FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22

[Fadeaway_J]

I had two ideas that I'm not sure hold their own but can be combined into one.

Your team needs to be built of two halves:

4 players who have a relative that ever played in the NBA/ABA (can be checked relatively quickly via bbref)

4 players who weren't drafted in any of our last x drafts (maybe a hundred? twenty?)

Second list might take some time to compose, but if people want the idea, I'll take it upon myself to compose the list. Might not be ready for the immediate next draft

I've never been able to drum up much interest, but I'm pretty sure the relatives restriction can work as a full draft.

This is a sampling of what I found the last time I researched it (post-merger):

PG - Steph, Payton, Stockton, Dame, Jrue, SGA, Kyrie, Price, Haliburton, Tim Hardaway, Brunson, Garland, Dragic, Gus Williams, Bibby, LaMelo, GPII, Delon Wright, Tyus Jones

SG - Kobe, T-Mac, Klay, Booker, Eddie Jones, Gervin, Alvin Robertson, Dennis Johnson, Matthews, Steve Smith, Brent Barry, Terry, J.R. Smith, Ron Harper, Seth Curry

SF - LeBron, Pippen, Dr. J, Vince, Wiggins, Middleton, Wilkins, Rice, Deng, McDaniels, Jalen Rose, Pressey, King, Jalen Rose, MPJ, Szczerbiak, Dunleavy

PF - KG, Giannis, JJJ, Love, Griffin, Millsap, Nance, Mobley, Horace Grant, Jerami Grant, Crowder

C - Shaq, Walton, Ewing, Mutombo, P. Gasol, M. Gasol, Horford, Lopez, Sikma, A. Sabonis, D. Sabonis, Frye

This includes a couple of relatives that never actually played a game in the NBA, but if anything that just makes the research easier.

Go further back and you can include guys like Rick Barry and his sons, Willis Reed, Bob McAdoo, etc.

[durantbird]

I had two ideas that I'm not sure hold their own but can be combined into one.

Your team needs to be built of two halves:

4 players who have a relative that ever played in the NBA/ABA (can be checked relatively quickly via bbref)

4 players who weren't drafted in any of our last x drafts (maybe a hundred? twenty?)

Second list might take some time to compose, but if people want the idea, I'll take it upon myself to compose the list. Might not be ready for the immediate next draft

I've never been able to drum up much interest, but I'm pretty sure the relatives restriction can work as a full draft.

This is a sampling of what I found the last time I researched it (post-merger):

PG - Steph, Payton, Stockton, Dame, Jrue, SGA, Kyrie, Price, Haliburton, Tim Hardaway, Brunson, Garland, Dragic, Gus Williams, Bibby, LaMelo, GPII, Delon Wright, Tyus Jones

SG - Kobe, T-Mac, Klay, Booker, Eddie Jones, Gervin, Alvin Robertson, Dennis Johnson, Matthews, Steve Smith, Brent Barry, Terry, J.R. Smith, Ron Harper, Seth Curry

SF - LeBron, Pippen, Dr. J, Vince, Wiggins, Middleton, Wilkins, Rice, Deng, McDaniels, Jalen Rose, Pressey, King, Jalen Rose, MPJ, Szczerbiak, Dunleavy

PF - KG, Giannis, JJJ, Love, Griffin, Millsap, Nance, Mobley, Horace Grant, Jerami Grant, Crowder

C - Shaq, Walton, Ewing, Mutombo, P. Gasol, M. Gasol, Horford, Lopez, Sikma, A. Sabonis, D. Sabonis, Frye

This includes a couple of relatives that never actually played a game in the NBA, but if anything that just makes the research easier.

Go further back and you can include guys like Rick Barry and his sons, Willis Reed, Bob McAdoo, etc.

I'm not sure if Shaq should count or not. But yeah LeBron recently joined the club. If we wait a bit more I think Peja joins as well.

Other interesting names who are the less prominent of the family: Lonzo, Dell, Seth.

[durantbird]

I had two ideas that I'm not sure hold their own but can be combined into one.

Your team needs to be built of two halves:

4 players who have a relative that ever played in the NBA/ABA (can be checked relatively quickly via bbref)

4 players who weren't drafted in any of our last x drafts (maybe a hundred? twenty?)

