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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#801 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:11 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:This one's hard to believe... the Celtics have the 2nd easiest remaining schedule (in terms of opponent winning %), per tankathon.com.


Not really surprising when you're in the weaker of the two conferences, have already played the other elite team 2x, and most importantly don't have to play yourself.

Among East teams, we've played the 2nd least number of games (3) vs. the tougher conference so far. Only the Hornets have had fewer (2). So among East teams at least, I thought we'd have one of the tougher schedules left.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#802 » by Gant » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:28 pm

Michael Pina

The Celtics have attempted 339 more three pointers than their opponents this season. That's first in the league. The next two teams in net differential are Minnesota and Charlotte at a COMBINED +270.

Boston is literally lapping the field.


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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#803 » by 165bows » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:43 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
keevsnick1 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:This one's hard to believe... the Celtics have the 2nd easiest remaining schedule (in terms of opponent winning %), per tankathon.com.


Not really surprising when you're in the weaker of the two conferences, have already played the other elite team 2x, and most importantly don't have to play yourself.

Among East teams, we've played the 2nd least number of games (3) vs. the tougher conference so far. Only the Hornets have had fewer (2). So among East teams at least, I thought we'd have one of the tougher schedules left.

Really good teams almost always have weak schedules. And vice versa. It’s just a different sample of opposition.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#804 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Dec 5, 2024 7:27 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:This one's hard to believe... the Celtics have the 2nd easiest remaining schedule (in terms of opponent winning %), per tankathon.com.

Celtics can sleepwalk to 63-65 wins. Matter of fact, they are doing it right now.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#805 » by djFan71 » Thu Dec 5, 2024 7:27 pm

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I'm not sure I'm ready for the games to count yet.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#806 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Dec 5, 2024 7:51 pm

White and Pritchard, ladies and gentlemen!

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In 2016-17, Curry and Klay combined for 156/290 from 3 (40.0%) after 22 games (19-3).
This season, PP and DWhite have combined for 163/389 from 3 (41.9%) after 22 games (18-4).

I'm not saying they're the new Curry and Klay. But I'm NOT not saying they're the new Curry and Klay.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#807 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Dec 5, 2024 10:06 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:White and Pritchard, ladies and gentlemen!

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In 2016-17, Curry and Klay combined for 156/290 from 3 (40.0%) after 22 games (19-3).
This season, PP and DWhite have combined for 163/389 from 3 (41.9%) after 22 games (18-4).

I'm not saying they're the new Curry and Klay. But I'm NOT not saying they're the new Curry and Klay.


If we included KD and Tatum in the equation...

KD, Curry, Klay: 199/495 (40.20%)
JT, PP, White: 246/611 (40.26%)
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#808 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 12:23 am

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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#809 » by shackles10 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:10 pm

keevsnick1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Trade Tatum...

Boston is 8-1 the past two seasons when JT sits, with a margin of 16 points, with the only loss in the last second by two points in Indy.

TripleOT


I remember that loss, it was the one where Brown got hit in the head on a jump shot and the Refs inexplicably overturned the foul then called KP for a foul on the other end leading to the loss. Absolute reffing disaster.


Yep that's the one. Ruined my son's birthday as we were at the game row 7 on that end of the court. Clearly a foul and everyone knew it. The whole time they reviewed it they never put the video on the jumbotron. That was all I needed to know that it was a foul when they didn't want the home crowd to see it. Replay at home confirmed it. Oh well, being in person for the clincher in the ECF in almost the exact same seats more than made up for it.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#810 » by Triple M » Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:10 pm

Wyc is in Abu Dhabi for the F1 Constuctors Championship finale. He sure has been in the M/E a lot recently
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#811 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:05 pm

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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#812 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:06 pm

Triple M wrote:Wyc is in Abu Dhabi for the F1 Constuctors Championship finale. He sure has been in the M/E a lot recently

Uggggghhhh… come on Pags!
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#813 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Dec 7, 2024 6:19 am

Just know that I regret posting this lol. White and Pritchard combined for a single field goal (0/10 from 3) and 6 pts against the Bucks.

ConstableGeneva wrote:White and Pritchard, ladies and gentlemen!

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In 2016-17, Curry and Klay combined for 156/290 from 3 (40.0%) after 22 games (19-3).
This season, PP and DWhite have combined for 163/389 from 3 (41.9%) after 22 games (18-4).

