2024-2025 Regular Season Game 43: Orlando Magic (23-19) at Boston Celtics (28-12) 7:00PM

[KillMonger]

One thing to me is clear, Suggs is really key to our identity at least defensively.......without him something missing

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yep... was told he was an overpaid roleplayer

Worth every penny

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[basketballRob]

Black has actually shot the 3 around 13% higher than TDS has for his career. Also, many of the attempts Black makes are heaves at the end of the shot clock.

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This means zip…sucking less at something is still sucking. He’s an irrelevant 3pt shooter to date. TdS is a shooter, just like Suggs and KCP are shooters…there’s a base level of volume before a player even enters the conversation.

Black has made more 3s and attempted more 3s than Da Silva.

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[zaymon]

Wow a lot of drama happened lately...... maybe better that i was mentally out for a while.

I think Mosley is not as bad as Redwood writes, but he has a lot of questions if not problems even starting last year. Our offense is bad and its not only on players. I think we played better before our offensive coordinator left for some WNBA team.
Being a "players coach" is good for a veteran team, but often destructive for a young team. He is also VERY hands on manager. Yelling every play, every game. Thats one of the worst types of managers who burn their empolyees with time and sap their confidence. We can see the signs already.
He has also a lot of positive attributes and its not like he want to play Cole Anthony. He was DNP when we were healty and its so hard to play good offense with selfish, very uninteligent pg (Cole has demanour of 7 year old). He was also limiting WCJ minutes which was right thing to do. He is slow to adjust but he is adjusting nonetheless.
On the other side i think Mosley takes credit from Franz Wagner genius who is not great becouse of Mosley but just as much despite him.
Mosley is not a bad coach, but i think this young roster is over his head. Still many nba coaches would do worse than him. I just dont see that he gives players confidence i see the opposite.

I like Weltman but he is also to blame. I was ok with bad drafting but resigning losers is too much even for me. Being around losers takes a toll on you and we have a lot of them. Fultz was very toxic, playing a victim and a loser. WCJ is even bigger of a loser i have no idea why we resigned him so early. Cole is a born loser and the least smart player on the team.
Moe is our only confident DOG. Franz and Suggs are very competetive but they often lack confidence in theor own skill. I am not sure what Paolo lacks but he lacks something important. I often think why you would tatoo "no pressure" on your forearm if you were truly confident. I actually think pressure weights painfully on his shoulders and he is feeling it.

[I Rasharted]

[Bergmaniac]

The defense was so bad in this one we'd have most likely lost with better shooting too, but it was still painful to watch another brick fest. Also, way too many possessions where we did nothing for the first 14 seconds and then had to rush things and ended up with a shot clock violation or a bid shot. Just an ugly game all around.

Black has actually shot the 3 around 13% higher than TDS has for his career. Also, many of the attempts Black makes are heaves at the end of the shot clock.

"Fun" fact - this season Black is actually shooting better from 3 with 0-4 seconds left on the shot clock (25%) than overall from 3 (24%).

[Skybox]

Black has actually shot the 3 around 13% higher than TDS has for his career. Also, many of the attempts Black makes are heaves at the end of the shot clock.

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This means zip…sucking less at something is still sucking. He’s an irrelevant 3pt shooter to date. TdS is a shooter, just like Suggs and KCP are shooters…there’s a base level of volume before a player even enters the conversation.

Black has made more 3s and attempted more 3s than Da Silva.

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What on Earth are you talking about? Like, in their whole lives?

AB…944 minutes played, 24.2 mpg, 22/92…24%
TdS…1002 minutes played, 25.7 mpg, 47/152…31%

[three3d]

I made a thread about Stotts months back even if it’s a 1 or 2 year rental I think it’s something that HAS TO BE DONE. Coaching contracts don’t count towards cap or apron do they? If not throw whatever money at Stotts he wants and let him help Coach Mo and the team out.

Terry Stotts' offensive coaching strengths lie in his ability to create a fluid, dynamic offense that utilizes a mix of structure and freedom, allowing players to make improvisational plays while still maintaining organization, particularly excelling at designing pick-and-roll schemes and maximizing the potential of high-scoring guards like Damian Lillard, often incorporating "flare" actions and pindown screens within his system; he is recognized for fostering a "synergy" within his offenses where multiple players can contribute offensively based on their strengths.

Key points about Stotts' offensive coaching:

Adaptability to star players:
Stotts has demonstrated a knack for tailoring his offense around a team's primary scorer, most notably building a system that maximized Damian Lillard's playmaking and shooting abilities in Portland.

Freedom within structure":
His offensive philosophy emphasizes providing players with options to create within a defined framework, allowing for improvisation while maintaining overall flow.

Pick-and-roll expertise:
Stotts is known for designing creative pick-and-roll actions, utilizing screens and movement to generate scoring opportunities for both the ball handler and the screener.

Flare" actions:
Incorporating unique, unpredictable movements like "flare screens" and pindown actions adds an element of randomness to his offense, making it difficult for defenses to predict where the ball will go.

Offensive versatility:
Stotts' teams have consistently ranked among the league's best offenses due to his ability to utilize multiple players' strengths and create scoring opportunities from various positions.

[Skybox]

The defense was so bad in this one we'd have most likely lost with better shooting too, but it was still painful to watch another brick fest. Also, way too many possessions where we did nothing for the first 14 seconds and then had to rush things and ended up with a shot clock violation or a bid shot. Just an ugly game all around.

Black has actually shot the 3 around 13% higher than TDS has for his career. Also, many of the attempts Black makes are heaves at the end of the shot clock.

"Fun" fact - this season Black is actually shooting better from 3 with 0-4 seconds left on the shot clock (25%) than overall from 3 (24%).

