2024-25 English Premier League Discussion Thread

[Wisky4life]

United is a bad team.

Going to see a lot of transfers in and out next summer

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[MetalFingaz]

United is a bad team.

Going to see a lot of transfers in and out next summer

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Death, taxes, and United turning over their entire squad with each new coach.

[Baseline81]

Going to see a lot of transfers in and out next summer

I, too, feel Amorim will change up this squad. It'll be interesting to see how much some of these players are valued at by other clubs.

One has to look no further than this past summer. Only Ugarte and Yoro will likely remain. Incredibly poor transfer business for some time now.

[Joao Saraiva]

Amorim might not bring big big names tough. But he'll bring the right ones.

These players truly lack intensity. I feel very few will survive under Amorim. Possibly United will keep Mainoo, Ugarte, Bruno Fernandes, Onana and that is it.

The others will be replaced soon. I don't believe he'll insist on Rashford as a center forward for much longer, he'll realize he's terrible and Hojlund fits a lot better.

Overall the team just lacks a lot of intensity. It's painfull to see. It will be a true test to these players till the end of the season. I still believe United will play a lot better in a couple of months.

[Baseline81]

What has happened to both Aston Villa and Newcastle United?

Since the win over Bayern, Villa has not looked good. Meanwhile, Newcastle, with no European matches, simply hasn't been consistent enough.

[stormi]

What has happened to both Aston Villa and Newcastle United?

Since the win over Bayern, Villa has not looked good. Meanwhile, Newcastle, with no European matches, simply hasn't been consistent enough.

Newcastle are a victim of Dan Ashworth and Paul Mitchell's clown show squad building. That midfield three is a horror of imbalance.

Longstaff has no right to be starting week in and week out. Joelinton playing on the wing etc.

They need a creative attacking midfielder, a winger upgrade on Barnes + Almiron (dross) and their CBs are very mediocre. They went on a wild goosechase for Guehi last summer and their efforts were ultimately futile.

Pope has also hit the wall.

Love their fullbacks to death, especially Lewis Hall - potential to be one of the best in the world. Isak & Anthony Gordon are serious quality as well. Guimaraes and Tonali are alright. The rest of it is worth where they are in the table.

Villa on the other hand have a squad I love, they're just coping with the rigors of CL football, I said this a while ago in the CL thread

Duran is so special. Pains me every time I get to see him play knowing we had him in our palms.

Ramsey and Onana took knocks this game against Bayern, I think their league form will hinder for as long as they're in both competitions. They ran their socks off like it was a final.

S/O to Emery though. Gerrard tried to warp people’s minds about the quality of his players (re: Pochettino).

A proper manager will change your life.

I think it was when they played Bayern, it was very evident then that the hard yards would catch up with them.

Everyone is focused on Liverpool City on the weekend, Villa Chelsea is the actual marquee fixture with massive top four implications in the cards.

[stormi]

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Two of the most under heralded players in the league. Could throw Ndiaye in there as well at Everton. Dibling at So'ton is an English Kvaratskhelia.

Would be sad if Cunha went to a rival. Would put the shotgun barrel in my mouth and say goodbye if Pedro went to a rival. That's the best attacker in world football.

[Baseline81]

Curious, anyone want to defend the ref/VAR in the Brighton-Southampton match yesterday?

The supposed ruling for why Southampton's go-ahead goal wasn't given was farcical, IMO. To say Armstrong was impacting the goalie's ability to play the ball. Watch it again, the goalie wasn't coming out to collect the cross nor was he ever going to be able to slide to the far post to save the shot.

[AK47MVP]

Brentford routs Leicester 4-1, Shade with a hat trick and could have been even worse. Only Spurs so far scored more goals than Brentford in the season, Tomas Frank is orchestrating amazing attacking football ( and to think they let their best striker Toney go).

[wco81]

Ruud gets hired to take his team to relegation?

[Baphomet]

Liverpool clowning City today, should have had 5 or 6. City have offered virtually nothing in this game.

Meanwhile, Spurs play a pretty lacklustre game at home to Fulham, new look United thump Everton, and Chelsea take an impressive 3-0 win over Villa. I have to say, the new managers are generally looking good this season. Slot and Maresca in particular have really impressed me. Slot has given Liverpool some much needed structural defensive solidity, and Maresca has turned Chelsea's hodgepodge of talented but disparate players into a pretty coherent and fluid team that's fun to watch.

[Baseline81]

Liverpool clowning City today, should have had 5 or 6. City have offered virtually nothing in this game.

