2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

[MrMiyagi]

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Let’s go Ishbia, trade whatever you need to get butler here.

[BobbieL]

Now the Heat fans on their fourm want KD for Butler. LOL

I almost responded

The suns wouldn’t want Durant for Butler

Maybe ishbia is coming to his senses. Truly the West has gotten tougher in the last three days

Suns were already not in a good spot

[SunsRback4Good]

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Let’s go Ishbia, trade whatever you need to get butler here.

How dare you? 97% of Suns fans don’t want Jimmy here. Once again, how dare you?

[Saberestar]

Now the Heat fans on their fourm want KD for Butler. LOL

[Djedefre]

Nah, he's going to beat this dead horse of a project for a wee bit more and add a twist of desperation along the way. It's going to be hilariously idiotic. As Redman would say I can't wait

[sunsbg]

If Dunn was included it'd be a done deal by now. Don't think both FOs are that stupid - our to offer, Heat to reject it. The second Butler signs his extension he becomes as bad of a contract as Beal, if not worse. Beal + 1st is all we should offer.

I'll be a little surprised if we get Butler and Dunn isn't outgoing somewhere. I don't want to trade Dunn, but as much as they seem to want Butler, they won't walk away because of Dunn. Though I don't know if people REALLY don't want Beal, if Dunn is enough to convince anyone. I love Dunn and he's great, but I don't think he has like some super trade value or anything.

My Euroleague team is a true contender and the players are likeable so no prob if that happens.

[BobbieL]

Now the Heat fans on their fourm want KD for Butler. LOL

Fischer tweeted the Suns are listening on Durant and KD has been notified his name is in talks

If kd doesn’t play against OKC…..

[Saberestar]

Gambo

Yes the Warriors have called on KD, they have been aggressive to see if they could pry him away. That is true. Several teams have called the Suns on KD but Phoenix is still focused on a Butler/Beal deal OR other smaller deals if they Miami won't budge on Jimmy.

[49erhokie827]

Gambo

Yes the Warriors have called on KD, they have been aggressive to see if they could pry him away. That is true. Several teams have called the Suns on KD but Phoenix is still focused on a Butler/Beal deal OR other smaller deals if they Miami won't budge on Jimmy.

Lets go Jimmy, if not I'm cool with the smaller deals if it brings in some athleticism. Myabe like a Obi Toppin.

[Saberestar]

Now the Heat fans on their fourm want KD for Butler. LOL

Fischer tweeted the Suns are listening on Durant and KD has been notified his name is in talks

If kd doesn’t play against OKC…..

Teams are gonna call us asking for KD and Book always, but we are all in. Not happening.

[SkyBill40]

On the Heat board someone posted a tweet that says Suns are taking trade calls on Durant. It's either BS or maybe KD asked out.

Looks like its from Marc Stein and Jake Fischer

ttps://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1886464536972066817

If this happens - dreams can come true....

Taking calls and making them are vastly different in nature. I'm willing to bet Ishbia is merely listening rather than shopping him around. Regardless, Durant isn't going anywhere as trading him would be admitting that the move to acquire him in the first place was a colossal failure. Dude's ego isn't writing that check.

[bwgood77]

If Dunn was included it'd be a done deal by now. Don't think both FOs are that stupid - our to offer, Heat to reject it. The second Butler signs his extension he becomes as bad of a contract as Beal, if not worse. Beal + 1st is all we should offer.

I'll be a little surprised if we get Butler and Dunn isn't outgoing somewhere. I don't want to trade Dunn, but as much as they seem to want Butler, they won't walk away because of Dunn. Though I don't know if people REALLY don't want Beal, if Dunn is enough to convince anyone. I love Dunn and he's great, but I don't think he has like some super trade value or anything.

My Euroleague team is a true contender and the players are likeable so no prob if that happens.

It's weird because there are some exciting NBA teams and then all these crazy trades that might make it more interesting, but then our team just gets older and worse and the future is more bleak.

Like, if we get Jimmy, the "I want to watch a Suns game right now" part of me (which is shrinking fast), will be more excited to watch a game with Jimmy. But my brain tells me it is very dumb. It said that about the KD trade right when it happened and it just continues to snowball and get even worse. And the worst part is, you can't get excited to tank either because we don't own our own picks. So we are in the worst of both worlds.

I feel like Ishbia is in a full blown long manic episode and needs an intervention. And if you know bipolar people, when they are in a full blown manic episode, they go out and rack of charges on credit cards partying or buying stuff or investing in some business scam and before they know it they are deep in debt and stuck for years and spiraling into a depression.

[49erhokie827]

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If on the 1% chance they don’t get butler hopefully the smaller deals are to find some athleticism like a Obi Toppin

[Slim Charless]

On the Heat board someone posted a tweet that says Suns are taking trade calls on Durant. It's either BS or maybe KD asked out.

Looks like its from Marc Stein and Jake Fischer

ttps://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1886464536972066817

If this happens - dreams can come true....

