Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Trade Deadline 2/6/25 - 2:00 p.m. CDT

[msiris]

Hi guys,

Heat fan, here. I come in peace. Lol!

I see you guys speculating about potential Jimmy trades. I think it's been mentioned already but I think the deal is Jimmy for Portis and Middleton with Pat going to a third team.

I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.

Suns fan. I hope you guys send him to them. I have some little interest in Butler-and he'll fit better with MIL. Plus they can make that contract offer to re-up in the summer.

Is KD still happy there?

[fansinceforever]

Lavine has multiple years left on his deal. Keeping the roster we have isn't an option.

Get jimmy in here and if Horst can hold onto the '31 1st then maybe his rep starts to trend back up.

[-Jragon-]

The only thing that would be worse than trading for Butler would be trading for Lavine.

Although, I will say that I don't care too much as long as that 31 first isn't in any deal. I hope they're not stupid enough to include that for either of these guys.

Lottery protected, I'd consider using it for Jimmy ... just because I think it makes a 2nd ring for Giannis possible.. right now it's unlikely

[M-C-G]

You need at least 8 players going out to add Butler next to Dame/Midds/Giannis. It just can't happen.

Lopez, Bobby, Pat, Marjon, Jax make slightly more than Butler. That’s more like three pieces and salary (depending on your view of Ajax

It does transform the team mid season but I think that’s championship caliber rotation. Of course ideally you’d find a serviceable big that could spot start but have to think there will be buy out guys drooling to play with that roster.

Since you are combing salaries, you also have to send at least 6.5 mil more than what you receive to skip the 2nd apron. You need to combine Brook, Bobby, Pat, Johnson, Marjon, Wright, Prince, Livingston to get there and even that is not enough since you will have just 1.3 mil to fill 6 spots.

Can’t we sequence the transaction with Pat going first (somehow) and that takes us below the second apron and gives us more flexibility ? In order to do this deal we may need three or four teams which is a challenge all on its own

[BBallFreak]

Lavine has multiple years left on his deal. Keeping the roster we have isn't an option.

Get jimmy in here and if Horst can hold onto the '31 1st then maybe his rep starts to trend back up.

It's going to be very interesting to see what Miami can get with this Jimmy situation. I would imagine they'll try and get that pick but whether you should give it or not, if it's a sticking point, is really subjective. I mean, the defensive potential of Jimmy, Brook, and Giannis is disgusting, and playoff Jimmy is a real thing. Your potential for another ring is very real, but it's very real right now, so...

I'm sure the brain trust in charge of the Bucks has a price they're willing to pay.

[-Jragon-]

I have a conspiracy theory with Giannis and Dame. Starting with the observation that if you have a dynamic duo they pass back and forth to each other. Wade/Lebron/back to Wade, Kobe to Shaq back to Kobe, Jordan to Pippen back to Jordan... With Giannis and Dame it's Dame to Giannis and then he keeps the ball or his pass goes out to Brook or someone but very rarely does he look for Dame on the wing (who is often open).

So here's the conspiracy... Giannis decided he's MVP of the whole league and he knows that if he keeps hitting Dame off his gravity that Dame will get on a streak of games with 40 and 50 plus points which will take Giannis off the MVP ladder as pundits start giving Dame shout outs and question if Giannis is even the best Buck. Now I know what you're going to say... you're going to say that Giannis can see the corners easier since he attacks the basket and it would be harder to see Dame out at the wing open. I would also argue then that coaches should encourage him to seek that Dame pass for the better of the TEAM. Dame Time Dame gives us the best chance at a championship.

Furthermore; adding a real 3rd banana like Jimmy, who would likely be the best distributer/playmaker of the 3, might be a key to making everyone gel (like a Sam Cassell late in his career that just wanted to win).

[jschligs]

Lavine has multiple years left on his deal. Keeping the roster we have isn't an option.

Get jimmy in here and if Horst can hold onto the '31 1st then maybe his rep starts to trend back up.

It's going to be very interesting to see what Miami can get with this Jimmy situation. I would imagine they'll try and get that pick but whether you should give it or not, if it's a sticking point, is really subjective. I mean, the defensive potential of Jimmy, Brook, and Giannis is disgusting, and playoff Jimmy is a real thing. Your potential for another ring is very real, but it's very real right now, so...

I'm sure the brain trust in charge of the Bucks has a price they're willing to pay.

But the big thing with the Jimmy trade is he wants a long term deal. And we're most likely not willing to have 3 players making big money like that. Which is why I wouldn't want to give up the first because if he decides to walk (which I'd be ok with to free up cap space next year), or even pick up his option, man we're in trouble if we don't have that first round pick.

[BBallFreak]

Lavine has multiple years left on his deal. Keeping the roster we have isn't an option.

Get jimmy in here and if Horst can hold onto the '31 1st then maybe his rep starts to trend back up.