Meanwhile, Spurs play a pretty lacklustre game at home to Fulham, new look United thump Everton, and Chelsea take an impressive 3-0 win over Villa. I have to say, the new managers are generally looking good this season. Slot and Maresca in particular have really impressed me. Slot has given Liverpool some much needed structural defensive solidity, and Maresca has turned Chelsea's hodgepodge of talented but disparate players into a pretty coherent and fluid team that's fun to watch.

Other than van Dijk's gaffe in the second half, Liverpool nullified Manchester City's attack. Several of City's players look as if they've run their last race. The only disappointment is not putting more passed them.

Also enjoyed hearing the crowd sing, "Sacked in the morning," which Pep smiled and held up six fingers. He's rattled. In fact, I am surprised there isn't more discussion about him. No doubt he goes down as one of the greats to manage, however, he's always walked into an optimal situation -- Barca, Bayern and City.

If I was Manchester City fan, I would be worried of finishing outside the top four.

[Pipp33]

What has happened to both Aston Villa and Newcastle United?

Since the win over Bayern, Villa has not looked good. Meanwhile, Newcastle, with no European matches, simply hasn't been consistent enough.

Newcastle are a victim of Dan Ashworth and Paul Mitchell's clown show squad building. That midfield three is a horror of imbalance.

Longstaff has no right to be starting week in and week out. Joelinton playing on the wing etc.

They need a creative attacking midfielder, a winger upgrade on Barnes + Almiron (dross) and their CBs are very mediocre. They went on a wild goosechase for Guehi last summer and their efforts were ultimately futile.

Pope has also hit the wall.

Love their fullbacks to death, especially Lewis Hall - potential to be one of the best in the world. Isak & Anthony Gordon are serious quality as well. Guimaraes and Tonali are alright. The rest of it is worth where they are in the table.

Villa on the other hand have a squad I love, they're just coping with the rigors of CL football, I said this a while ago in the CL thread

Duran is so special. Pains me every time I get to see him play knowing we had him in our palms.

Ramsey and Onana took knocks this game against Bayern, I think their league form will hinder for as long as they're in both competitions. They ran their socks off like it was a final.

S/O to Emery though. Gerrard tried to warp people’s minds about the quality of his players (re: Pochettino).

A proper manager will change your life.

I think it was when they played Bayern, it was very evident then that the hard yards would catch up with them.

Everyone is focused on Liverpool City on the weekend, Villa Chelsea is the actual marquee fixture with massive top four implications in the cards.

Villa are completely worn down at the moment and most of the squad are really struggling to find form and energy, which we knew would likely be an issue this season with CL football.

Unfortunately, we've had 2-3 players from the start of the season with niggling injuries that they've played through for the most part, but are completely out of form because of that (especially Bailey). And the toll on the rest of the regular starters is not taking hold over the last 3-4 weeks.

Full belief in the manager and the club, as the vast majority of the supporters do, but there's always the social media whingers demanding Emery out, because we've had a rough 4-5 weeks - absolute clowns.

We are not where we want to be, but still only 4 points away from Top 4 and also still in a great spot on CL table. Tough run ahead, but 2 home games to try and get back on track.

[stormi]

What has happened to both Aston Villa and Newcastle United?

Since the win over Bayern, Villa has not looked good. Meanwhile, Newcastle, with no European matches, simply hasn't been consistent enough.

Newcastle are a victim of Dan Ashworth and Paul Mitchell's clown show squad building. That midfield three is a horror of imbalance.

Longstaff has no right to be starting week in and week out. Joelinton playing on the wing etc.

They need a creative attacking midfielder, a winger upgrade on Barnes + Almiron (dross) and their CBs are very mediocre. They went on a wild goosechase for Guehi last summer and their efforts were ultimately futile.

Pope has also hit the wall.

Love their fullbacks to death, especially Lewis Hall - potential to be one of the best in the world. Isak & Anthony Gordon are serious quality as well. Guimaraes and Tonali are alright. The rest of it is worth where they are in the table.

Villa on the other hand have a squad I love, they're just coping with the rigors of CL football, I said this a while ago in the CL thread

Duran is so special. Pains me every time I get to see him play knowing we had him in our palms.

Ramsey and Onana took knocks this game against Bayern, I think their league form will hinder for as long as they're in both competitions. They ran their socks off like it was a final.

S/O to Emery though. Gerrard tried to warp people’s minds about the quality of his players (re: Pochettino).

A proper manager will change your life.

I think it was when they played Bayern, it was very evident then that the hard yards would catch up with them.

Everyone is focused on Liverpool City on the weekend, Villa Chelsea is the actual marquee fixture with massive top four implications in the cards.

Villa are completely worn down at the moment and most of the squad are really struggling to find form and energy, which we knew would likely be an issue this season with CL football.

