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Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade?

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Kuminga or Wiggins - who would you trade for a player like Kuzma (or other)

1 - Kuminga
14
78%
2 - Wiggins
4
22%
 
Total votes: 18

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Re: Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade? 

Post#21 » by TrueFan420 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:06 pm

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CDM_Stats wrote:First off, you'd be entirely surprised at how many puppies I'd allow to be kicked before i finally caved and took Kuzma on this team for free. It would be on par with Michael Vick levels of heartlessness. And I'll joke about that long before I'd ever joke about Kuzma on the Warriors

If I was trading for a veteran, I'd be trading JK. If I was rebuilding, AND if the offer was worth its salt, I'd trade Wiggins. But the thing is that if the team was rebuilding, you don't trade from the middle at first. You trade from the top, and then let the middle guys try and rise up and increase value

So JK is the far more likely option to be dealt obviously, but unless Kerr goes into the default mode of last year where he's just starting based on feel and it clearly isn't working, I dont see much of a need, or personal desire, to trade JK. This is one of the last years he'll probably be valued correctly as a bench scorer with upside.. take advantage of that. Its one of the last years the team will even be in the realm of contention, so why? There's no way they can get an impact player for him without gutting the team, and 1 for 1 his salary wont get anyone worth it back

That's why the whole "2nd star" idea is **** stupid. It was fine in the offseason with CP3 as ballast, but now it will just be something damaging and pointless. If this team is going to go anywhere, it will be like the 03-04 Pistons where they add another really good role player and ride a deep team to relevancy. All I want is Schroder while keeping JK... it should be low risk asset-wise and potentially impactful roster-wise


that's a different way to look at the kuminga situation that I haven't thought about before.
The only issue I have with that is that if there is no intention to extend him (and, as for today, he' hasn't shown he is worth the 35Mx5 he's seeking), you will lose him for nothing. It's still better to trade him than seeing him walk away for nothing next summer or paying him the bag he's seeking.
unless, of course, he improves his all-around game and/or lower his extension request.

I mean we can always match any offer he gets. We’d then have to wait to move him but it won’t be out of the realm of possibility. The question just becomes, is it worth matching at all costs or letting him walk and adding a middle level player more effective.
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Re: Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade? 

Post#22 » by superunknown » Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:31 pm

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superunknown wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:First off, you'd be entirely surprised at how many puppies I'd allow to be kicked before i finally caved and took Kuzma on this team for free. It would be on par with Michael Vick levels of heartlessness. And I'll joke about that long before I'd ever joke about Kuzma on the Warriors

If I was trading for a veteran, I'd be trading JK. If I was rebuilding, AND if the offer was worth its salt, I'd trade Wiggins. But the thing is that if the team was rebuilding, you don't trade from the middle at first. You trade from the top, and then let the middle guys try and rise up and increase value

So JK is the far more likely option to be dealt obviously, but unless Kerr goes into the default mode of last year where he's just starting based on feel and it clearly isn't working, I dont see much of a need, or personal desire, to trade JK. This is one of the last years he'll probably be valued correctly as a bench scorer with upside.. take advantage of that. Its one of the last years the team will even be in the realm of contention, so why? There's no way they can get an impact player for him without gutting the team, and 1 for 1 his salary wont get anyone worth it back

That's why the whole "2nd star" idea is **** stupid. It was fine in the offseason with CP3 as ballast, but now it will just be something damaging and pointless. If this team is going to go anywhere, it will be like the 03-04 Pistons where they add another really good role player and ride a deep team to relevancy. All I want is Schroder while keeping JK... it should be low risk asset-wise and potentially impactful roster-wise


that's a different way to look at the kuminga situation that I haven't thought about before.
The only issue I have with that is that if there is no intention to extend him (and, as for today, he' hasn't shown he is worth the 35Mx5 he's seeking), you will lose him for nothing. It's still better to trade him than seeing him walk away for nothing next summer or paying him the bag he's seeking.
unless, of course, he improves his all-around game and/or lower his extension request.

I mean we can always match any offer he gets. We’d then have to wait to move him but it won’t be out of the realm of possibility. The question just becomes, is it worth matching at all costs or letting him walk and adding a middle level player more effective.


yes, this is a possible scenario.
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Re: Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade? 

Post#23 » by WarriorGM » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:55 pm

You don't trade either of them unless you're getting Jokic or Giannis.
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Re: Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade? 

Post#24 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:38 am

If we are holding jk out of trade talks and prioritizing him yet not willing to pay his asking piece. What are we doing?

He isnt a bad player, but his value is all over the place from a 1st to giannis.
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Re: Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade? 

Post#25 » by East Bay Sports » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:31 pm

I think he's a bad player.
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Re: Kuminga or Wiggins - who'd you trade? 

Post#26 » by TB » Thu Dec 19, 2024 5:55 pm

If and when Kuminga gets traded, local radio is going to be must listen... people flipped out with the Monta trade and that brought back Bogut...

I think we'd get more wins if we traded Kuminga straight up for Kenrich Williams. Could you imagine the fan reaction if he was traded for Kenrich and a pick? Also, the Thunder probably wouldn't do that.

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