Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

[redslastlaugh]

Just spitballing, and I'm not even sure I like it, but...

Springer and BOS 25 first for Curry and 25 NOP 2nd from CHA.

Save money, get a guy that can shoot / Joe might play as a 4th guard when White or Jrue rest.

You move back 2-5 spots in the draft max, get off the guaranteed contract and have most likely the first 2 picks in round 2. With the move back, it's almost one spot less since we have 31 as well, so you're not behind an extra team. Instead of 27-29 & 31 you're 31, 32.

Downside is it screws us for trading UP in the draft.
Also, I'm not sure how toast Seth is on D - not like he was a stalwart in his prime even.
Non-starter deal if Joe won't play him. But, it would be nice to have a 4th guard he will actually use.

I remember Curry getting absolutely destroyed by Kevin Huerter in the playoffs the year Ben Simmons melted down and ATL made the conference finals… so I don’t know if Seth Curry is the guy, but he’d be more effective than Springer I’m willing to bet.

But I do like the idea of Springer plus our 1st for a more productive player plus a high 2nd. In our tax situation pick 32 might be better than pick 28 because 2nd rounders are most cost effective than late firsts. So that’s an intriguing idea, imo

[djFan71]

Just spitballing, and I'm not even sure I like it, but...

Springer and BOS 25 first for Curry and 25 NOP 2nd from CHA.

Save money, get a guy that can shoot / Joe might play as a 4th guard when White or Jrue rest.

You move back 2-5 spots in the draft max, get off the guaranteed contract and have most likely the first 2 picks in round 2. With the move back, it's almost one spot less since we have 31 as well, so you're not behind an extra team. Instead of 27-29 & 31 you're 31, 32.

Downside is it screws us for trading UP in the draft.
Also, I'm not sure how toast Seth is on D - not like he was a stalwart in his prime even.
Non-starter deal if Joe won't play him. But, it would be nice to have a 4th guard he will actually use.

I remember Curry getting absolutely destroyed by Kevin Huerter in the playoffs the year Ben Simmons melted down and ATL made the conference finals… so I don’t know if Seth Curry is the guy, but he’d be more effective than Springer I’m willing to bet.

But I do like the idea of Springer plus our 1st for a more productive player plus a high 2nd. In our tax situation pick 32 might be better than pick 28 because 2nd rounders are most cost effective than late firsts. So that’s an intriguing idea, imo

Yeah, we're on the same page with the thought process / hesitancy. D is definitely the worry. But, otoh, it's mainly a regular season minutes type deal. Nobody we get for Springer is going to play any significant minutes in the playoffs.

Besides, can anyone realistically be expected to stop Kevin Huerter????

[redslastlaugh]

lol… can only hope to contain him, lol

[phincsfan]

Just spitballing, and I'm not even sure I like it, but...

Springer and BOS 25 first for Curry and 25 NOP 2nd from CHA.

Save money, get a guy that can shoot / Joe might play as a 4th guard when White or Jrue rest.

You move back 2-5 spots in the draft max, get off the guaranteed contract and have most likely the first 2 picks in round 2. With the move back, it's almost one spot less since we have 31 as well, so you're not behind an extra team. Instead of 27-29 & 31 you're 31, 32.

Downside is it screws us for trading UP in the draft.
Also, I'm not sure how toast Seth is on D - not like he was a stalwart in his prime even.
Non-starter deal if Joe won't play him. But, it would be nice to have a 4th guard he will actually use.

IMO, the C's 1st can turn into two 2nds on draft day. I'd rather that then get stuck watching Curry ride the bench for just one 2nd. He may play some in the regular season, but he'll be a waste in the post season. I'd pay attention to the teams with multiple 2nds like Char, Was and LAL on draft day. If Stevens has targets that are falling to the 2nd I bet some sneaky good moves can be made with that 25' 1st.

[playa-hater]

Although Stevens is a bit handcuffed with salary Cap issues, I do wonder If Stevens is watching this lack-luster play and thinking that he may need to do something.

But It's going to have to be Big enough for Joe to actually use them.

[Hal14]

Just spitballing, and I'm not even sure I like it, but...

Springer and BOS 25 first for Curry and 25 NOP 2nd from CHA.

Save money, get a guy that can shoot / Joe might play as a 4th guard when White or Jrue rest.

You move back 2-5 spots in the draft max, get off the guaranteed contract and have most likely the first 2 picks in round 2. With the move back, it's almost one spot less since we have 31 as well, so you're not behind an extra team. Instead of 27-29 & 31 you're 31, 32.

Downside is it screws us for trading UP in the draft.
Also, I'm not sure how toast Seth is on D - not like he was a stalwart in his prime even.
Non-starter deal if Joe won't play him. But, it would be nice to have a 4th guard he will actually use.

Seth Curry seems more like a potential buyout target than a guy I'd trade a 1st round pick for..

[Fierce1]

A report I saw says teams are not giving up 1st rnd picks.

So I don't think Brad will trade a 1st rounder this season.

Maybe in June, but not on or before trade deadline.

[djFan71]

Just spitballing, and I'm not even sure I like it, but...

Springer and BOS 25 first for Curry and 25 NOP 2nd from CHA.

Save money, get a guy that can shoot / Joe might play as a 4th guard when White or Jrue rest.

You move back 2-5 spots in the draft max, get off the guaranteed contract and have most likely the first 2 picks in round 2. With the move back, it's almost one spot less since we have 31 as well, so you're not behind an extra team. Instead of 27-29 & 31 you're 31, 32.