Unfortunately, we've had 2-3 players from the start of the season with niggling injuries that they've played through for the most part, but are completely out of form because of that (especially Bailey). And the toll on the rest of the regular starters is not taking hold over the last 3-4 weeks.

Full belief in the manager and the club, as the vast majority of the supporters do, but there's always the social media whingers demanding Emery out, because we've had a rough 4-5 weeks - absolute clowns.

We are not where we want to be, but still only 4 points away from Top 4 and also still in a great spot on CL table. Tough run ahead, but 2 home games to try and get back on track.

Saw some Villa fans unhappy with Rogers form, that makes me a bit sad because he was so dynamic to start the season. Performances against Bayern and Arsenal were two of the best of any player in the division. Rice and Partey couldn't get near him.

Philogene didn't look ready for the moment.

Onana is also a massive missing presence both in the middle of the park, winning 50/50 balls and on set pieces.

Was far too easy for Caicedo and Lavia to overrun Kamara and Tielemans.

Table is extremely tight so Villa aren't out of the race or anything, but a serious injury to Dibu and I might alter my tone. Robin Olsen is a liability.

[Pipp33]

Newcastle are a victim of Dan Ashworth and Paul Mitchell's clown show squad building. That midfield three is a horror of imbalance.

Longstaff has no right to be starting week in and week out. Joelinton playing on the wing etc.

They need a creative attacking midfielder, a winger upgrade on Barnes + Almiron (dross) and their CBs are very mediocre. They went on a wild goosechase for Guehi last summer and their efforts were ultimately futile.

Pope has also hit the wall.

Love their fullbacks to death, especially Lewis Hall - potential to be one of the best in the world. Isak & Anthony Gordon are serious quality as well. Guimaraes and Tonali are alright. The rest of it is worth where they are in the table.

Villa on the other hand have a squad I love, they're just coping with the rigors of CL football, I said this a while ago in the CL thread



I think it was when they played Bayern, it was very evident then that the hard yards would catch up with them.

Everyone is focused on Liverpool City on the weekend, Villa Chelsea is the actual marquee fixture with massive top four implications in the cards.

Villa are completely worn down at the moment and most of the squad are really struggling to find form and energy, which we knew would likely be an issue this season with CL football.

Unfortunately, we've had 2-3 players from the start of the season with niggling injuries that they've played through for the most part, but are completely out of form because of that (especially Bailey). And the toll on the rest of the regular starters is not taking hold over the last 3-4 weeks.

Full belief in the manager and the club, as the vast majority of the supporters do, but there's always the social media whingers demanding Emery out, because we've had a rough 4-5 weeks - absolute clowns.

We are not where we want to be, but still only 4 points away from Top 4 and also still in a great spot on CL table. Tough run ahead, but 2 home games to try and get back on track.

Saw some Villa fans unhappy with Rogers form, that makes me a bit sad because he was so dynamic to start the season. Performances against Bayern and Arsenal were two of the best of any player in the division. Rice and Partey couldn't get near him.

Philogene didn't look ready for the moment.

Onana is also a massive missing presence both in the middle of the park, winning 50/50 balls and on set pieces.

Was far too easy for Caicedo and Lavia to overrun Kamara and Tielemans.

Table is extremely tight so Villa aren't out of the race or anything, but a serious injury to Dibu and I might alter my tone. Robin Olsen is a liability.

Yes, no Villa fan wants Olsen in goals. The whole backline looks nervous when he's in there, as his ball playing and passing is poor. Wouldn't mind seeing young Gauci get a go, he's played in cup games, but Emery may think he's not ready yet.

[The_Brecht]

This was complete domination. If we were a little more clinical, it could've been a lot more.
Man Utd looked like they never thought they had a chance.

[AK47MVP]

Onana on those corner balls close to the goal looks clueless. More teams will copy what Arsenal did there.

[wco81]

So are they going to change the rules after the season about the corners? Blocking the goalkeeper from trying to get to the ball?

[Wisky4life]

This was complete domination. If we were a little more clinical, it could've been a lot more.
Man Utd looked like they never thought they had a chance.

I didnt think Arsenal played that well. If United were a little more aggressive. We may have seen a different result. Man those corners.....

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[stormi]

United never really looked like they had a chance to threaten Arsenal in any meaningful way.

The technical level top down in the squad isn't up to par.

Players like Ugarte/Ligt/Mount/Garnacho are simply not good enough, and then players like Hojlund/Rashford/Bruno are either utterly flawed or just so raw that they're an active hindrance.

In terms of concrete building blocks: Amad Diallo, Leny Yoro and Andre Onana should be viewed as the central figures behind this next era of MU. Mazraoui can definitely start on a very good team as well.