It's going to be very interesting to see what Miami can get with this Jimmy situation. I would imagine they'll try and get that pick but whether you should give it or not, if it's a sticking point, is really subjective. I mean, the defensive potential of Jimmy, Brook, and Giannis is disgusting, and playoff Jimmy is a real thing. Your potential for another ring is very real, but it's very real right now, so...

I'm sure the brain trust in charge of the Bucks has a price they're willing to pay.

But the big thing with the Jimmy trade is he wants a long term deal. And we're most likely not willing to have 3 players making big money like that. Which is why I wouldn't want to give up the first because if he decides to walk (which I'd be ok with to free up cap space next year), or even pick up his option, man we're in trouble if we don't have that first round pick.

The counterpoint being that, you still have to entice Miami enough to cooperate. While I like Portis (not so into Middleton) I can't believe Miami would be in such a hurry to give you a better chance at a championship that they screw themselves over.

I think this is why Jimmy is still in Miami, personally.

[Ron Swanson]

You have a bunch of teams that are desperate to move these large salary guys for any sort of positive value they can then spin to the fanbase (Ingram, LaVine, Butler), and you've also got a bunch of teams with aging cores that are ripe for a desperation move (us, Golden State, Phoenix). I just think everyone's in bargain shopping mode right now with the 2nd apron stuff. Like, in years past, all these dudes probably would have gotten moved for a 1st round pick and prospect(s) by now.

Which is why there is an advantage in being aggressive in getting a deal done now as opposed to in a few weeks when a more asset rich team could enter the fray (I still think Houston is the winning bidder if they choose to be). Remember that this is ironically, exactly what happened to Miami when they over-confidently thought they had Dame in the bag. Slap some Top-5 protection on that 2031 1st and I have no issue throwing it in there if that's what gets it done. Again, assuming they really wanna go the Jimmy route.

[MickeyDavis]

I don't think Jimmy is going anywhere unless a team overpays (please don't let it be us). Miami has no leverage and I can't see Riley just dumping him.

[humanrefutation]

I have a sense that we're going to end up with Jimmy, possibly by the end of the week.

[wallus]

Bucks: P. Reed
Pistons: AJax, Pat

Bucks: Butler
Heat: Middleton, Lopez and Wright

[pifhluk23]

Hi guys,

Heat fan, here. I come in peace. Lol!

I see you guys speculating about potential Jimmy trades. I think it's been mentioned already but I think the deal is Jimmy for Portis and Middleton with Pat going to a third team.

I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.

My thoughts as well. Middleton/Portis end up on Heat, Connaughton ends up somewhere and our 2031 1st (hopefully top 5 protected) ends up with Miami or the team that takes Connaughton. Heat can sell that deal as Middleton and Portis both help you make the playoffs and they both are either off the books this year or next.

[Frank Nova]

This sounds like Supreme's wet dream.

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I'm a big Lavine fan. I think he's underrated. But I'm good on that contract, breh.

Underrated by who? An overpaid pseudo all star is a fair rating

[buckboy]

Bucks: P. Reed
Pistons: AJax, Pat

Bucks: Butler
Heat: Middleton, Lopez and Wright

99.9% sure Reed can't be traded. Someone will confirm that.

[Bernman]

I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.

Middleton is far superior to all those players, if healthy. The guy just averaged an efficient 25, 9, & 5 last postseason; which is close to prior postseasons. Herro averaged an inefficient 17/5/4. And I'd say Middleton's defense was OK, better than Herro's.

Can Middleton ever be that player again? I don't know (ankles seldom derail careers). That's why the Bucks would be trading him; for more assurance. Also, they could use the defensive upgrade w/ Dame & Brook (in certain match-ups) out there.

Conceding a 1st rd post-Giannis years, for a rental/old guy, is a deal-breaker though.

[Bernman]

Bucks: P. Reed
Pistons: AJax, Pat

Bucks: Butler
Heat: Middleton, Lopez and Wright

99.9% sure Reed can't be traded. Someone will confirm that.

Correct, he has a trade restriction thru the deadline, as a result of being waived midseason then re-signed. So that dream became a fantasy for us or any potential suitor.

[Frank Nova]

I’d hope we are shopping Delon Wright in trade talks and planning on opening up a roster spot for Ryan Rollins to convert full time. I like Jackson Jr as a defensive specialist and maybe he’ll become a 25mpg type of dude at some point but I like the prospect of Ryan Rollins being the best young all around talent on the roster and AJ Green a close 2nd….

[-Jragon-]

Delon is a disappointment... wonder what happened there

[Bernman]

I tend to think they're holding onto some of the riffraff like Marjon, Wright, etc.; to potentially include in a deal before the deadline that helps them get under the 2nd apron for aggregation purposes. Then they'd convert Rollins, because they'd be sending out more guys. But they'd have to make the trade before his 2-way clock runs out. I wonder if this is suppressing his inclusions.