2024-2025 Regular Season Game 43: Orlando Magic (23-19) at Boston Celtics (28-12) 7:00PM

[RichCollab]

still can't get mose's body language after that shooting question out of my mind.....definitely starting to get to him....couldn't hide it

Seems like he picked up an illness. Everyone has been on overdrive with the injuries. I think that’s all part of it.

[pepe1991]

I am bit surprised nobody mentioned horrific body launguage of Paolo on defense in second half. In first half he made some mistakes, in second half he flat out gave up.
He had possession where he just elected not to guard Tatum corner 3, just turned his back and waited for shot, and 2 min later in defensive transition, he just walked back forcing us on 4 v 5 defense. Right after that Mosley took him out.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I am bit surprised nobody mentioned horrific body launguage of Paolo on defense in second half. In first half he made some mistakes, in second half he flat out gave up.
He had possession where he just elected not to guard Tatum corner 3, just turned his back and waited for shot, and 2 min later in defensive transition, he just walked back forcing us on 4 v 5 defense. Right after that Mosley took him out.

I’m sure he’s thrilled playing with G league talent and dudes who brick wide open 3’s. If the FO doesn’t do anything at deadline will be interesting if he speaks out again needing a playmaker/guard.

[pepe1991]

I am bit surprised nobody mentioned horrific body launguage of Paolo on defense in second half. In first half he made some mistakes, in second half he flat out gave up.
He had possession where he just elected not to guard Tatum corner 3, just turned his back and waited for shot, and 2 min later in defensive transition, he just walked back forcing us on 4 v 5 defense. Right after that Mosley took him out.

I’m sure he’s thrilled playing with G league talent and dudes who brick wide open 3’s. If the FO doesn’t do anything at deadline will be interesting if he speaks out again needing a playmaker/guard.

Yea but it's game brodcasted on ESPN and you are playing all star game defense , it's just bad look for him.
His defense leaves lot to be desired even when he tries. He is too young, too unproven to be playing Dirk & Kobe last year defense.

[RichCollab]

I am bit surprised nobody mentioned horrific body launguage of Paolo on defense in second half. In first half he made some mistakes, in second half he flat out gave up.
He had possession where he just elected not to guard Tatum corner 3, just turned his back and waited for shot, and 2 min later in defensive transition, he just walked back forcing us on 4 v 5 defense. Right after that Mosley took him out.

He was irritated by his eye. Lots of men down. I’m not reading much into it after a single game.

[three3d]

May 7th 1995, the day the Orlando Magic ( Nick Anderson ) messed with the Basketball God and forever altered the franchise’s future. You see when Nick stole the ball from Michael Jordan or as Larry Bird called him “ God disguised as Michael Jordan “ thus giving Jordan his first and only Playoff loss during the Bulls prime Jordan made a promise that Orlando will never win a Championships and shall be faced with a reminder always and forever. That moment came to fruition on June 7th 1995, one month exactly AFTER Nick stole that ball, Nick missed 4 consecutive free throws to put the Rockets away in game one of the Finals allowing the game to go to overtime and the Rockets to win.

Orlando would be reminded yet again of the consequences of one upping Jordan in the 2009 NBA Finals when yet again they lose the series to the LA Lakers because of controversy surrounding a guard. To this day we still face the painful and frustrating reminder as we watch a team set all time lows in 3 point efficiency and struggle with injuries in what had looked to be a promising young team led by two All Stars on the come up to becoming an Eastern Conference power house. We must make right by Michael Jordan to have this “curse” lifted lol…

[eyriq]

I am bit surprised nobody mentioned horrific body launguage of Paolo on defense in second half. In first half he made some mistakes, in second half he flat out gave up.
He had possession where he just elected not to guard Tatum corner 3, just turned his back and waited for shot, and 2 min later in defensive transition, he just walked back forcing us on 4 v 5 defense. Right after that Mosley took him out.

I’m sure he’s thrilled playing with G league talent and dudes who brick wide open 3’s. If the FO doesn’t do anything at deadline will be interesting if he speaks out again needing a playmaker/guard.

I think he's 100% behind AB. He consistently defers to him on inbound plays and lets him get the team into their sets. When AB isn't out there it's mostly Paolo doing those actions.

[Skybox]

I am bit surprised nobody mentioned horrific body launguage of Paolo on defense in second half. In first half he made some mistakes, in second half he flat out gave up.
He had possession where he just elected not to guard Tatum corner 3, just turned his back and waited for shot, and 2 min later in defensive transition, he just walked back forcing us on 4 v 5 defense. Right after that Mosley took him out.

I’m sure he’s thrilled playing with G league talent and dudes who brick wide open 3’s. If the FO doesn’t do anything at deadline will be interesting if he speaks out again needing a playmaker/guard.

I think he's 100% behind AB. He consistently defers to him on inbound plays and lets him get the team into their sets. When AB isn't out there it's mostly Paolo doing those actions.

