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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#461 » by Braggins » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:57 pm

(box stats = per 70 possessions / ranked by bpm after top 2)

Cooper Flagg ~ F ~ 6'9" 205
Duke (ACC) ~ Fr ~ 18.5 yrs
26.4 pts ~ 10.6 reb ~ 5.5 ast ~ 1.9 stl ~ 1.6 blk ~ 3.6 tov ~ 2.9 pf
54.8% 2pt (13.1 2pta) ~ 32.9% 3pt (5.0 3pta) ~ 81.1% ft (8.8 fta) ~ 59.3% ts
122.3 ORtg ~ 85.1 DRtg ~ +15.6 bpm (+8.4/+7.2) ~ 31.5% usg

Dylan Harper ~ G ~ 6'6" 215
Rutgers (B10) ~ Fr ~ 19.3 yrs
23.8 pts ~ 6.2 reb ~ 5.2 ast ~ 1.3 stl ~ 0.7 blk ~ 2.7 tov ~ 2.1 pf
57.4% 2pt (10.9 2pta) ~ 33.7% 3pt (6.2 3pta) ~ 70.8% ft (7.1 fta) ~ 58.2% ts
119.1 ORtg ~ 108.6 DRtg ~ +8.6 bpm (+7.1/+1.5) ~ 28.5% usg

VJ Edgecombe ~ SG ~ 6'5" 180
Baylor (B12) ~ Fr ~ 19.9 yrs
19.8 pts ~ 7.1 reb ~ 4.3 ast ~ 3.0 stl ~ 1.1 blk ~ 2.7 tov ~ 3.2 pf
47.1% 2pt (9.5 2pta) ~ 38.9% 3pt (6.3 3pta) ~ 77.3% ft (4.6 fta) ~ 55.2% ts
118.2 ORtg ~ 97.8 DRtg ~ +11.5 bpm (+7.0/+4.6) ~ 24.5% usg

Asa Newell ~ PF ~ 6'11" 220
Georgia (SEC) ~ Fr ~ 19.7 yrs
21.9 pts ~ 10.1 reb ~ 1.5 ast ~ 1.5 stl ~ 1.7 blk ~ 1.5 tov ~ 3.2 pf
63.3% 2pt (12.4 2pta) ~ 27.7% 3pt (3.2 3pta) ~ 73.2% ft (4.9 fta) ~ 61.2% ts
133.3 ORtg ~ 98.2 DRtg ~ +10.5 bpm (+7.9/+2.6) ~ 23.6% usg

Kasparas Jakucionis ~ SG ~ 6'6" 205
Illinois (B10) ~ Fr ~ 19.1 yrs
19.8 pts ~ 7.2 reb ~ 6.7 ast ~ 1.4 stl ~ 0.2 blk ~ 4.6 tov ~ 3.1 pf
59.4% 2pt (6.2 2pta) ~ 36.7% 3pt (6.4 3pta) ~ 86.3% ft (6.2 fta) ~ 63.6% ts
118.9 ORtg ~ 95.3 DRtg ~ +10.1 bpm (+5.6/+4.5) ~ 24.2% usg

Rasheer Fleming ~ F ~ 6'9" 220
Saint Joseph's (A10) ~ Jr ~ 20.9 yrs
20.4 pts ~ 11.8 reb ~ 1.8 ast ~ 2.1 stl ~ 2.0 blk ~ 2.2 tov ~ 3.4 pf
67.7% 2pt (7.9 2pta) ~ 40.0% 3pt (5.6 3pta) ~ 67.6% ft (4.4 fta) ~ 65.4% ts
124.2 ORtg ~ 93.0 DRtg ~ +9.1 bpm (+5.4/+3.7) ~ 22.3% usg

Thomas Sorber ~ C/PF ~ 6'10" 255
Georgetown (BEAST) ~ Fr ~ 19.5
18.9 pts ~ 11.8 reb ~ 3.4 ast ~ 1.9 stl ~ 2.9 blk ~ 3.2 tov ~ 3.2 pf
57.1% 2pt (11.4 2pta) ~ 18.8% 3pt (2.1 3pta) ~ 75.5% ft (6.2 fta) ~ 57.4% ts
114.8 ORtg ~ 89.9 DRtg ~ +8.5 bpm (+3.6/+4.8) ~ 23.9% usg

Derik Queen ~ C ~ 6'10" 246
Maryland (B10) ~ Fr ~ 20.5 yrs
21.1 pts ~ 11.6 reb ~ 2.9 ast ~ 1.7 stl ~ 1.4 blk ~ 3.2 tov ~ 2.9 pf
58.1% 2pt (13.4 2pta) ~ 9.1% 3pt (1.4 3pta) ~ 75.7% ft (6.8 fta) ~ 58.5% ts
115.7 ORtg ~ 89.6 DRtg ~ +8.2 bpm (+4.2/+4.0) ~ 26.2% usg

