Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[HarthorneWingo]

We should’ve signed Gary Trent, Jr.

Gary Trent Jr. signed a 1 year , $2,613,120 contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, including $2,613,120 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,613,120. In 2024-25, Trent Jr. will earn a base salary of $2,613,120, while carrying a cap hit of $2,087,519 and a dead cap value of $2,087,519.

[DaGawd]

The Knicks will 'acquire' Precious, Shamet and Mitch....if you think anything else happens you're fooling yourself.

They may add Warren but I doubt it and there is an extremely long shot of a deadline deal since it's going to be exceedingly difficult considering the apron restrictions.

Although, sure, go ahead, wear out those finger tips on the trade machine and forum gossip, who am I to tell you what to do.

yeah we just really don’t have the resources to pull off anything significant

[Jalen Bluntson]

Oh they're going to trade those other guys too. This posturing is just b/c those guys will garner the most value

This isn't completely on topic but we really have little to no way to improve this season with the way the cap rules are set up.

We'll need to wait till the offseason for a real, marked improvement to the roster.

then the new rules make it hard to improve roster in the offseason as well. knicks are an expensive team and nba put in so many roadblocks to improve team. only way really is to sign achiuwa to a balloon payment salary and then trade for a smaller salary, see what the suns did with royce oneal, okogie etc

knicks projected to be in second apron. so cannot
- use any MLE, cannot use BAE, cannot send cash, cannot aggregate players, cannot do s&t
plus the knicks 2032 first rounder gets locked and cannot be traded.

We are not projected to be over the 2nd apron though. We will probably try to avoid next year too.

We are currently projected to have 13+mil under the 2nd apron next year but, we will need to sign 5 guys with that. I think we will possibly wait to extend Mikal until the 2026 season because of this but, those are bridges we won't cross until next year. Pun intended. Aller is a genius and unless we are going all in on a certain player to finalize the roster, we will keep the wiggle room we have until that happens. .

First apron
Teams that exceed the first apron, which is about 126.7% of the salary cap, face restrictions such as:
Not being able to sign players waived during the regular season if their salary is above the mid-level exception
Not being able to take back more salary than they send out in trades
Not being able to use trade exceptions created in the previous season

Second apron
Teams that exceed the second apron, which is about 134.4% of the salary cap, face even more restrictions, including:
Not being able to use the mid-level exception
Not being able to trade multiple players in the same deal
Not being able to sign-and-trade their own players to acquire others
Not being able to send out cash in any trades
Having their first-round draft pick frozen seven years out if they exceed the second apron at the end of the regular season

Penalties
Teams that bypass the second apron twice in five years face even more restrictions, including their pick automatically becoming the last pick in the first round

The trade deadline may or may not change things.

[HarthorneWingo]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

[Jalen Bluntson]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Jesus Christ those trades are pointless and terrible. KFTV is bugging! Camara is the only player out of ALL of them that I have any interest in. We have our own rookies to develop. Mitch is a much better player than Timelord. Dude is just as injury prone as Mitch anyway. Hell no. Jonas is a good player at his price but, he doesn't bring ANYTHING Mitch brings on defense. We give THEM picks for that trash deal? These are terrible trades.

[HarthorneWingo]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Jesus Christ those trades are pointless and terrible. KFTV is bugging! Camara is the only player out of ALL of them that I have any interest in. We have our own rookies to develop. Mitch is a much better player than Timelord. Dude is just as injury prone as Mitch anyway. Hell no. Jonas is a good player at his price but, he doesn't bring ANYTHING Mitch brings on defense. We give THEM picks for that trash deal? These are terrible trades.

Yup. I would rather wait for Shamet and Mitch to come back and go with that. There’s not much we can do I’m afraid.

[G_K_F]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Can we package players together? I thought we were restricted from doing that.

[HarthorneWingo]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Can we package players together? I thought we were restricted from doing that.

[douggood]

Can we package players together? I thought we were restricted from doing that.

yes knicks are allowed to package players (cant do that if you are in second apron)

[JayTWill]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Can we package players together? I thought we were restricted from doing that.

The Knicks are under the second apron. They can package players but they can't take on more salary than they send out.

[Jalen Bluntson]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Jesus Christ those trades are pointless and terrible. KFTV is bugging! Camara is the only player out of ALL of them that I have any interest in. We have our own rookies to develop. Mitch is a much better player than Timelord. Dude is just as injury prone as Mitch anyway. Hell no. Jonas is a good player at his price but, he doesn't bring ANYTHING Mitch brings on defense. We give THEM picks for that trash deal? These are terrible trades.

Yup. I would rather wait for Shamet and Mitch to come back and go with that. There’s not much we can do I’m afraid.

Well, there's plenty we can do if we aren't committed to the current roster. We have plenty of players with value we can deal. The market dictates everything on that front.