Second list might take some time to compose, but if people want the idea, I'll take it upon myself to compose the list. Might not be ready for the immediate next draft

I've never been able to drum up much interest, but I'm pretty sure the relatives restriction can work as a full draft.

This is a sampling of what I found the last time I researched it (post-merger):

PG - Steph, Payton, Stockton, Dame, Jrue, SGA, Kyrie, Price, Haliburton, Tim Hardaway, Brunson, Garland, Dragic, Gus Williams, Bibby, LaMelo, GPII, Delon Wright, Tyus Jones

SG - Kobe, T-Mac, Klay, Booker, Eddie Jones, Gervin, Alvin Robertson, Dennis Johnson, Matthews, Steve Smith, Brent Barry, Terry, J.R. Smith, Ron Harper, Seth Curry

SF - LeBron, Pippen, Dr. J, Vince, Wiggins, Middleton, Wilkins, Rice, Deng, McDaniels, Jalen Rose, Pressey, King, Jalen Rose, MPJ, Szczerbiak, Dunleavy

PF - KG, Giannis, JJJ, Love, Griffin, Millsap, Nance, Mobley, Horace Grant, Jerami Grant, Crowder

C - Shaq, Walton, Ewing, Mutombo, P. Gasol, M. Gasol, Horford, Lopez, Sikma, A. Sabonis, D. Sabonis, Frye

This includes a couple of relatives that never actually played a game in the NBA, but if anything that just makes the research easier.

Go further back and you can include guys like Rick Barry and his sons, Willis Reed, Bob McAdoo, etc.

I'm not sure if Shaq should count or not. But yeah LeBron recently joined the club. If we wait a bit more I think Peja joins as well.

Other interesting names who are the less prominent of the family: Lonzo, Dell, Seth.

And to the point of the idea itself, I have my doubts about the pool, not only with regards to top end talent or overall depth, but flexibility issues as well.

I'm not sure it holds a draft on its own, not a balanced one at least.

I think ideally it pairs with another idea, related or not, or in some kind of a scavenger hunt format.

That's my perspective on this at least. I may be wrong.

If someone decides to open a signups page on family members alone, I guess I'll give it a try anyway.

[Fadeaway_J]

I've never been able to drum up much interest, but I'm pretty sure the relatives restriction can work as a full draft.

This is a sampling of what I found the last time I researched it (post-merger):

PG - Steph, Payton, Stockton, Dame, Jrue, SGA, Kyrie, Price, Haliburton, Tim Hardaway, Brunson, Garland, Dragic, Gus Williams, Bibby, LaMelo, GPII, Delon Wright, Tyus Jones

SG - Kobe, T-Mac, Klay, Booker, Eddie Jones, Gervin, Alvin Robertson, Dennis Johnson, Matthews, Steve Smith, Brent Barry, Terry, J.R. Smith, Ron Harper, Seth Curry

SF - LeBron, Pippen, Dr. J, Vince, Wiggins, Middleton, Wilkins, Rice, Deng, McDaniels, Jalen Rose, Pressey, King, Jalen Rose, MPJ, Szczerbiak, Dunleavy

PF - KG, Giannis, JJJ, Love, Griffin, Millsap, Nance, Mobley, Horace Grant, Jerami Grant, Crowder

C - Shaq, Walton, Ewing, Mutombo, P. Gasol, M. Gasol, Horford, Lopez, Sikma, A. Sabonis, D. Sabonis, Frye

This includes a couple of relatives that never actually played a game in the NBA, but if anything that just makes the research easier.

Go further back and you can include guys like Rick Barry and his sons, Willis Reed, Bob McAdoo, etc.

I'm not sure if Shaq should count or not. But yeah LeBron recently joined the club. If we wait a bit more I think Peja joins as well.

Other interesting names who are the less prominent of the family: Lonzo, Dell, Seth.

And to the point of the idea itself, I have my doubts about the pool, not only with regards to top end talent or overall depth, but flexibility issues as well.

I'm not sure it holds a draft on its own, not a balanced one at least.

I think ideally it pairs with another idea, related or not, or in some kind of a scavenger hunt format.

