million contract, but there’s been a difference in opinion on his value. Portland has been unwilling to trade Grant without two first-round picks in return, while interested teams have only been willing to consider parting with one first-round pick. Some teams also view Grant’s contract as a neutral asset. 2 days ago – via HoopsHype


I'm all for Cronin getting max value, but I hope he doesn't price himself out of the trade market.
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Post#48 » by Walton1one » Wed Dec 4, 2024 5:41 pm

Butter wrote:https://hoopshype.com/rumor/3324313/

Elsewhere in the frontcourt, forward Jerami Grant has drawn consistent trade interest since signing a five-year, $160 million contract, but there’s been a difference in opinion on his value. Portland has been unwilling to trade Grant without two first-round picks in return, while interested teams have only been willing to consider parting with one first-round pick. Some teams also view Grant’s contract as a neutral asset. 2 days ago – via HoopsHype


I'm all for Cronin getting max value, but I hope he doesn't price himself out of the trade market.


Yeah, reading this was a little concerning
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Post#49 » by DusterBuster » Wed Dec 4, 2024 5:43 pm

Butter wrote:https://hoopshype.com/rumor/3324313/

Elsewhere in the frontcourt, forward Jerami Grant has drawn consistent trade interest since signing a five-year, $160 million contract, but there’s been a difference in opinion on his value. Portland has been unwilling to trade Grant without two first-round picks in return, while interested teams have only been willing to consider parting with one first-round pick. Some teams also view Grant’s contract as a neutral asset. 2 days ago – via HoopsHype


I'm all for Cronin getting max value, but I hope he doesn't price himself out of the trade market.


I think holding out for two firsts for Jerami on his current contract is stupid. Grant is now and always has been a really really good player, but not a great player. The Pistons went through this sammmme song and dance to try and get multiple firsts from teams for him, eventually they only got 1, and it's a 2025 from a still pretty good Bucks team.

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Post#50 » by Tim Lehrbach » Wed Dec 4, 2024 6:44 pm

We don't know that Cronin wants to move Grant at all.
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Post#51 » by DusterBuster » Wed Dec 4, 2024 6:45 pm

Tim Lehrbach wrote:We don't know that Cronin wants to move Grant at all.


He certainly doesn't seem that motivated to do anything atm.

To our dismay, I think he's more than happy to just sit around and do nothing. I don't think he feels any of the urgency we see to move the vets for the young guys. I'm sure he's using the injury bug as excuse / reasoning why.
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Post#52 » by Butter » Wed Dec 4, 2024 11:59 pm

Tim Lehrbach wrote:We don't know that Cronin wants to move Grant at all.


That is true, but it is encouraging if other teams are interested
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Post#53 » by JasonStern » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:01 am

And Billups now has 4 of the 5 largest point differential Blazers losses of all-time, including as a new franchise and the mid 2000s tank era.

I don't live in Portland. I am fine if they move the team. It would give me a guilt-free out to go support a team with a passionate owner and a competent GM/coach.

No surprise the Blazers would prefer to move Ayton and his $34M this season contract than Timelord. But again, you'd need a buyer. When I was in college, I had either a washer or a dryer that would move when the load was imbalanced. And that thing, with an extension cord, could beat Ayton down the court.

Simons never publicly complained. That's just anti-Simons RealGM folklore. He's not the answer, but he's making nearly $26M getting to chuck up as many shots as he wants. He knows he's a role player with a high usage rate that wouldn't get the same burn on any winning team. He's not a negative value player, but I doubt he returns anything of value in a trade. Maybe you get a late protected 1st and acquire another Kris Murray, but then also have to take on a bad contract? Again, I'm not a Simons fan. I am a Sharpe fan. Not sure how many times I have to clarify that. But unless a good deal came along, I don't see why you don't just run that contract out.

Grant needs to be moved, even if you don't get any value from him. Do that, let Ayton and Simons expire, and we're only on the hook for $48M in 2026-27. Add two lottery picks, and great position for the Las Vegas Trail Blazers under new ownership and management to be in. :pray:
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Post#54 » by PDXKnight » Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:48 pm

Butter wrote:
Tim Lehrbach wrote:We don't know that Cronin wants to move Grant at all.


That is true, but it is encouraging if other teams are interested


Yeah I think that line originated from the Blazers fo meaning they are trying to advertise he's available without outright stating the obvious. Doesn't mean jerami gets traded but I think they're open to it depending on what is offered
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Post#55 » by Butter » Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:12 pm

PDXKnight wrote:
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Tim Lehrbach wrote:We don't know that Cronin wants to move Grant at all.