Hey stop with the fact-checking…last second heaves is supposed to be a “hazy” unquestionable excuse

Ironically, it used to be what Cole (allegedly) avoided to maintain his numbers, but he actually does it all the time. Btw, that is going back to when Cole was barely a viable NBA player 2 weeks ago…before he became “just as good as Simons/Sexton” now

“I’m not coming to the debate if there’s going to be fact-checking”

[basketballRob]

This means zip…sucking less at something is still sucking. He’s an irrelevant 3pt shooter to date. TdS is a shooter, just like Suggs and KCP are shooters…there’s a base level of volume before a player even enters the conversation.

Black has made more 3s and attempted more 3s than Da Silva.

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What on Earth are you talking about? Like, in their whole lives?

AB…944 minutes played, 24.2 mpg, 22/92…24%
TdS…1002 minutes played, 25.7 mpg, 47/152…31%

For his career. I already stated that.

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[three3d]

Terry Stotts as offensive guru for us and bringing in Anfernee Simons ( Stotts has coached Simons before in Portland) might be what takes us to the next level . Minimal addition player wise yet huge upgrade and a new assistant coach and we can run it back minis Garry Harris

[The-Stallion70]

Yall serious you wanna get rid of Mose?

[Skybox]

Yall serious you wanna get rid of Mose?

Nobody saying that

I get the concept but “defensive guru” paired with “offensive guru” is a tough path to negotiate…so much of our game begins with that wild ball pressure and resultant turnovers and forced shots late in the shot clock. I’d like to explore something like that, but there’d be a lot of potential for conflicting visions…it’d have to be a better offense built “around” the defense. I’d love to see more motion, more ball movement, more cutting without the ball, better picks, etc…interesting idea

I also wonder if Our guards tend to watch Paolo & Franz work because they’re grabbing a little breather between defensive efforts. Thats, perhaps, where Mose’s need for a 10 man rotation comes in…hockey-like. We really would be awesome with 4 starter-quality guards, playing near starter minutes…it’s easy to envision Sexton and AB coming in and maintaining the “pressure” the elite defensive starters, with Sexton’s contribution being more on the offensive side (probably with Isaac creating chaos along with AB).

[yoyojw17]

Yall serious you wanna get rid of Mose?

Ayyyyyy.... Finally found a comment that made sense to me. We lose to the Boston Celtics ....a healthy Boston Celtics.... Championship team from last year Boston Celtics.... And people are up in arms against the person that has wringed water out of stones. And in the past has had teams that have even beaten the Celtics when healthier.

Maybe get a better offensive coordinator.... Or hey.... Just like players... Coaches get better too. One thing he has though... Is a bunch of guys playing their butts off for him. And there are going to be games where they don't show up either. Matchups that frustrate the ish out of teams ..... It happens.

Its like an emotional rollercoaster on here and recency biases. We pull out a great win.... "Coach of the year" ... We lose in a game where it was probably be a miracle.... "We need to to replace him". Now if you want stotts to come in as an assistant.... I'm for it.

But relax guys!

Its like telling a fighter.... We're going to set you up in a match against a better fighter record wise and on paper right now.... And then tying one of your arms behind your back.... And then being mad that you lost the fight. Make that make sense.

But damned right if you pull a reverse backflip and hit to the jaw... Knocking the champion out... Praise that success!! But you lose.... "Good luck next time"

[Fortune Teller]

Mosley is a big reason why this team hasn’t folded with their best players out. You can’t blame him for Weltman’s refusal to add shooters when given the chance. With two lottery picks and all that cap space Welt added Black, Howard and KCP — two defensive specialists and a G-Leaguer. Now we wonder why we’re still bottom of the league in shooting?

[The-Stallion70]

Yall serious you wanna get rid of Mose?

Nobody saying that

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Ya they are

[OrlChamps2030]

Mosley is a big reason why this team hasn’t folded with their best players out. You can’t blame him for Weltman’s refusal to add shooters when given the chance. With two lottery picks and all that cap space Welt added Black, Howard and KCP — two defensive specialists and a G-Leaguer. Now we wonder why we’re still bottom of the league in shooting?

Agreed.

It seems like people don’t understand what an NBA coach actually does.

Mose cant make guys hit wide open threes against defenses camping the paint.

Mose didn’t give WCJ an extension after he lost his job as a starter

Mose didn’t draft Jett Howard over actual NBA players (nor did he choose to not trade the pick)

However.. Mose has coached this team to back to back elite defensive seasons and has them contending for home court advantage while having the team play greater than the sum of their parts

He’s definitely not perfect. But he’s a good coach

[Skybox]

Yall serious you wanna get rid of Mose?

Nobody saying that

.

Ya they are

Nuh uh

[Bergmaniac]

Mosley is a big reason why this team hasn’t folded with their best players out. You can’t blame him for Weltman’s refusal to add shooters when given the chance. With two lottery picks and all that cap space Welt added Black, Howard and KCP — two defensive specialists and a G-Leaguer. Now we wonder why we’re still bottom of the league in shooting?

KCP shot 39% or better from 3 in each of the previous 5 seasons and Jett was supposed to be a very good 3 point shooter with quick release and good size. IIRC there were plenty of questions about Jett's pick at the time, mostly whether he'd be able to defend at an NBA level, but I don't think anyone expected him to shoot this poorly in the NBA.

[The-Stallion70]

Mose didn’t draft Jett Howard over actual NBA players (nor did he choose to not trade the pick)

We really could have had Cam Whitmore

We probably could be contending right now but I fear Wektman struck out on too many picks over the years.

[KillMonger]

still can't get mose's body language after that shooting question out of my mind.....definitely starting to get to him....couldn't hide it