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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#41 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:23 am

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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#42 » by Plossum » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:31 am

Is it just me or is Bobby going over that screen and not under? If AJ doesn’t switch there then Simmons has an open runway to the rim.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#43 » by BUCKnation » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:34 am

Plossum wrote:Is it just me or is Bobby going over that screen and not under? If AJ doesn’t switch there then Simmons has an open runway to the rim.

Yeah thats how i see it, if aj switches back thats a drew gooden lane to the hoop with bobby trailing
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#44 » by Packbuckman » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:48 am

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Packbuckman wrote:He’s 22 yrs old making his first starts in nba I am not saying he’s starting we have Dame for that the other guy had zero points and was out there when they went on their run to take the lead. These young players are only going to get better with playing time so they are ready for the playoffs. Good luck on getting someone better for that insurance than Rollins because wright should never play. And that was a bull call on Rollins for that turnover at the end of half. Some of you guys over react so much on these young guys of course they are going have their up and downs most young players do. We have done so good with these old vets we bring in let’s get another one **** that!


Look in the mirror. You're admitting you're the one overreacting to any positive play because of his age. That shouldn't gain a player a handicap. We're a contending team, not a rebuilding one. They need to be better than their alternative now. And they often are, because we need to have a footspeed balance. But there are games where it doesn't work, & this was one, which you aren't acknowledging. So we could adjust accordingly.

Pat is an example of a guy who seldom turns the ball over against pressure. His career high is 0.8 per game. This season his individual game high is 2. He hasn't had a negative assist to TO rate since 16 games ago. Rollins was a negative & had 4 today. So this is a game for some of the time we could have used Pat in addition to or at the expense of Rollins. All Khris, Wright, & Rollins had problems v. pressure.

But that’s one aspect of the game your overlooking all the positives that these young players have over a player like Pat like being able to stay in front of your player your guarding which Pat can’t do to save his life anymore. The turnover ratio will get better as young players get comfortable Ajax looks so much more since the increase in playing time older players like Wright Pat Prince aren’t getting any faster. That’s why our Defense is better with these young players. Middleton had some stupid turnovers down the stretch that cost us the game as much as a Rollins did same with wright who is unplayable I rather play AJ Johnson in his place last nite he at least will learn and get better.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#45 » by pifhluk23 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:27 pm

BigO wrote:
Turd Ferguson wrote:Brook 20minutes
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I'd worry more about this than who is playing SG in the playoffs.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#46 » by jschligs » Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:45 pm

AJ Green, while awesome, definitely still is young. These moments are big for him. Same with AJAX. These guys need to get this game time so that they can iron out these mistakes for the playoffs if they want to see time on the court.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#47 » by Frank Nova » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:00 pm

I like Noah Clowney. He’s been 1 of my under the radar trade targets since the off season. He’s a very underrated stretch 4 and would be perfect in Giannis at center lineups. I’d imagine his price tag is moving in the wrong direction for us now since he’s had a nice stretch of games recently and is showing the league he can actually play. Maybe he caught Horst eye last night?

That was a winnable game but I think the magic of not having Dame and Giannis has worn off. Middleton as the only respectable closer on the roster won’t get it done 100% of the time…. Next.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#48 » by Bernman » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:29 pm

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Plossum wrote:Is it just me or is Bobby going over that screen and not under? If AJ doesn’t switch there then Simmons has an open runway to the rim.

Yeah thats how i see it, if aj switches back thats a drew gooden lane to the hoop with bobby trailing


I rescind my criticism of AJ at 2nd look. Bobby goes over, AJ has to stop Simmons from driving to the hoop, then Bob joins later to double team Simmons. He needs to peel off to Johnson at that point. Low I.Q. Bob. Needs to be in a pure switching scheme.

Green was on a positive on D, giving Johnson the most problems by getting close, moving his feet, & altering. He was actually 1 of our best rebounders. My issue was the O again. He's frustratingly inconsistent, cuz he can't get downhill & is All.Jumpers.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#49 » by BigO » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:55 pm

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Packbuckman wrote:Rollins is more than fine as a back pg we lost the lead when he was on bench and wright was a train wreck what game were u watching


"we lost the lead". He was -12 on the game. So that's revisionism.

You got to settle down w/ the fanboyism. You were overboard on Doc being braindead for not playing a guy more who was recovering from a dislocated shoulder and has a huge wrap on his arm. You're not level-headed when it comes to this guy.

I think he's got a future here, & might be a necessary evil even in the interim like Ajax because he improves mobility + handling. HOWEVER, he is diminished, & not proven for the playoffs so we could use better insurance than Delon freaking Wright. As for tonight, Ryan was part of the problem. He committed that backbreaking turnover at the end of the 1st half, giving them momentum going into the 2nd. He had 4 TO's against 3 assists & was 1-5 from 3. How is that helping the team?


Delon Wright and Taurean Prince were the top plus/minus for the game. That's how absurd +/- is.

I do agree that there's too much exuberance over the three young guys (Rollins, Ajax and Green). But the only way to see whether any of them are legitimate pieces in a playoff rotation are to test them now.

It gives Horst more information on whether he needs to make a move.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#50 » by chonestown » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:36 pm

AJ, AJ and Rollins are equivalent to 2.5 rotational players. The hope was not only one of those guys would emerge, but that "Doc" would play them enough to gauge their worth. I dunno man, I like that development.
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#51 » by bucksfansince88 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:07 pm

Just let AJ Johnson take his lumps in these types of games, Delon wright shouldn’t see the floor ever again. Turnovers and poor rotation management in the 2nd half cost us this one
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#52 » by Daver » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:21 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:Just let AJ Johnson take his lumps in these types of games, Delon wright shouldn’t see the floor ever again. Turnovers and poor rotation management in the 2nd half cost us this one



You going to let johnson play might as well have open tryouts then im sure theres someone on this board or in the city of milwaukee than can shoot defend better than johnson good god
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#53 » by bucksfansince88 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:25 pm

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bucksfansince88 wrote:Just let AJ Johnson take his lumps in these types of games, Delon wright shouldn’t see the floor ever again. Turnovers and poor rotation management in the 2nd half cost us this one



You going to let johnson play might as well have open tryouts then im sure theres someone on this board or in the city of milwaukee than can shoot defend better than johnson good god


I get it. We invested a 1st into the kid, I get he’s raw but he could’ve done a much better job than delon airballing 3s and turning it over. Much rather see that from the rook than a vet
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#54 » by SupremeHustle » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:50 pm

This thread is mad negative, man. Some of y'all must be forgetting that we are the 2024 NBA CHAMPS.

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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#55 » by chonestown » Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:15 pm

An underrated part of last night's viewing experience was an action shot centered on Ben Simmons serendipitously underscored by a Gruber ad chyron simply reading "INJURED?"
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Re: PG Nets: Bucks Choke 

Post#56 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:01 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:
Daver wrote:
bucksfansince88 wrote:Just let AJ Johnson take his lumps in these types of games, Delon wright shouldn’t see the floor ever again. Turnovers and poor rotation management in the 2nd half cost us this one



You going to let johnson play might as well have open tryouts then im sure theres someone on this board or in the city of milwaukee than can shoot defend better than johnson good god


I get it. We invested a 1st into the kid, I get he’s raw but he could’ve done a much better job than delon airballing 3s and turning it over. Much rather see that from the rook than a vet


Wasn't Johnson out sick?

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