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Post#441 » by Baphomet » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:09 pm

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Baphomet wrote:No idea. But pretty clear Ange has to go, and should've been sacked in December. One of the worst managers I've seen at this level and yet another blight on Levy's record.

In complete agreement, however, I'm shocked to hear so many still in support of him. Levy's just as culpable, though. And much of the emotion is directed his way, but he's not leaving (for better or worse). The one lever to pull, besides moving players, is changing the manager.


Levy is certainly at fault for a lot of things: the managerial recruitment has been incredibly poor during his tenure, with the exceptions of Pochettino and Redknapp, to a lesser extent. Conte and Mourinho are, or were in the latter case, excellent coaches, but quite poor fits at a club like Spurs due to their Chelsea connections and club culture. You could also argue that he didn't loosen the purse strings when he should have, when Spurs were on the cusp of achieving something under Pochettino, going an entire summer without reinforcing the squad.

Despite not liking the appointment I was happy to support Ange in his first season at the club because we had such a strong start and had built a little bit of credit up in the bank for that, as well as losing a talismanic figure like Kane, but the truth is we have been atrocious for well over a year now as teams adjusted to our style of play. Amateurish doesn't even begin to describe some of the things I've seen since then.

Take yesterday for example, we moved to a back 3 literally minutes before kick-off despite warming up with a back 4. He had Archie Gray bombing up the pitch, as a CB, and the wingbacks were sitting at the top of the pitch. Subsequently, we were leaving 30 yard gaps in between the lines, and got pumped by 3 goals in the first half by an Everton team that hadn't scored in 9 of their last 11 outings. Some, including Levy and the board, are presumably giving him leeway due to the club's current injury crisis, but the fact is that we were sitting in 10th before any major injuries. And you could argue that his ridiculous methods are contributing to that, egregiously bringing back Romero and Van de Ven prematurely vs. Chelsea, reinjuring both and extending their setbacks by months.

Put simply, this buffoon's methods and tactical ineptitude are dragging us into a relegation battle. Those still supporting him are showing typical cult-like behaviour in doubling down, refusing to look at the evidence and admitting they were wrong. What I'm hoping for is a new manager that can help galvanise the squad and show some coaching and tactical nous, getting the most out of our current players without being married to a sophomoric philosophy, akin to what Emery did at Villa after taking over from the floundering Gerrard. We're still in every competition, there is still time to turn this season around but the door is rapidly closing.
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Post#442 » by The_Brecht » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:04 pm

Another baffling red card you'll never see again.
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Post#443 » by MaliBrah » Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:58 pm

I hope everyone understands that Howard Webb and Michael Oliver are just terrible and dishonest human beings

positive is we survived it this time and the media is laying into that fool Oliver.
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Post#444 » by MetalFingaz » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:02 am

That was a poor call. From one angle it looked like a stamping motion but on replay it was clearly just a yellow. Overshadows all the cards Arsenal should get for simulation when they fall to the floor with 0 contact.
It's time for 5 refs.
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Post#445 » by Baseline81 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:17 pm

What is Tottenham doing? Begin the second half up 1-0 and within the first five minutes go behind to Leicester. That second goal... all the space in the world.
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Post#446 » by Baphomet » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:06 pm

Baseline81 wrote:What is Tottenham doing? Begin the second half up 1-0 and within the first five minutes go behind to Leicester. That second goal... all the space in the world.


There is no doubt that this team is exhausted, injured and running on fumes, desperately needing reinforcements that haven't come. However, we would be remiss to ignore the dangerous incompetence of this manager, it should be visible on the pitch for everyone to see. We are getting out-thought and outworked by everyone. 1 win in 12 now.
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Post#447 » by Wisky4life » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:11 pm

A win is a win for United. Even how bad or boring we are playing.

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Post#448 » by Baseline81 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:53 pm

MaliBrah wrote:I hope everyone understands that Howard Webb and Michael Oliver are just terrible and dishonest human beings

positive is we survived it this time and the media is laying into that fool Oliver.

Understand your frustration.

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Post#449 » by MaliBrah » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:40 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:I hope everyone understands that Howard Webb and Michael Oliver are just terrible and dishonest human beings

positive is we survived it this time and the media is laying into that fool Oliver.