Labaron Philon ~ G ~ 6'4" 177
Alabama (SEC) ~ Fr ~ 19.6 yrs
17.2 pts ~ 5.6 reb ~ 5.6 ast ~ 1.8 stl ~ 0.5 blk ~ 2.5 tov ~ 2.5 pf
56.1% 2pt (8.7 2pta) ~ 27.9% 3pt (5.2 3pta) ~ 72.7% ft (4.2 fta) ~ 54.1% ts
118.3 ORtg ~ 105.2 DRtg ~ +8.1 bpm (+4.8/+3.4) ~ 22.3% usg

Tre Johnson ~ SG ~ 6'6" 190
Texas (SEC) ~ Fr ~ 19.3 yrs
24.1 pts ~ 3.4 reb ~ 2.7 ast ~ 1.1 stl ~ 0.6 blk ~ 2.0 tov ~ 2.4 pf
50.3% 2pt (10.6 2pta) ~ 37.3% 3pt (8.4 3pta) ~ 88.2% ft (4.6 fta) ~ 56.9% ts
116.1 ORtg ~ 103.9 DRtg ~ +8.0 bpm (+6.2/+1.8) ~ 29.0% usg

Egor Demin ~ PG ~ 6'9" 190
BYU (B12) ~ Fr ~ 19.3 yrs
16.3 pts ~ 6.0 reb ~ 8.6 ast ~ 2.2 stl ~ 0.8 blk ~ 3.9 tov ~ 2.0 pf
57.9% 2pt (6.5 2pta) ~ 28.9% 3pt (6.5 3pta) ~ 67.9% ft (4.6 fta) ~ 53.6% ts
111.9 ORtg ~ 97.8 DRtg ~ +7.4 bpm (+4.1/+3.2) ~ 23.3% usg

Ace Bailey ~ F ~ 6'10 200
Rutgers (B10) ~ Fr ~ 18.8 yrs
24.6 pts ~ 9.3 reb ~ 1.0 ast ~ 1.3 stl ~ 1.6 blk ~ 2.5 tov ~ 3.3 pf
51.2% 2pt (13.4 2pta) ~ 41.2% 3pt (6.1 3pta) ~ 67.5% ft (5.0 fta) ~ 56.3% ts
111.4 ORtg ~ 105.4 DRtg ~ +6.6 bpm (+5.6/+1.0) ~ 30.1% usg

Ian Jackson ~ G ~ 6'4" 190
North Carolina (ACC) ~ Fr ~ 20.3 yrs
20.8 pts ~ 4.9 reb ~ 1.3 ast ~ 0.8 stl ~ 0.3 blk ~ 1.5 tov ~ 2.3 pf
56.5% 2pt (8.8 2pta) ~ 38.1% 3pt (6.6 3pta) ~ 74.2% ft (4.5 fta) ~ 59.4% ts
117.2 ORtg ~ 109.2 DRtg ~ +6.5 bpm (+5.0/+1.5) ~ 24.1% usg

Jeremiah Fears ~ G ~ 6'4" 182
Oklahoma (SEC) ~ Fr ~ 18.7 yrs
22.5 pts ~ 5.5 reb ~ 6.0 ast ~ 2.5 stl ~ 0.1 blk ~ 5.0 tov ~ 2.5 pf
54.3% 2pt (10.7 2pta) ~ 27.1% 3pt (5.0 3pta) ~ 82.9% ft (8.3 fta) ~ 57.5% ts
108.4 ORtg ~ 102.6 DRtg ~ +4.9 bpm (+3.5/+1.4) ~ 31.3% usg

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#462 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:29 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Not sure what's going on with Harper, but he's been in a slump lately. Bailey might pass him if he continues to be their best player.


Cmon Harper snap out of it!


No don't, fall like Demin, let's say 8th, just to be safe.

He's not falling that far, but he's in danger of falling to #3.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#463 » by Snidely FC » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:54 pm

Harper recovering from a sprained ankle is why he came off the bench played less than 15 mins vs MSU
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#464 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:55 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Harper recovering from a sprained ankle is why he came off the bench played less than 15 mins vs MSU

Guy can't catch a break he was sick now he's dealing with a ankle injury.

Sucks Rutgers won't even make the tournament because that team is trash outside of Harper and Bailey.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#465 » by GiggitySmalls » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:09 am

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GiggitySmalls wrote:Hes my guy if we pick 3 through 7. Which is likely. I'd take him over Bailey. More dimensions to his game while simultaneously fitting a gaping hole that we have on our team.

