2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Psubs]

Kleber for Olynyk is a good deal for us and them, but it needs their first rounder. That first rounder is a key piece because it could add another high potential piece to the Raptors. We could add someone like Thiero, Fleming, Karaban, or another wing that can address our defense and shooting concerns.

Kleber and 1st pick for Olynyk and 2025 2nd pick (Por)

If too much then make another trade first to get a worse 2nd pick.

Quality is better than quantity. The first round pick in the 20ish range would be a lot better. I would try and get their 2027 pick instead. I could see that team unraveling pretty hard.

Let's make it a 3-way sending Kleber and Davion to LAL for Gabe Vincent, JHS and a 2nd pick.

[Thaddy]

Kleber and 1st pick for Olynyk and 2025 2nd pick (Por)

If too much then make another trade first to get a worse 2nd pick.

Quality is better than quantity. The first round pick in the 20ish range would be a lot better. I would try and get their 2027 pick instead. I could see that team unraveling pretty hard.

Let's make it a 3-way sending Kleber and Davion to LAL for Gabe Vincent, JHS and a 2nd pick.

I'd rather have Kleber than Vincent and kill a roster spot. JHS isn't a nba level player, he's a dead weight sitting in a roster spot I can test ten days on. Kleber could bounce back or do a Temple role.

[djsunyc]

rj + davion for ingram + 2 frps.

reunite rj/zion

only re-sign ingram on a cheaper deal otherwise let him walk.

[gerrit4]

I can't see any of our vets (outside of Jak) getting us a first, but I wonder if a team would consider trading a late first for a vet and our Portland SRP. A team like Dallas might value the cost savings as well as the player.

[Thaddy]

I can't see any of our vets (outside of Jak) getting us a first, but I wonder if a team would consider trading a late first for a vet and our Portland SRP. A team like Dallas might value the cost savings as well as the player.

I would target 2nd round picks. Teams that hoard 1st rounders will eventually face a problem. No one wants to give guaranteed money to late picks anymore, 2nd rounders have a better contract structure.

The only reason I'd prefer a late 1st over an early 2nd is if I'm drafting a senior who can be plugged into a rotation right away. It gives a cheap source of need and balances a bad contract for the next 4 years.

Olynyk and Boucher are both good enough to grab multiple 2nds. I would look for something in the latter part of the decade. Eventually we'll see multiple 2nds for 1st deals.

[douggood]

mortiz wagner (out for season) + 2 future seconds, they have a lot of them for Boucher
raptors release wagner and he can rehab with orlando and sign with them in the offseason.

equivalent of dennis schroder trade
Schroder and 1 second for melton and 3 seconds.

[WhatsaTDot]

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Not sure what we can extrapolate for this as it relates to Poeltl's value. It feels like an overpay from Phoenix but they are in win now mode.

[Spida888]

mortiz wagner (out for season) + 2 future seconds, they have a lot of them for Boucher
raptors release wagner and he can rehab with orlando and sign with them in the offseason.

equivalent of dennis schroder trade
Schroder and 1 second for melton and 3 seconds.

I'd be down with this. Can DET actually use some PF depth to backup Tobias? I'd be interested in trading Boucher to get our own SRP back.

[dagger]

mortiz wagner (out for season) + 2 future seconds, they have a lot of them for Boucher
raptors release wagner and he can rehab with orlando and sign with them in the offseason.

equivalent of dennis schroder trade
Schroder and 1 second for melton and 3 seconds.

Wagner, like his brother, has been signed to an extension.

[navyblue]

mortiz wagner (out for season) + 2 future seconds, they have a lot of them for Boucher
raptors release wagner and he can rehab with orlando and sign with them in the offseason.

equivalent of dennis schroder trade
Schroder and 1 second for melton and 3 seconds.

Wagner, like his brother, has been signed to an extension.

has a team option

The veteran big man inked a two-year, $22MM contract with the club as a free agent this past summer, but his $11MM salary for 2025/26 is a team option.

[CazOnReal]

What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights

laker fanboy trade is all it is.

JHS is expiring salary. No downside.

Uh

Yes there's downside. Davion Mitchell is an RFA so you can at least retain him in the offchance he figures it out offensively. Plus he's still a great defender and seems to be a good locker room presence.

JHS is not good. At like...anything. And in the small chance he does pop off, guess what? Not only do you not have his Bird Rights (You get his Early Bird Rights which isn't the same thing) but he's an unrestricted free agent and can walk for nothing. At least with Davion, you're more or less guaranteed to have him around for his 2nd contract.

[CazOnReal]

I would target 2nd round picks. Teams that hoard 1st rounders will eventually face a problem. No one wants to give guaranteed money to late picks anymore, 2nd rounders have a better contract structure.

It's really not.

The Thunder have figured out a pretty elegant way to handle the "too many picks" situation, which is to trade even further into the future for teams looking to make moves along the margin i.e. they traded a pretty mediocre first to the Nuggets a few years ago for a Top-5 protected pick (It might have been a swap, I can't remember the specifics) and thus can keep kicking the can down the road.

[bartron_44]

I dont know what they are going to do, but with contracts like:

Brown- 23M
Boucher- 10.8M
Poeltl- 19M
Olynyk- 12.8M


Along with several good controllable young players and draft picks at their disposal….

I’d like to see them try to make a major move for another all-star level player that pairs well with Scottie Barnes (for more than this year).

[Mr Swagtastic]

rj + davion for ingram + 2 frps.

reunite rj/zion

only re-sign ingram on a cheaper deal otherwise let him walk.

Nobody is giving you 2 1sts for RJ and Mitchell let alone adding Ingram

[bballsparkin]

Jak is worth more than JV lmao. Do you seriously think had Purtle been a FA that he would have ended up on the worst team in the league for a 3 year $30M contract? Nah, he wouldn't have. In fact I reckon NO would have made sure they retained JP. That said maybe a team doesn't offer an attractive FRP for Jakob. If so, **** em.

[Tripod]

I dont know what they are going to do, but with contracts like:

Brown- 23M
Boucher- 10.8M
Poeltl- 19M
Olynyk- 12.8M


Along with several good controllable young players and draft picks at their disposal….

I’d like to see them try to make a major move for another all-star level player that pairs well with Scottie Barnes (for more than this year).

Too early for that move.

[Mister Ze]

Brown Olynyk Boucher don’t have much value at all. I definitely thought Brown would have been flipped by now.

The Raps lost the Siakam trade

[agkagk]

Brown Olynyk Boucher don’t have much value at all. I definitely thought Brown would have been flipped by now.

The Raps lost the Siakam trade

Perfect salary ballasts for a Jimmy butler trade.

[bobbyp3588]

rj + davion for ingram + 2 frps.

reunite rj/zion

only re-sign ingram on a cheaper deal otherwise let him walk.

Nobody is giving you 2 1sts for RJ and Mitchell let alone adding Ingram

I'm glad I don't look at the world through such negative lenses.

In what world is a 23yo who's reasonably locked up for three more years averaging 23/6/6 on decent efficiency with improving defence not worth 2 1sts?

[Thaddy]

rj + davion for ingram + 2 frps.

reunite rj/zion

only re-sign ingram on a cheaper deal otherwise let him walk.

Nobody is giving you 2 1sts for RJ and Mitchell let alone adding Ingram

I'm glad I don't look at the world through such negative lenses.

In what world is a 23yo who's reasonably locked up for three more years averaging 23/6/6 on decent efficiency with improving defence not worth 2 1sts?

In the world where most GMs think of him as a toxic contract because he's a SG that can't hit FTs/3pt shots and is the worst starting defensive player in the league. Barrett's numbers are empty calories.