That's my perspective on this at least. I may be wrong.

If someone decides to open a signups page on family members alone, I guess I'll give it a try anyway.

I know for a fact that there are quite a few more rotation players that aren't included in the list I provided. However, I've kind of limited my research because most people just don't seem to like the idea period. If I'm not mistaken, you had tried a draft with 4 family members before, and it never went anywhere.

[durantbird]

I'm not sure if Shaq should count or not. But yeah LeBron recently joined the club. If we wait a bit more I think Peja joins as well.

Other interesting names who are the less prominent of the family: Lonzo, Dell, Seth.

And to the point of the idea itself, I have my doubts about the pool, not only with regards to top end talent or overall depth, but flexibility issues as well.

I'm not sure it holds a draft on its own, not a balanced one at least.

I think ideally it pairs with another idea, related or not, or in some kind of a scavenger hunt format.

That's my perspective on this at least. I may be wrong.

If someone decides to open a signups page on family members alone, I guess I'll give it a try anyway.

I know for a fact that there are quite a few more rotation players that aren't included in the list I provided. However, I've kind of limited my research because most people just don't seem to like the idea period. If I'm not mistaken, you had tried a draft with 4 family members before, and it never went anywhere.

Interesting, I don't remember that lol

[Fadeaway_J]

And to the point of the idea itself, I have my doubts about the pool, not only with regards to top end talent or overall depth, but flexibility issues as well.

I'm not sure it holds a draft on its own, not a balanced one at least.

I think ideally it pairs with another idea, related or not, or in some kind of a scavenger hunt format.

That's my perspective on this at least. I may be wrong.

If someone decides to open a signups page on family members alone, I guess I'll give it a try anyway.

I know for a fact that there are quite a few more rotation players that aren't included in the list I provided. However, I've kind of limited my research because most people just don't seem to like the idea period. If I'm not mistaken, you had tried a draft with 4 family members before, and it never went anywhere.

Interesting, I don't remember that lol

Don't worry, that happens to me all the time

Here it is: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=2287934&p=105994634&hilit=family#p105994634

[durantbird]

Funny I was just thinking about combining the family pool with the one club pool. Thought about calling it "family ties draft". Lol. Makes sense that I think similarly to my older self

[Fadeaway_J]

Funny I was just thinking about combining the family pool with the one club pool. Thought about calling it "family ties draft". Lol. Makes sense that I think similarly to my older self

I've come up with so many brilliant ideas only to realise I ran the same draft a year ago...

[durantbird]

Throwing out there a line of thought. Can we create some idea that enables you to pick a popular star (LeBron, Kawhi, KG, Jokic, Durant, etc.) only if you pair him with some unpopular star (Iverson, Carmelo, Dominique, English, Cousins, etc.). I don't know what the ideal framework for that will be, but maybe we can think of something to achieve this.

Some idea that might be in that direction can be:

You can only pick an MVP-guy along with the top scorer for his club, that never won a chip with this club. Maybe also force one of the more costly seasons for the latter.

That means, that for LeBron you need to pair him with either Ilgauskas or Miami Glen Rice or Elign Baylor. Jokic pairs with English. Duncan pairs with Gervin. Toronto Kawhi pairs with DeRozan. Bird pairs with Antoine Walker. Dirk pairs with Blackman. Some of the pairings are more attractive like Steph+Thurmond or KG+Towns, but I guess that's fine.

Another drawback here would be that if someone picked Magic+Baylor, that makes Kobe totally disqualified, but I guess that's ok as well.

[durantbird]

LBJ Draft. Players who played for Lakers Miami Cavs.

When he retires, it'll be kind of a must to run this, but maybe we can do a slightly different idea then. Interesting pool anyway.

[parsnips33]

What about a draft where number of all-star appearances is a constraint? Like you have to have 1 one-time all star, 1 two-time all star, and one 3-time all star, but nothing over that. Or cumulative 5 all-star appearances for your whole team? On top of the existing FGA constraint

[durantbird]

I'm in the mood for another pairs draft. What do you think about same franchise mixed nationalities draft?

That means, you need to pick seasons from the same franchise, one guy American one guy International.