Don't get me wrong Edgecomb is worthy as a top 5 pick but we seem to be collecting 6'5 defensive specialist average 3 pt shooting guards so I am just curious about what gaping hole you see Edgecomb fits?
The potential to be the 2-way long-term starter that can play above mediocre? He has very high potential. Everyone else is just scraps.

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#466 » by Braggins » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:05 am

Yeah, with Edgecombe the thinking is that a reasonable outcome for him could be at least a high level starter version of someone like Martin/Okogie, whereas the latter two are more bench level rotation talents.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#467 » by Bassman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:30 pm

Braggins wrote:Yeah, with Edgecombe the thinking is that a reasonable outcome for him could be at least a high level starter version of someone like Martin/Okogie, whereas the latter two are more bench level rotation talents.


Would be happy to get VJ anywhere from 3 thru 5. Heck, happy to get a top 5 pick in this draft. Ecstatic to get #1 of course.

Gotta believe the draft starts with Flagg, and some mix of Harper, VJ, Bailey and Jaku after.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#468 » by SWedd523 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:39 pm

Can VJ reliably beat guys off the dribble?

I'm super anti any perimeter player who can't get buckets 1-on-1
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#469 » by GiggitySmalls » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:12 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Can VJ reliably beat guys off the dribble?

I'm super anti any perimeter player who can't get buckets 1-on-1
I mean dude gets downhill to the basket pretty well.

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Post#470 » by wilson115 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:20 am

He probably isn't getting mocked in the top 5 for his scoring, but he's dangerous enough teams can't hide their best scorer on him like they can against a more limited 3-and-D type, and those guys don't force teams to pack the paint and leave guys open when they get the ball. If he starts to hit threes consistently, look out.

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Post#471 » by wilson115 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:33 am

At the other end of the spectrum, guys who absolutely get buckets and try hard but aren't stellar on defense. For my money, I'm betting on the elite defender, but I get arguing for the anti-Edgecombes.

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#472 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:16 pm

If not for Scoot, LaMelo's ankles are a vote of confidence for Dylan Harper.

Harper could be in short order the NBA's top PG2 at a very young age. If LaMelo's ankles act up, slide Harper into starting PG and Hornets can survive an injury to their best player. Everything hinges on LaMelo's stamina.

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Post#473 » by Snidely FC » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:35 am

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#474 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:54 am

Valdez Edgecombe Jr. is the guy. Let’s not overthink this one.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#475 » by GiggitySmalls » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:59 am

EmpireFalls wrote:Valdez Edgecombe Jr. is the guy. Let’s not overthink this one.
I've been saying that for a month now atleast. He's the guy if we don't pick 1 or 2. Another great game and more to come. It's going to become clear to everyone else really soon if it already isnt.

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#476 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:51 am

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SWedd523 wrote:Can VJ reliably beat guys off the dribble?

I'm super anti any perimeter player who can't get buckets 1-on-1
I mean dude gets downhill to the basket pretty well.

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Doesn't really answer my question
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Post#477 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:12 am

My best guess for how the first few picks play out at this point would be Flagg goes #1 for sure, then likely Dylan Harper at #2, then it seems like Bailey, Kasparas, and Edgecombe, currently have the best cases for #3.

Bailey seems the riskiest to me, but NBA teams really value traits at the top of the draft and his combination of traits and young age is going to be hard for NBA front offices to pass on (#2 would not be a surprise for him). Kasparas seems like the safest and Edgecombe seems like a good combination of solid floor with good upside. I'm still pretty risk averse when it comes to this team, so I'd maybe lean a bit away from Bailey, but I think it would be hard not to be excited about any of those three if they are picking 3-5.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#478 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:25 am

SWedd523 wrote:
GiggitySmalls wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:Can VJ reliably beat guys off the dribble?

I'm super anti any perimeter player who can't get buckets 1-on-1
I mean dude gets downhill to the basket pretty well.

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Doesn't really answer my question

Hes shooting about 47% from 2pt, which isn't good. His handle looked like a weakness to me that was limiting his driving in the little bit of game action I caught the other day. Also seems like hes struggled a bit finishing when he isn't able to dunk, but part of that could be crappy college spacing. Hes a legit freak athletically though and he doesn't seem to have many other weaknesses if he continues to shoot well from the outside (up to about 39% from 3pt).
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Post#479 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:38 pm

Yall sleeping on Bailey. That kid is already a bucket and he can't really pass or dribble. He's only 18 if this kid can improve even a little bit with that handle he's gonna be a problem. He also plays pretty good defense.

Bailey is still that clear #3 guy imo
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Post#480 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:47 am

Bailey 37 points this kid is legit.

He's probably in that #2 spot now. So much potential!

A 6'10 shot creator is gonna have teams salivating. His defense gets overlooked because of his scoring ability. This is possibly a 2 way wing we are looking at.

I'm getting Miller vibes but he has more in his bag due to his post game and mid range shooting.

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