That is true, but it is encouraging if other teams are interested


Yeah I think that line originated from the Blazers fo meaning they are trying to advertise he's available without outright stating the obvious. Doesn't mean jerami gets traded but I think they're open to it depending on what is offered


Well, with Cronin, that's half the battle
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Post#56 » by PDXKnight » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:21 am

Butter wrote:
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That is true, but it is encouraging if other teams are interested


Yeah I think that line originated from the Blazers fo meaning they are trying to advertise he's available without outright stating the obvious. Doesn't mean jerami gets traded but I think they're open to it depending on what is offered


Well, with Cronin, that's half the battle


Indeed. But will he relent on his high asking price?
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Post#57 » by Norm2953 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:23 am

JasonStern wrote:And Billups now has 4 of the 5 largest point differential Blazers losses of all-time, including as a new franchise and the mid 2000s tank era.

I don't live in Portland. I am fine if they move the team. It would give me a guilt-free out to go support a team with a passionate owner and a competent GM/coach.

No surprise the Blazers would prefer to move Ayton and his $34M this season contract than Timelord. But again, you'd need a buyer. When I was in college, I had either a washer or a dryer that would move when the load was imbalanced. And that thing, with an extension cord, could beat Ayton down the court.

Simons never publicly complained. That's just anti-Simons RealGM folklore. He's not the answer, but he's making nearly $26M getting to chuck up as many shots as he wants. He knows he's a role player with a high usage rate that wouldn't get the same burn on any winning team. He's not a negative value player, but I doubt he returns anything of value in a trade. Maybe you get a late protected 1st and acquire another Kris Murray, but then also have to take on a bad contract? Again, I'm not a Simons fan. I am a Sharpe fan. Not sure how many times I have to clarify that. But unless a good deal came along, I don't see why you don't just run that contract out.

Grant needs to be moved, even if you don't get any value from him. Do that, let Ayton and Simons expire, and we're only on the hook for $48M in 2026-27. Add two lottery picks, and great position for the Las Vegas Trail Blazers under new ownership and management to be in. :pray:


Totally agree but I do think the closer they get to the end of their contracts, something of value could be obtained.

$60+ million in EC does lead to options in free agency in 2026
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Post#58 » by PDXKnight » Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:26 am

JasonStern wrote:And Billups now has 4 of the 5 largest point differential Blazers losses of all-time, including as a new franchise and the mid 2000s tank era.

I don't live in Portland. I am fine if they move the team. It would give me a guilt-free out to go support a team with a passionate owner and a competent GM/coach.

No surprise the Blazers would prefer to move Ayton and his $34M this season contract than Timelord. But again, you'd need a buyer. When I was in college, I had either a washer or a dryer that would move when the load was imbalanced. And that thing, with an extension cord, could beat Ayton down the court.

Simons never publicly complained. That's just anti-Simons RealGM folklore. He's not the answer, but he's making nearly $26M getting to chuck up as many shots as he wants. He knows he's a role player with a high usage rate that wouldn't get the same burn on any winning team. He's not a negative value player, but I doubt he returns anything of value in a trade. Maybe you get a late protected 1st and acquire another Kris Murray, but then also have to take on a bad contract? Again, I'm not a Simons fan. I am a Sharpe fan. Not sure how many times I have to clarify that. But unless a good deal came along, I don't see why you don't just run that contract out.

Grant needs to be moved, even if you don't get any value from him. Do that, let Ayton and Simons expire, and we're only on the hook for $48M in 2026-27. Add two lottery picks, and great position for the Las Vegas Trail Blazers under new ownership and management to be in. :pray:


I don't want the team moved, this is the only pro team in the metro area i live in and grew up in (soccer is pro i guess but not the same). The Blazers are a Portland tradition and the fans will return when we fix the internal/ownership issues.

Frankly I don't think the nba wants the Blazers moved either. This is a good market and really is an asset to the league as a good fan base and a NW media market. I think Seattle and Vegas get expansion teams in the next 2 years and those are the only 2 cities who id see challenging Portland for the Blazers. Moda isn't in bad shape especially if renovated and based on recent history with the financial commitment to the hops and the MLB Portland diamond project I highly suspect the city and state would pony up what would be needed to save the Blazers if eventually needed (presumably a sports complex similar to the warriors model with housing/shopping/whatever else on a big plot of land ie somewhere in beaverton).
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Post#59 » by ValvPiti » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:24 pm

Whats up with Sharpe? I kinda expected him to be quite a lot better than he has been.
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Post#60 » by m0ng0 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:52 pm

ValvPiti wrote:Whats up with Sharpe? I kinda expected him to be quite a lot better than he has been.

He has no fire in his belly, and that's not something you can teach sadly.

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