As Crosby, Stills, and Nash said, "If you can't be with the one you love...love the one you're with"

[pepe1991]

I’m sure he’s thrilled playing with G league talent and dudes who brick wide open 3’s. If the FO doesn’t do anything at deadline will be interesting if he speaks out again needing a playmaker/guard.

I think he's 100% behind AB. He consistently defers to him on inbound plays and lets him get the team into their sets. When AB isn't out there it's mostly Paolo doing those actions.

As Crosby, Stills, and Nash said, "If you can't be with the one you love...love the one you're with"

Usually when grown up talks about 18-19 y.o. boy as much as eyriq does about AB, police gets involved.

Spoiler:

[basketballRob]

I hoped that when the injury report comes out later today that Goga's back. The roster seems more balanced with him playing. The last couple of games we had lineups with JI and 4 guards. Wendell seems useless without Isaac playing beside him.

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[RichCollab]

I hoped that when the injury report comes out later today that Goga's back. The roster seems more balanced with him playing. The last couple of games we had lineups with JI and 4 guards. Wendell seems useless without Isaac playing beside him.

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Suggs, Franz, and Goga are big missing holes on defense.

JI and Black seem great secondary defensive stoppers.

[eyriq]

I think he's 100% behind AB. He consistently defers to him on inbound plays and lets him get the team into their sets. When AB isn't out there it's mostly Paolo doing those actions.

As Crosby, Stills, and Nash said, "If you can't be with the one you love...love the one you're with"

Usually when grown up talks about 18-19 y.o. boy as much as eyriq does about AB, police gets involved.

Spoiler:

This is a perfect segue into a story that juxtaposes my personal life perfectly with conversations on this forum. I got my eight year old an AB jersey with matching shorts for Christmas (the matching shorts were there to incentivize wearing the jersey, his other jerseys don't match). I tell him that AB is one of the best young players in the league with a bright future and while he doesn't have the star power of Franz, Paolo, and Suggs right now it's just because he's much younger and it's good to get ahead of the curve. He hates the jersey, only wears Paolo and Franz. Says AB is a 76 or whatever in 2K and is hard to score with. I'm patient with him. I'm patient with y'all, too.

[three3d]

What if the answer to the question everyone is asking
( why are they shooting so bad? ) was really as simple as the coaching staff?

Hear me out, if you have a Ferrari are you going to take it to the Ford Dealership to maintenance it?

I ask you that to ask you this, how many of you watch the assistant coach interviews right before the start of the third-quarter? Any of those assistant’s strike you as a desirable coaching candidate for any other team around the league? Can anyone tell me anything about these guys? That coaching group ( excluding Mosley ) is another example of internal growth.

The evidence to its detriment to the team is out there on tape. Bottom line, you don’t try to try to teach and develop your staff the same time you’re trying to teach and develop your team. They can and SHOULD have a better more experienced staff.

[basketballRob]

What if the answer to the question everyone is asking
( why are they shooting so bad? ) was really as simple as the coaching staff?

Hear me out, if you have a Ferrari are you going to take it to the Ford Dealership to maintenance it?

I ask you that to ask you this, how many of you watch the assistant coach interviews right before the start of the third-quarter? Any of those assistant’s strike you as a desirable coaching candidate for any other team around the league? Can anyone tell me anything about these guys? That coaching group ( excluding Mosley ) is another example of internal growth.

The evidence to its detriment to the team is out there on tape. Bottom line, you don’t try to try to teach and develop your staff the same time you’re trying to teach and develop your team. They can and SHOULD have a better more experienced staff.

I'm leaning towards that they played without 6 rotation players, but nice lengthy rant.

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[three3d]

What if the answer to the question everyone is asking
( why are they shooting so bad? ) was really as simple as the coaching staff?

Hear me out, if you have a Ferrari are you going to take it to the Ford Dealership to maintenance it?

I ask you that to ask you this, how many of you watch the assistant coach interviews right before the start of the third-quarter? Any of those assistant’s strike you as a desirable coaching candidate for any other team around the league? Can anyone tell me anything about these guys? That coaching group ( excluding Mosley ) is another example of internal growth.

The evidence to its detriment to the team is out there on tape. Bottom line, you don’t try to try to teach and develop your staff the same time you’re trying to teach and develop your team. They can and SHOULD have a better more experienced staff.

I'm leaning towards that they played without 6 rotation players

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Lol you do know that excuse gets thrown out the window when you look at last seasons healthy roster and see we were damn near at the bottom of the league IN EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE STATISTIC right ? That excuse is as lazy as Weltman is.

[eyriq]

What if the answer to the question everyone is asking
( why are they shooting so bad? ) was really as simple as the coaching staff?

We've shot 1,592 threes. 78% of those have come from 9 players. KCP is the only one that is known to be a good 3 point shooter. With Jett we are hopeful that he is a good three point shooter as that is his entire stake on being an NBA player. With Suggs we are hopeful that his three point shooting is above average. With TDS we are hopeful he's an average 3 point shooter. Everyone else have known weaknesses from distance. This is a personnel issue, not a coaching issue.