Taking calls and making them are vastly different in nature. I'm willing to bet Ishbia is merely listening rather than shopping him around. Regardless, Durant isn't going anywhere as trading him would be admitting that the move to acquire him in the first place was a colossal failure. Dude's ego isn't writing that check.

Any KD trade would happen in the summer. Booker too

[SkyBill40]

Looks like its from Marc Stein and Jake Fischer

ttps://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1886464536972066817

If this happens - dreams can come true....

Taking calls and making them are vastly different in nature. I'm willing to bet Ishbia is merely listening rather than shopping him around. Regardless, Durant isn't going anywhere as trading him would be admitting that the move to acquire him in the first place was a colossal failure. Dude's ego isn't writing that check.

Any KD trade would happen in the summer. Booker too

Oh, I don't doubt that.

[BobbieL]

Fischer tweeted the Suns are listening on Durant and KD has been notified his name is in talks

If kd doesn’t play against OKC…..

Teams are gonna call us asking for KD and Book always, but we are all in. Not happening.

Gambo mentioned it too

Gambo also mentioned early they might make a move that helps them "short term and in the future"

I just don't see how trading 3 FRPs for Butler helps your future. But trading Durant could help this year and the future

[twix2500]

In order for the Suns to get Beal to waive his no trade clause the owner has to get involved, and do a personal outside of the basketball favor.

[mkot]

Now the Heat fans on their fourm want KD for Butler. LOL

I almost responded

The suns wouldn’t want Durant for Butler

Maybe ishbia is coming to his senses. Truly the West has gotten tougher in the last three days

Suns were already not in a good spot

I think the Spurs got better, but others are sus

Kings got a versatile and explosive scorer in LaVine but if you look at their potential starting 5 of Monk/LaVine/DeRozan/Murray/Sabonis that's just too many bad defenders, Murray is their best defender there but he is playing out of position. They just gonna trying to outscore op every game (just like us haha)

Lakers already has the worse perimeter defense in the league and just got even worse without their more playable perimeter defender in Max Christie. With LeBron in his 40 this team is just weird right now.

Mavs got interesting with AD, but that roster around AD was originally being built around Luka. Kyrie is a bucket but he is not a playmaker and they have nobody else on that roster to replace Luka's elite playmaking to compliment Kyrie's best skill - tough shotmaking. Tough shotmaking is a ceiling raiser, but when it's your floor your offense will struggle 80% of the time (well just like us hahhaha). Anyway, Kyrie just ain't it, we saw him turned into pumpkin last season playoffs, he was the reason they lost the Finals, not Luka.

Denver is, in my opinion, clearly the team behind OKC but their defense is up and down. They have not been healthy and just lost Peyton Watson for at least 4 weeks. Westbrook might be out for a little bit too.

The Clippers are a scary team but relying on 35 years old Harden and 33 Kawhi sounds more scary to me. Houston and Memphis are young and inexperience so I can see why the Suns think they have a chance this year.

Tier 1: OKC
Tier 2: Denver, Clippers, Houston, Mavs
Tier 3: Memphis, Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Kings

In this order. I'd say we have like 1% chance

[twix2500]

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[SunsRback4Good]

Now the Heat fans on their fourm want KD for Butler. LOL

I almost responded

The suns wouldn’t want Durant for Butler

Maybe ishbia is coming to his senses. Truly the West has gotten tougher in the last three days

Suns were already not in a good spot

I think the Spurs got better, but others are sus

Kings got a versatile and explosive scorer in LaVine but if you look at their potential starting 5 of Monk/LaVine/DeRozan/Murray/Sabonis that's just too many bad defenders, Murray is their best defender there but he is playing out of position. They just gonna trying to outscore op every game (just like us haha)

Lakers already has the worse perimeter defense in the league and just got even worse without their more playable perimeter defender in Max Christie. With LeBron in his 40 this team is just weird right now.

Mavs got interesting with AD, but that roster around AD was originally being built around Luka. Kyrie is a bucket but he is not a playmaker and they have nobody else on that roster to replace Luka's elite playmaking to compliment Kyrie's best skill - tough shotmaking. Tough shotmaking is a ceiling raiser, but when it's your floor your offense will struggle 80% of the time (well just like us hahhaha). Anyway, Kyrie just ain't it, we saw him turned into pumpkin last season playoffs, he was the reason they lost the Finals, not Luka.

Denver is, in my opinion, clearly the team behind OKC but their defense is up and down. They have not been healthy and just lost Peyton Watson for at least 4 weeks. Westbrook might be out for a little bit too.

The Clippers are a scary team but relying on 35 years old Harden and 33 Kawhi sounds more scary to me. Houston and Memphis are young and inexperience so I can see why the Suns think they have a chance this year.

Tier 1: OKC
Tier 2: Denver, Clippers, Houston, Mavs
Tier 3: Memphis, Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Kings

In this order. I'd say we have like 1% chance