I'm not saying they're the new Curry and Klay. But I'm NOT not saying they're the new Curry and Klay.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#814 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:15 am

Celtics record when shooting below 33% from 3 in a game:

2019-20: 8-13 (38.1%)
2020-21: 4-18 (18.2%)
2021-22: 12-20 (37.5%)
2022-23: 10-14 (41.7%)
2023-24: 8-12 (40.0%)
2024-25: 6-0 (100.0%)

Record of NBA teams when taking 60%+ of their shots from 3, last 3 seasons:

Celtics: 9-2 (81.8%)
Rest of NBA: 8-6 (57.1%)
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#815 » by Fierce1 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:23 am

That stat is now out the window because the Cs are more than just a 3pt shooting team.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#816 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Dec 7, 2024 11:20 am

INJURY REPORT for the Grizzlies: GG Jackson, Vince Williams, Edey, and Kennard are OUT. Smart is QUESTIONABLE.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#817 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:30 pm

Did a quick dive on nba.com, looking at per48 comparisons YoY.

2024-25 Celts scoring 118.5 points per 48 while attempting 50.4 3PTA
2023-24 Celts scored 119.7 points per 48 while attempting 42.1 3PTA

So three pointers are up ~8 attempts and scoring is down ~1 point.

(I used per 48 stats rather than per game because number of overtime sessions fluctuates season to season.)
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#818 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:48 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Did a quick dive on nba.com, looking at per48 comparisons YoY.

2024-25 Celts scoring 118.5 points per 48 while attempting 50.4 3PTA
2023-24 Celts scored 119.7 points per 48 while attempting 42.1 3PTA

So three pointers are up ~8 attempts and scoring is down ~1 point.

(I used per 48 stats rather than per game because number of overtime sessions fluctuates season to season.)

Better metric... (from BBRef) since amount of possessions fluctuates game to game. Offensive Rating is points scored per 100 possessions. Also used amount of threes taken relative to total amount of field goal attempts.

The amount of 3s Cs are taking is indeed up.
2023-24 3-pt attempt rate (3FGA/FGA): .471
2024-25 3-pt attempt rate (3FGA/FGA): .564

But we're scoring better this year relative to league average.
2023-24 relative offensive rating: +7.9
2024-25 relative offensive rating: +8.2

That's with the Cs shooting it worse from three compared to last season.
2023-24 3FG%: 38.8%
2024-25 3FG%: 37.3%
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#819 » by phincsfan » Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:56 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Did a quick dive on nba.com, looking at per48 comparisons YoY.

2024-25 Celts scoring 118.5 points per 48 while attempting 50.4 3PTA
2023-24 Celts scored 119.7 points per 48 while attempting 42.1 3PTA

So three pointers are up ~8 attempts and scoring is down ~1 point.

(I used per 48 stats rather than per game because number of overtime sessions fluctuates season to season.)


PP has doubled his 3pt output and White increased his by a good bit. They're taking 18 between the two of them.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#820 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Dec 7, 2024 9:25 pm

It seems like, relative to last season, our offensive rating is down a little bit, but that the offensive rating of the entire NBA is down a little bit more. But isn’t the whole point of shooting more threes to juice the offense, why has league wide increase in 3PTA resulted in league wide decrease in offense?
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redslastlaugh wrote:Did a quick dive on nba.com, looking at per48 comparisons YoY.

2024-25 Celts scoring 118.5 points per 48 while attempting 50.4 3PTA
2023-24 Celts scored 119.7 points per 48 while attempting 42.1 3PTA

So three pointers are up ~8 attempts and scoring is down ~1 point.

(I used per 48 stats rather than per game because number of overtime sessions fluctuates season to season.)

Better metric... (from BBRef) since amount of possessions fluctuates game to game. Offensive Rating is points scored per 100 possessions. Also used amount of threes taken relative to total amount of field goal attempts.

The amount of 3s Cs are taking is indeed up.
2023-24 3-pt attempt rate (3FGA/FGA): .471
2024-25 3-pt attempt rate (3FGA/FGA): .564

But we're scoring better this year relative to league average.
2023-24 relative offensive rating: +7.9
2024-25 relative offensive rating: +8.2

That's with the Cs shooting it worse from three compared to last season.
2023-24 3FG%: 38.8%
2024-25 3FG%: 37.3%

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