1. Suggs - 15% of our threes at 31.2%
2. KCP - 13% of our threes at 31.7%
3. Franz - 10% of our threes at 32.1%
4. TDS - 10% of our threes at 30.9%
5. Cole - 7% of our threes at 30.3%
6. Jett - 7% of our threes at 30.7%
7. JI - 6% of our threes at 24.7%
8. AB - 6% of our threes at 23.9%
9. Moe - 5% of our threes at 36.0%

[three3d]

What if the answer to the question everyone is asking
( why are they shooting so bad? ) was really as simple as the coaching staff?

We've shot 1,592 threes. 78% of those have come from 9 players. KCP is the only one that is known to be a good 3 point shooter. With Jett we are hopeful that he is a good three point shooter as that is his entire stake on being an NBA player. With Suggs we are hopeful that his three point shooting is above average. With TDS we are hopeful he's an average 3 point shooter. Everyone else have known weaknesses from distance. This is a personnel issue, not a coaching issue.

1. Suggs - 15% of our threes at 31.2%
2. KCP - 13% of our threes at 31.7%
3. Franz - 10% of our threes at 32.1%
4. TDS - 10% of our threes at 30.9%
5. Cole - 7% of our threes at 30.3%
6. Jett - 7% of our threes at 30.7%
7. JI - 6% of our threes at 24.7%
8. AB - 6% of our threes at 23.9%
9. Moe - 5% of our threes at 36.0%

I don’t mean it as literally the coaching staff is making them shoot bad, more like allowing it to keep happening without changing the system. Having no offensive creativity at all or having the fortitude to tell them go get a layup or to do something easy to het themselves going. The staff lacks the experience possible to know how to get these guys going.

[basketballRob]

What if the answer to the question everyone is asking
( why are they shooting so bad? ) was really as simple as the coaching staff?

We've shot 1,592 threes. 78% of those have come from 9 players. KCP is the only one that is known to be a good 3 point shooter. With Jett we are hopeful that he is a good three point shooter as that is his entire stake on being an NBA player. With Suggs we are hopeful that his three point shooting is above average. With TDS we are hopeful he's an average 3 point shooter. Everyone else have known weaknesses from distance. This is a personnel issue, not a coaching issue.

1. Suggs - 15% of our threes at 31.2%
2. KCP - 13% of our threes at 31.7%
3. Franz - 10% of our threes at 32.1%
4. TDS - 10% of our threes at 30.9%
5. Cole - 7% of our threes at 30.3%
6. Jett - 7% of our threes at 30.7%
7. JI - 6% of our threes at 24.7%
8. AB - 6% of our threes at 23.9%
9. Moe - 5% of our threes at 36.0%

I don’t mean it as literally the coaching staff is making them shoot bad, more like allowing it to keep happening without changing the system. Having no offensive creativity at all or having the fortitude to tell them go get a layup or to do something easy to het themselves going. The staff lacks the experience possible to know how to get these guys going.

Or maybe the players lack experience.

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[Skybox]

We've shot 1,592 threes. 78% of those have come from 9 players. KCP is the only one that is known to be a good 3 point shooter. With Jett we are hopeful that he is a good three point shooter as that is his entire stake on being an NBA player. With Suggs we are hopeful that his three point shooting is above average. With TDS we are hopeful he's an average 3 point shooter. Everyone else have known weaknesses from distance. This is a personnel issue, not a coaching issue.

1. Suggs - 15% of our threes at 31.2%
2. KCP - 13% of our threes at 31.7%
3. Franz - 10% of our threes at 32.1%
4. TDS - 10% of our threes at 30.9%
5. Cole - 7% of our threes at 30.3%
6. Jett - 7% of our threes at 30.7%
7. JI - 6% of our threes at 24.7%
8. AB - 6% of our threes at 23.9%
9. Moe - 5% of our threes at 36.0%

I don’t mean it as literally the coaching staff is making them shoot bad, more like allowing it to keep happening without changing the system. Having no offensive creativity at all or having the fortitude to tell them go get a layup or to do something easy to het themselves going. The staff lacks the experience possible to know how to get these guys going.

Or maybe the players lack experience.

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shooting a basketball?

I'd like to find an easy solution to this crazy phenomenon, flick a switch and have EVERYBODY not suck at what they're good at...but I'm seeing a LOT of open, good quality, practice in the driveway type shots...I'm stumped

[basketballRob]

I don’t mean it as literally the coaching staff is making them shoot bad, more like allowing it to keep happening without changing the system. Having no offensive creativity at all or having the fortitude to tell them go get a layup or to do something easy to het themselves going. The staff lacks the experience possible to know how to get these guys going.

Or maybe the players lack experience.

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shooting a basketball?

I'd like to find an easy solution to this crazy phenomenon, flick a switch and have EVERYBODY not suck at what they're good at...but I'm seeing a LOT of open, good quality, practice in the driveway type shots...I'm stumped

We're led by 3 players on rookie contracts and have been injured this season more than they've played. It doesn't take rocket scientist to know we'd be in a funk.

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