We can make it a bit more restrictive e.g. by using only the East or West pool.

[durantbird]

Underdog Finalists Years Draft. You can only draft with the following seasons where there was a 5th seed or below finalist: 1999 (Knicks 8th seed), 1981 (Rockets 6th seed), 1995 (Rockets 6th seed), 2020 (Heat 5th seed).

The list should be checked, because it was composed using ChatGPT.

I think this is an interesting mix of years, notice some players like KD or Steph aren't eligible for 2020.

[wackbone]

The Rickey Henderson Draft - something revolving around Steals, easiest would be something around SPG in a chosen season. Maybe 10 SPG combined amongst your 8 players? 12 SPG? Would make it a bit more challenging to find a low FGA player in the later rounds if you still need SPG...

The New Millennium Draft - Only players born since January 1st 2000 (MAYBE with an and-1). Super limited pool, would be a massive change of pace from most drafts (not necessarily a bad thing). Don't see anyone as particularly game-breaking. Assuming we had 8 drafters I think it could be fine. Best players - Wemby, Zion, ANT, Haliburton, Jalen Williams, Chet, LaMelo, Garland, Maxey, Mobley, Franz, Paolo, Sengun, Suggs, Barnes, Cade, Herro, Barrett...

[Laimbeer]

The Rickey Henderson Draft - something revolving around Steals, easiest would be something around SPG in a chosen season. Maybe 10 SPG combined amongst your 8 players? 12 SPG? Would make it a bit more challenging to find a low FGA player in the later rounds if you still need SPG...

The New Millennium Draft - Only players born since January 1st 2000 (MAYBE with an and-1). Super limited pool, would be a massive change of pace from most drafts (not necessarily a bad thing). Don't see anyone as particularly game-breaking. Assuming we had 8 drafters I think it could be fine. Best players - Wemby, Zion, ANT, Haliburton, Jalen Williams, Chet, LaMelo, Garland, Maxey, Mobley, Franz, Paolo, Sengun, Suggs, Barnes, Cade, Herro, Barrett...

This isn't a baseball forum. lol

Anyway, I like The New Millennium Draft

[wackbone]

The Rickey Henderson Draft - something revolving around Steals, easiest would be something around SPG in a chosen season. Maybe 10 SPG combined amongst your 8 players? 12 SPG? Would make it a bit more challenging to find a low FGA player in the later rounds if you still need SPG...

The New Millennium Draft - Only players born since January 1st 2000 (MAYBE with an and-1). Super limited pool, would be a massive change of pace from most drafts (not necessarily a bad thing). Don't see anyone as particularly game-breaking. Assuming we had 8 drafters I think it could be fine. Best players - Wemby, Zion, ANT, Haliburton, Jalen Williams, Chet, LaMelo, Garland, Maxey, Mobley, Franz, Paolo, Sengun, Suggs, Barnes, Cade, Herro, Barrett...

This isn't a baseball forum. lol

Anyway, I like The New Millennium Draft

I know, I know. But figured seeing as he is the MLB's all time leader in steals, we could do a steals draft.

[parsnips33]

New Millennium with an and-one sounds really cool

[Fadeaway_J]

Am I being that guy by pointing out that the millenium actually began in 2001?

I don't think the numbers are sufficient either way, and that list of best players has very few individual seasons worth building around at this stage.

[Snakebites]

Am I being that guy by pointing out that the millenium actually began in 2001?

I don't think the numbers are sufficient either way, and that list of best players has very few individual seasons worth building around at this stage.

1) Yes
2) I agree

[wackbone]

Am I being that guy by pointing out that the millenium actually began in 2001?

I don't think the numbers are sufficient either way, and that list of best players has very few individual seasons worth building around at this stage.

Listen, I was born in 96, what do I know lol

Yes I know it would be tight, but I’m a bit tired of lineups of allstars/superstars. And we never use guys like Paolo/Franz/Sengun/etc. because they’re not nearly as valuable/practical as other available options. Even if not this, I’d love to do a draft without 4+ all-nba guys on each team. It’d be a significant downgrade from teams we build in all other drafts, but in theory all the teams within this game could be even. Limit to 8 participants (what most games have had recently) and we should have enough eligible players to draft.