Understand your frustration.

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my brother is an LFC fan. we were shocked that wasn't a pen , that win could have propelled liverpool into a stronger finish and City into dropping more points.
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Post#450 » by AK47MVP » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:07 pm

Wisky4life wrote:A win is a win for United. Even how bad or boring we are playing.

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Yeah, nothing positive from that game besides 3 pts. Most boring game I ever saw.
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Post#451 » by Baphomet » Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:27 pm

Wisky4life wrote:A win is a win for United. Even how bad or boring we are playing.

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Post#452 » by El Turco » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm

Somehow Tottenham is 3 goal difference better than 3rd place Nottingham. It is a sign Nottingham will fall off but also odd to see a 15th place team with +9 GD.
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Post#453 » by KG Leonard » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:51 pm

El Turco wrote:Somehow Tottenham is 3 goal difference better than 3rd place Nottingham. It is a sign Nottingham will fall off but also odd to see a 15th place team with +9 GD.


Also proof of how useless scoring a lot of goals is if you can't defend against any of the other 19 teams in PL. The coach should be fired for his naive defensive gameplan.
Defence wins championship cliche is true in football too, specially when you go from challenging for top 4 to bottom 5.
Nottingham best winger/forward wouldn't even be top 5 in Tottenham in ability. Even if they fall off, they are doing miracles with the lack of options offensively when their star striker is Woods.
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Post#454 » by Baseline81 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:51 pm

Arsenal fans getting put through the ringer this week:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-fa-charge-michael-oliver-myles-lewis-skelly-red-card-b2689311.html

Arsenal have been charged with failing to control their players in the wake of Myles Lewis-Skelly's controversial sending-off during Saturday's Premier League game at Wolves.
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Post#455 » by The_Brecht » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:39 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Arsenal fans getting put through the ringer this week:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-fa-charge-michael-oliver-myles-lewis-skelly-red-card-b2689311.html

Arsenal have been charged with failing to control their players in the wake of Myles Lewis-Skelly's controversial sending-off during Saturday's Premier League game at Wolves.


Do other teams even get charged for those thing, because I see those thing weekly on every field.
Maybe they should look into the quality of their officials and hold them accountable if the **** up big time.

Also try to figure out why some of them clearly have some sort of bias. Some statistics are clear and obvious (pun intended).
Coote isn't the only one. There's other ones.
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Post#456 » by KG Leonard » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:17 am

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Baseline81 wrote:Arsenal fans getting put through the ringer this week:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-fa-charge-michael-oliver-myles-lewis-skelly-red-card-b2689311.html

Arsenal have been charged with failing to control their players in the wake of Myles Lewis-Skelly's controversial sending-off during Saturday's Premier League game at Wolves.


Do other teams even get charged for those thing, because I see those thing weekly on every field.
Maybe they should look into the quality of their officials and hold them accountable if the **** up big time.

Also try to figure out why some of them clearly have some sort of bias. Some statistics are clear and obvious (pun intended).
Coote isn't the only one. There's other ones.


Maybe because Arteta and his players are known for complaining about everything? Even my football podcast that was pro Arsenal compared to City is tired of all the crying. The boy who cried wolf?

There is probably a reason Arsenal is being used an example to punish for the rest of the PL.
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Post#457 » by Baphomet » Sat Feb 1, 2025 6:38 pm

Read on Twitter


I wonder why Spurs get so many injuries

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Post#458 » by KG Leonard » Sat Feb 1, 2025 10:12 pm

Similar thing happened to Klopp teams in recent years, they were so high intensity both attack and pressing high that injuries probably cost them a title last year or the years they were over 90 points.

Slot has the same team but they controlled Bournemouth to death with slow passing and killing the tempo when Bournemouth tried to speed up late first half and the last 20 minutes. Not surprising Liverpool didn't spend last 5 months losing everybody to injuries.
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Post#459 » by Baphomet » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:20 pm

Crazy that Arsenal have finally surpassed City and are still not likely to win the league this season.
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Post#460 » by The_Brecht » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:25 pm

We trashed them!
What a performance!
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