We could certainly make some small moves to improve the bench. We aren't handcuffed like we have been for decades. We have a championship level core. I assume they are gonna slow play it and see what happens when Shamet/Mitch comes back.

As much as we all would love to solidify the bench with the cream of the crop, I think the team is not as impatient as the fans. This much is evident seeing them allow Thibs to run his ridiculous rotations while we all wait.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Can we package players together? I thought we were restricted from doing that.

yes knicks are allowed to package players (cant do that if you are in second apron)

Yes. I read some bad Intel earlier that made me think we can't aggregate salaries anymore. Not sure if we can combine minimum salaries though. Is that allowed?

[KnixinSix]

Jesus Christ those trades are pointless and terrible. KFTV is bugging! Camara is the only player out of ALL of them that I have any interest in. We have our own rookies to develop. Mitch is a much better player than Timelord. Dude is just as injury prone as Mitch anyway. Hell no. Jonas is a good player at his price but, he doesn't bring ANYTHING Mitch brings on defense. We give THEM picks for that trash deal? These are terrible trades.

Yup. I would rather wait for Shamet and Mitch to come back and go with that. There’s not much we can do I’m afraid.

Well, there's plenty we can do if we aren't committed to the current roster. We have plenty of players with value we can deal. The market dictates everything on that front.

We could certainly make some small moves to improve the bench. We aren't handcuffed like we have been for decades. We have a championship level core. I assume they are gonna slow play it and see what happens when Shamet/Mitch comes back.

As much as we all would love to solidify the bench with the cream of the crop, I think the team is not as impatient as the fans. This much is evident seeing them allow Thibs to run his ridiculous rotations while we all wait.

At this point the urgency for the right kind of Center to complete the defense is so evident, I don't think they get rid of Mitch. I think they will keep Mitch and add a 2nd rim protector type to him. Who would that be? Well his cost would have to be low to make it work.

[dukeknicksirish]

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Him, Martin and Richards please and thank you

[thebuzzardman]

Sims and a pick for young SF/PF who doesn't suck.

Or, just play Dadiet

[sol537]

I think Mitch and Shamet return by around 1/21/25 and then we have a short evaluation period before we decide on a deadline trade. We may just stand pat if Mitch looks healthy enough...

[BKlutch]

Sims and a pick for young SF/PF who doesn't suck.

Or, just play Dadiet

They can't play Dadiet until February 26.

Spoiler:

That's February 2026. Because he's a rookie for 1 ½ years, according to Thibs.

[dakomish23]

KnicksFanTV posted a video of possible trade scenarios:

1. Knicks trade Sims, Kolek, and 2025 protected first round pick (Wash) to Portland for Dalano Banton and Toumani Camara.

2. Knicks trade Mitch and 3 picks to the Wizards for Valanciunan, Patrick Baldwin (no relation to Alec Baldwin or Adam Baldwin), and a 2030 SRP

3. Knicks trade Mitch, Sims and picks to Portland for Robert Williams III and Kris Murray.

Watch on YouTube

I am a Kris Murray fan from his college days so I would be interested in pursuing him. If we can keep Mitch and just go after 2nd draft guys who thrive b/c not much is asked of them outside playing a small role, that might fix some of our issues. Kris Murray is a 3&D wing in theory but the 3 part hasn't translated in the NBA.

Overview

Kris Murray moved firmly onto the draft radar in 2022-23. Jumping from 9.7 points in his sophomore season to 20.7 points in his junior season, Murray’s third-year breakout earned him a spot on First Team All-Big 10 and All-American honors. In addition to his scoring, Murray averaged 7.9 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, 1.0 steals and a 1.33 assist-to-turnover ratio. Murray and his twin brother, Keegan of the Sacramento Kings, were unranked recruits coming out of high school. They then took a gap year at DME Academy to further develop before blossoming at Iowa. Their father, Kenyon Murray, played for Iowa from 1992-1996.

Analysis

Murray has a lanky, athletic frame with a knack for making winning plays. His hustle, rebounding, and reliable defense make him a plug-and-play contributor regardless of system. Most of Murray’s offensive game occurs around the basket and beyond the arc. The forward shot 33.5% on 6.8 3-point attempts per game. It’s a simple yet productive style.

Projection

Murray profiles as a glue guy and mid-rotation player. In the same way Christian Braun plays quality minutes for Denver in the playoffs, a team could be interested in Murray joining the rotation immediately. A two-way, stretch-four is a coveted need for many teams. Comparing him to his brother is stereotypical but accurate.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2023/prospects/kris-murray

[knicksstuff]

Myles Turner will be Knick if the Pacers keep going down this path

[HarthorneWingo]

Myles Turner will be Knick if the Pacers keep going down this path

LOL for the last 5 years Myles was supposed to be a Knick