Downside is it screws us for trading UP in the draft.
Also, I'm not sure how toast Seth is on D - not like he was a stalwart in his prime even.
Non-starter deal if Joe won't play him. But, it would be nice to have a 4th guard he will actually use.

Seth Curry seems more like a potential buyout target than a guy I'd trade a 1st round pick for..

It's technically trading a 1st round pick, but it's really only losing 2-3 spots. And it's about the Springer money and Seth combined. But, I'm definitely not sold on it.

I wonder what the buyout market looks like. Can't imagine we're on the top of anyone's list. Seems like Springer himself could have been useful last night against Maxey. Quick guard torching us, Jrue out, Pritchard off, Jaden knows Maxey's tendencies from being on the same team - still couldn't get any PT.

[djFan71]

Just spitballing, and I'm not even sure I like it, but...

Springer and BOS 25 first for Curry and 25 NOP 2nd from CHA.

Save money, get a guy that can shoot / Joe might play as a 4th guard when White or Jrue rest.

You move back 2-5 spots in the draft max, get off the guaranteed contract and have most likely the first 2 picks in round 2. With the move back, it's almost one spot less since we have 31 as well, so you're not behind an extra team. Instead of 27-29 & 31 you're 31, 32.

Downside is it screws us for trading UP in the draft.
Also, I'm not sure how toast Seth is on D - not like he was a stalwart in his prime even.
Non-starter deal if Joe won't play him. But, it would be nice to have a 4th guard he will actually use.

IMO, the C's 1st can turn into two 2nds on draft day. I'd rather that then get stuck watching Curry ride the bench for just one 2nd. He may play some in the regular season, but he'll be a waste in the post season. I'd pay attention to the teams with multiple 2nds like Char, Was and LAL on draft day. If Stevens has targets that are falling to the 2nd I bet some sneaky good moves can be made with that 25' 1st.

Most likely we ride with what we got since nobody available under Springer $ would crack the rotation. I'd be more than happy with a Champagnie, Eason, and a few others, just don't see them as very available. But, that first and Springer should be available if we can get a guy Joe will play.

I'd be surprised if we end up with 3 2nds in the same draft, though. More likely we restock future 2nds.

[Parliament10]

https://gleague.nba.com/key-dates

December 27: NBA G League 34-game Regular Season begins
January 5, 2025: 10-Day Contracts may now be signed

I wonder if Stevens gives some of the Maine Celtics 10-Day Contracts?

[return2glory]

Bring back Lonnie Walker already.

[playa-hater]

Hmmm.. Devin Vassell finally returned to playing and starting for SAS. That move is not unexpected. But Julian Champagnie, who has played well, was demoted to make room. SAS still has Zach Collins, Castle and K Johnson on their bench.

I have No idea of Brad's interest level in Julian Champagnie, But I do believe a 1st + Springer can get it done. Dirt cheap and very young talent with a good amount of game experience at a Position, one would think, Joe would/could use. Though I do like Walsh and Peterson, it just seems like JC Fits this year much better.

Brad, please get me D White 2.0..

[redslastlaugh]

Hmmm.. Devin Vassell finally returned to playing and starting for SAS. That move is not unexpected. But Julian Champagnie, who has played well, was demoted to make room. SAS still has Zach Collins, Castle and K Johnson on their bench.

I have No idea of Brad's interest level in Julian Champagnie, But I do believe a 1st + Springer can get it done. Dirt cheap and very young talent with a good amount of game experience at a Position, one would think, Joe would/could use. Though I do like Walsh and Peterson, it just seems like JC Fits this year much better.

Champagnie would be an option, but I think it’d cost a 1st or even more. I don’t know about him at that price.

Shake Milton had 16pts/12assts and was +7 as a starter in the Nets loss to the Spurs. Could you get Milton for an out 2nd, like 2030? Shake averaged 15pts in the bubble playoffs starting for Philly the year we swept them. Is Champagnie significantly better than him? Even Svi Mihailyk over in Utah has been playing well and we could probably get him for Jaden Springer straight up plus giving Danny the rights back to Yam Madar…

So I like Champagnie but I’m not convinced I’d want to pay a big price for him.

[Fierce1]

Julian Champagnie is not only for the present, he could be a future replacement for Jrue.

Don't know what Brad thinks of Champagnie, but I think he's worth it if the price is a 1st rnd pick.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

They need to make some type of move with Hauser struggling so much this season. Hopefully, it's as simple as packaging Springer with a decent second and bringing back Walker. Sweet and simple and fills their need...

[phincsfan]

Spurs are definitely trending up and their cap situation is solid. I floated the Champagnie idea thinking they’d be a good candidate to tank for Flagg. They’re obviously not thinking that. They’ll be able to afford Champagnie easily in a couple of years.

[Dogen]

Julian's brother Justin Champagnie could look good in a return to Celtics too. 31 and 10 vs the Knicks tonight.
https://bleacherreport.com/videos/632725-justin-champagnie-goes-for-31

[Celts17Pride]

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[Dogen]

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Whatever happened to the saying: "Never give a sucker an even Shake?"

Looks like a decent trade for both teams really.

[playa-hater]

At this point I don't think we can just stay the same. Staying with the status quo won't get it done this year. This team needs a boost somehow.

And while I like lonnie walker I think we need a bigger one than just getting him.

Although that would not be a bad start.